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African Union outnumbered and outgunned in Darfur

mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
edited October 2007 in A Moving Train
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071002/wl_nm/sudan_darfur_dc
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    is this an example of the UN being completely useless when it comes to "peacekeepers"
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    is this an example of the UN being completely useless when it comes to "peacekeepers"

    Another example of China's vetoing power.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    At this point i think we should just concentrate on NATO. fuck the U.N. with China and Russia constantly at odds with the west, the U.N. is broken and can't be fixed. Its become the League of Nations all over again.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    The US should invade, occupy, and start fucking with another country immediately. That will fix it...duhhh

    Iran for example.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    i think we should all agree to issue a statement of concern
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    The US should invade, occupy, and start fucking with another country immediately. That will fix it...duhhh

    Iran for example.

    last I checked this is a Darfur thread. and US military action would do that country a whole lot of good.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    last I checked this is a Darfur thread. and US military action would do that country a whole lot of good.


    go piss...chum

    I bet
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    MrSmith wrote:
    At this point i think we should just concentrate on NATO. fuck the U.N. with China and Russia constantly at odds with the west, the U.N. is broken and can't be fixed. Its become the League of Nations all over again.


    The UN can be fixed. Simply do away with the veto power of the permanent members.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    is this an example of the UN being completely useless when it comes to "peacekeepers"


    It only really works when they are cleaning up another mess left by the great Satan.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    even flow? wrote:
    It only really works when they are cleaning up another mess left by the great Satan.

    how were the morning Death to America chants? louder and prouder this time?
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    even flow? wrote:
    It only really works when they are cleaning up another mess left by the great Satan.
    Which Great Satan???? The U.S.??? Soviet Union??? The British Empire??? The New York Yankees???? The Sudan was a British sphere of influence...in fact, I own a nice framed print of a young Winston Churchill riding into battle in The Sudan in 1898..the U.S. fucked up Ethiopia (till 1977), Somalia (after 1977), Nigeria, Liberia, and whatever you feel like calling the Congo/Zaire. :D
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    how were the morning Death to America chants? louder and prouder this time?


    But of course!
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    mammasan wrote:
    The UN can be fixed. Simply do away with the veto power of the permanent members.


    ehh, i'm not a big fan of the New World Order taking over. The only reason i tolerate the UN is because the US could say "fuck you guys, I'm doing it this way" (for better or worse). Without the veto, the UN could be free to dictate policy in America, and i am NOT down with that.

    I think the UN should be kept around to handle various technical issues and treaties, but as peacekeepers its almost entirely worthless.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    MrSmith wrote:
    ehh, i'm not a big fan of the New World Order taking over. The only reason i tolerate the UN is because the US could say "fuck you guys, I'm doing it this way" (for better or worse). Without the veto, the UN could be free to dictate policy in America, and i am NOT down with that.

    I think the UN should be kept around to handle various technical issues and treaties, but as peacekeepers its almost entirely worthless.

    So can China which is why we have the atrocities in Darfur and Burma. Try looking beyond the US. We are not the only country that matters.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    mammasan wrote:
    So can China which is why we have the atrocities in Darfur and Burma. Try looking beyond the US. We are not the only country that matters.

    hey i dont have the answers i'm just saying i dont want to cede any control of US policy to a giant bureaucratic joke.

    I think with NATO we could cut through most of the bullshit and still maintain control of our own policy.

    and sorry, 99% of my friends and family live in the US, so US interests are rightly more important to me (and dont come back saying that i think we should brutally enslave the rest of the world for US interests. i said MORE important, not ALL important.)
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    MrSmith wrote:
    hey i dont have the answers i'm just saying i dont want to cede any control of US policy to a giant bureaucratic joke.

    That can't happen because we already ceded control of US policy to corporations and special interest groups.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
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