Gang-Rape Cover-Up by US, Halliborton/KBR

mammasan
mammasan Posts: 5,656
edited December 2007 in A Moving Train
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=3977702&page=1
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    we often do not want to see the worst in people but it is in the worst that allows us to stop these things from happening again ...
  • Bwalker545
    Bwalker545 Posts: 162
    Jones told ABCNews.com that an examination by Army doctors showed she had been raped "both vaginally and anally," but that the rape kit disappeared after it was handed over to KBR security officers.
    Why the hell was the kit given to them!?!
    "Almost unconsciously he traced with his finger in the dust on the table: 2+2=5" 1984
  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    Again, looks like rape victims rights are not only abused in Saudi Arabia!
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    NoK wrote:
    Again, looks like rape victims rights are not only abused in Saudi Arabia!

    Well this is what happens when you give contractors carte blanche to do as they please without any type of oversight. The article mentions that even if they had all the evidence in the world to implicate the attackers there is nothing the government could do because these contractors operate in a legal limbo where neither Iraq nor the US has jurisdiction.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    mammasan wrote:
    Well this is what happens when you give contractors carte blanche to do as they please without any type of oversight. The article mentions that even if they had all the evidence in the world to implicate the attackers there is nothing the government could do because these contractors operate in a legal limbo where neither Iraq nor the US has jurisdiction.


    But yet victims of 911 can somehow sue the Bin-man. :rolleyes: One f'd up country down there!
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    even flow? wrote:
    But yet victims of 911 can somehow sue the Bin-man. :rolleyes: One f'd up country down there!

    Tell me about it.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Derrick
    Derrick Posts: 475
    Same shit, different pile. Americans are bad and continue to vote for people that allow them to be bad.

    You can shoot your lawyer friend in the face.
    You can strip PoWs naked and take pictures of them in huge piles of humans.
    You can occupy a foreign country if it has a natural resource you desire.

    If your education system is bad, you can convince the masses to vote for the sweetest-talking idiot.
  • scot88
    scot88 Posts: 217
    Derrick wrote:
    Americans are bad and continue to vote for people that allow them to be bad.


    and you, sir, can go kindly fuck yourself.


    eh?
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Derrick wrote:
    Same shit, different pile. Americans are bad and continue to vote for people that allow them to be bad.

    You can shoot your lawyer friend in the face.
    You can strip PoWs naked and take pictures of them in huge piles of humans.
    You can occupy a foreign country if it has a natural resource you desire.

    If your education system is bad, you can convince the masses to vote for the sweetest-talking idiot.

    Americans are not bad people. We may not have the best sense when picking our elected officials but we are not some evil breed of people.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    mammasan wrote:
    Americans are not bad people. We may not have the best sense when picking our elected officials but we are not some evil breed of people.

    By the words that he used, you would think we were French or something.
  • Derrick
    Derrick Posts: 475
    Get offended all you want...I'm just regurgitating what I see in your news.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    floyd1975 wrote:
    By the words that he used, you would think we were French or something.

    I know. At least he didn't call us Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Derrick wrote:
    Get offended all you want...I'm just regurgitating what I see in your news.

    So you truely believe that in general Americans are bad people.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Derrick
    Derrick Posts: 475
    No, I'm making a commentary on the article posted and million other articles like it. Some of the greatest people who've walked this earth are American.

    In general, you've (collectively, not individually) have been duped and you are paying for it:

    - A conservative government that spends way too much
    - State controlled media (YES YOU DO! Not like the Commie russians, but if you believe your biggest media outlets are not government influenced, you're nuts)
    - A war where you are the bully, not the victim.

    Saying Americans are bad in general is like saying all Germans of the early 20th century were bad....it's not true but the propaganda would have you believe otherwise. Now we just get a different sort of propaganda: mass media. And the message is loud and clear...America is messed up. Americans are bad.

    Step outside of your daily living situation for a second...forget about all the wonderful things in your daily life, and read the newspaper at face value. Read the news online at face value. Watch TV at face value. The message is extremely clear: America is messed up. Americans are bad. I'm seriously just regurgitating. I'm sure the percentage of Canadians that are actually "bad" is equal to the percentage of Americans that are "bad." It's just that your scale is bigger, and your media likes to sell drama instead of painting a more accurate picture.

    EDIT: spellcheck is good
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Derrick wrote:
    Americans are bad

    We are very bad ASS tyvm
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    what a sad disturbing story.
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Derrick wrote:
    State controlled media (YES YOU DO! Not like the Commie russians, but if you believe your biggest media outlets are not government influenced, you're nuts)

    Nah, our media is corporate controlled...same as the government. It's not state-controlled, it's just controlled by the same people who control the state: rich investors.
  • Derrick
    Derrick Posts: 475
    And I do just want to verify my comment about your poor education system. There are stats out for the 2000 and 2004 elections. I'll google them but I think I've posted them here before, a couple years ago. Basically the red states were in the bottom 25-30 states according to average IQ. The blue states were in the top 20-25 when ranked by IQ.

    That speaks volumes about the world's largest superpower.
  • Derrick
    Derrick Posts: 475
    Saturnal wrote:
    Nah, our media is corporate controlled...same as the government. It's not state-controlled, it's just controlled by the same people who control the state: rich investors.

    Who have a vested interest in certain politicians! the STATE!

    That's right, who do you think makes the biggest campaign donations?
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Derrick wrote:
    No, I'm making a commentary on the article posted and million other articles like it. Some of the greatest people who've walked this earth are American.

    In general, you've (collectively, not individually) have been duped and you are paying for it:

    - A conservative government that spends way too much
    - State controlled media (YES YOU DO! Not like the Commie russians, but if you believe your biggest media outlets are not government influenced, you're nuts)
    - A war where you are the bully, not the victim.

    Saying Americans are bad in general is like saying all Germans of the early 20th century were bad....it's not true but the propaganda would have you believe otherwise. Now we just get a different sort of propaganda: mass media. And the message is loud and clear...America is messed up. Americans are bad.

    Step outside of your daily living situation for a second...forget about all the wonderful things in your daily life, and read the newspaper at face value. Read the news online at face value. Watch TV at face value. The message is extremely clear: America is messed up. Americans are bad. I'm seriously just regurgitating. I'm sure the percentage of Canadians that are actually "bad" is equal to the percentage of Americans that are "bad." It's just that your scale is bigger, and your media likes to sell drama instead of painting a more accurate picture.

    EDIT: spellcheck is good

    I agree with that our country is in trouble. That our government is the worst it has ever been. I also believe that Americans have been dupped by our mass media. That our government has too much influence over what the news is. Our politicians and our journalists have failed us and we stood by and allowed it to happen. I also believe that Americans are slowly starting to realize this. That there is a steady building movement of concerned Americans who want to reign in the government. Who want to wrestle control awat from corporations and special interest groups. Your first post just came across the wrong way. It was too vague and left too much to interpretation. Also there is no spell check function on this board.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul

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