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  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    I'm sorry, but if you get your underwear in a bunch over the height at which flags are flying, you are probably the type that gets offended way too easily, so there's probably no pleasing you and you probably shouldn't be taken seriously.
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Milhouse VanHouten wrote:
    I'm sorry, but if you get your underwear in a bunch over the height at which flags are flying, you are probably the type that gets offended way too easily, so there's probably no pleasing you and you probably shouldn't be taken seriously.

    Nah, hailhail is a pretty bright guy. I can see where he is coming from, even if I don't entirely agree.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    mammasan wrote:
    I attended a town hall meeting last night in the town I used to live in, my cousin still lives in the town and I was with him prior to going out for dinner. The town has a very diverse population, a mix of Irish, Scottish, Spanish, Portugese, and several South American nationalities the majority of which is Brazilian. A resident of the town addressed the council and all in attendance about the multitude of non-US flags being flown at people's homes due to the World Cup. They wanted the town to demand that anyone flying a flag that was not that of the US should remove it immediatly because it was an insult to this country especially around the Independence Day holiday. Other town residents where in agreement. One resident stated that they should all go back to their country and fly their flag there and stop disgracing this country. Other residents expressed that this was simply people supporting their teams during the World Cup, just like if someone has a Yankees or Jets flag outside of their home in show of support. What is your take on this?


    isn't this supposed to be a free country?
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    farfromglorified wrote:
    And what right is linked to that responsibility?
    Never said there was any type of direct correlation between any one right and any one responsibility.
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  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Nah, hailhail is a pretty bright guy. I can see where he is coming from, even if I don't entirely agree.

    I wasn't thinking of him, I was thinking of the people that brought up the issue at the meeting mammasan attended. Telling people to "go back to their own country" simply because they fly the flag of their native country is a really backwards-assed and ignorant thing to do.
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    hailhailkc wrote:
    Uh, no. I'm serious. It's disrespectful to fly any flag higher than the U.S. flag within our borders. In fact, it's a law.

    I wouldn't expect an American in Brazil to fly the U.S. flag higher than the Brazilian flag if they were watching the World Cup in Brazil and wanted to root for the U.S. That would be disrespectful too imho.

    when I respect what this country does around the world then maybe I would worry about flyinga silly piece of cloth to represent it. aren't you supposed to actually have a reason to respect and support something? this is the place I happen to live, respect has to be earned. that being said I do still believe this country has a lot of potential to be great and something that could be deserving of admiration...but a flag shouldn't have to be flown because of potential.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Milhouse VanHouten wrote:
    I wasn't thinking of him, I was thinking of the people that brought up the issue at the meeting mammasan attended. Telling people to "go back to their own country" simply because they fly the flag of their native country is a really backwards-assed and ignorant thing to do.


    describes the mentality of the red states entirely....
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I personally love seeing all the different flags cheering on the world cup team. I don't have a probem at all.
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  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    Commy wrote:
    describes the mentality of the red states entirely....

    Yeah, but doesn't mammasan live in Jersey?

    It's like that in large parts of Illinois, too.
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I personally love seeing all the different flags cheering on the world cup team. I don't have a probem at all.

    I do too

    makes them seems less like a team jersey thing and more of a 'we can all come together and enjoy this' type thing.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    I am curious about how people in other nations would react if someone in one of these places flew an American flag ...

    Anyhow, I agree with Commy's point about freedom. If it isn't endangering others or society at large, what's the problem?
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    when I respect what this country does around the world then maybe I would worry about flyinga silly piece of cloth to represent it. aren't you supposed to actually have a reason to respect and support something? this is the place I happen to live, respect has to be earned. that being said I do still believe this country has a lot of potential to be great and something that could be deserving of admiration...but a flag shouldn't have to be flown because of potential.
    Amen to that. I've said it before but I'll say it again....I'm much more likely to be burning an American flag than I am to fly one. No plans to burn it but you get the point.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    mammasan wrote:
    I don't get this whole you have to fly this certain flag over the other. Who cares it's a flag and just because you have them in a certain order really should equate to lack of respect.
    Of course it's a symbolic display of disrespect. It's a pretty universally recognized symbol. I absolutely agree that it should not be illegal. "Freedom of speech" wouldn't mean much if it precluded expressing disrespect and disapproval.

    I'm just glad I don't live in your cousin's town, since it would have cost me an awful lot of money. I'd have gone on a flag buying binge after last night's meeting, and by now my front yard would look like the United Nations.
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  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    hippiemom wrote:
    Of course it's a symbolic display of disrespect. It's a pretty universally recognized symbol. I absolutely agree that it should not be illegal. "Freedom of speech" wouldn't mean much if it precluded expressing disrespect and disapproval.

    I'm just glad I don't live in your cousin's town, since it would have cost me an awful lot of money. I'd have gone on a flag buying binge after last night's meeting, and by now my front yard would look like the United Nations.
    We need more hippiemoms like you. I agree that it's a symbolic display of respect....and one that we should always have the right to display.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    hippiemom wrote:
    Of course it's a symbolic display of disrespect. It's a pretty universally recognized symbol. I absolutely agree that it should not be illegal. "Freedom of speech" wouldn't mean much if it precluded expressing disrespect and disapproval.

    I'm just glad I don't live in your cousin's town, since it would have cost me an awful lot of money. I'd have gone on a flag buying binge after last night's meeting, and by now my front yard would look like the United Nations.


    That's what I said and trust me if I still did live in this town I would have a huge ass Cuban flag outside my home right now and a poster of Fidel and El Che on my door.

    I also kind of understand about the flag order, but honestly the people who do that probably have no intention of disrespect.
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    I'm wondering why anyone would bring up such an insigificant thought at a town meeting which apparently took place in the most bankrupt state in the union. Albany's Medicaid policy is out of control forcing counties to tax private citizens to death while driving out private business so government employees can retire at 55 after a life of never having had to do a day of real work in their life.
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    And I try to make this kind and clear
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    And desire and love and empty things
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  • Laz
    Laz Posts: 118
    What about Confederate flags?
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    hippiemom wrote:
    now my front yard would look like the United Nations.

    that's awesome! what you should do now is threaten any neighbors that have given you problems...say some assclown walking through your garden, or some dope letting his dog do his thing on your lawn...and when they ignore your wishes....threaten them again!
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • BetterRadio
    BetterRadio Posts: 189
    Bullshit american fuck.
    They're gonna tell you where to walk
    When to smile and just what to say
    They say have your own fun...

    Need vinyl, doggs.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Laz wrote:
    What about Confederate flags?

    I don't believe they have a soccer team.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V

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