Repeal the Patriot Act if Barack Obama becomes our next president?
VINNY GOOMBA
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This poll is an attempt to find out people's feeling about the Patriot Act and its relevance if Senator Obama is elected our next president. I'd like to know everyone's opinion.
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Should the Patriot Act be repealed?
The poll options were supposed to be:
1) NO - It is a necessary law to protect us from another terrorist attack.
2) YES - I would trust this additional power to John McCain, but not to Barack Obama
3) YES - It is an unconstitutional violation of our civil liberties and our right to privacy.
4) I don't Care.
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3. repeal the patriot act.....
and remove corporate influence in our political vote.
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And no, Obama won't be able to repeal it....or pull troops from Iraq.....or lower taxs....
Just my two cents....not worth much.
If it's a poll, why is there not an option that is the converse of #2?
I think it should be adjusted, obviously. There are some things in there that were good, but it seems like they passed the act pretty quickly without really thinking about what they were doing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy09UpI60F8
These folks will be policing the streets. Part of Obama's 'Truth Squad'.
There is no converse to #2, because the original question asks how would you feel about the Patriot Act if Barack was president.
Gotcha, thanks.
Almost relevent.
If Obama could repeal the Patriot act I think he should. Do I think he will? no....
I'm not calling everyone who is in favor of the Patriot Act a redneck, either. I've just found that the more I talk to people, the more I find this to be true for this particular group of people.
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I agree. I doubt he will do anything about it. However, I'm starting to think that there may be a huge spike in the numbers of people against this law if Obama gets elected. I'm talking about the gun-toting, flag-waving, rock-the-cross-on-my-sleeve (even though I refuse to practice any of the fundamental beliefs of Christianity, such as loving thy neighbor or turning the other cheek) rednecks. Yes, these people may actually hate this law if it is in the hands of anybody other than the most supreme turrrrrrurrist fighting cowboy, George W., or some other "Maverick."
Anybody else feel that this group of people may actually be the key to overturning that law?
Politically, this would be an outstanding move (not to mention the right move).
But I agree with the predominance of this thread that if elected (and as my sig has said since McCain's nomination, I really doubt he will), he won't do it. He'll just leave well enough alone.
Anybody else feel that this group of people may actually be the key to overturning that law?
I guess it depends on how deep the fear of Obama being a terrorist and lukewarm on America are. If it's just a bunch of lame rhetoric being used to try to frighten people into voting for McCain, then even if Obama wins, they'll go back to thinking that the Patriot Act is key to protecting us from terror. But if the things I am hearing really are legit fear that Obama's gonna get into office and work to destroy America, then yeah, they may say "I don't want that Muslim terrorist invading my privacy." (though they trusted Bush to do it).
My gut says "no." I don't see the PA believers doing a 180 because of Obama.
It's all moot, as McCain's gonna win.
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Actually, I'd be really curious about his excuse.
And Obama will not repeal the act. He voted for its extension. He's part of the problem.
You really think so? Legally?
I have almost wavered of late, but I think we're going to learn about race and the Dems on Nov 4. We'll see.
That's an interesting look at it. Although I'm afraid the type of people you speak of would not be that informed to be worried about it. Unless Rush or Hannity tells them to be.
It definitely needs to be amended though.
Exactly-- without a doubt, a few of these blowhards will start singing a different tune under an Obama presidency, and all of their listeners will follow. Nobody pays attention to when laws are passed, and who voted for them anyway-- it's just whoever screams the loudest, and smears their opponents the hardest.
So, even in 2001, we were talking about a few thousand people that really wanted to destroy us, at most (however, continual poor decisions in our foreign policy may have caused that number to grow)... Why create blanket legislation that allows our government to spy on MILLIONS? If you have to worry about MILLIONS of citizens taking you down, it's time to re-evaluate how you look at the world, and how you operate.
What real advantage has the Patriot Act given us over fighting terrorists? I would say none. With a legal search warrant, law enforcement can do just about everything that the Patriot Act allows them to do without needing a warrant. Being able to search more people at a time still costs time, money, and is aggravating for all parties involved. It is essentially fruitless well over 99% of the time, and again, costs all of us money.
The founders wanted to protect us from unreasonable search and seizure, and they made it their FOURTH BIGGEST PRIORITY. #4 in the Bill of Rights! This isn't the 27th amendment here, this is a fundamental right that belongs to us as citizens of this country.
So what does it do that is actually advantageous? Allow some judges to sleep late a few days of the week?
Maybe I'm missing the boat here, so please tell me.