Obama releases tax returns and guess what was there?

pjalive21
pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
edited March 2008 in A Moving Train
27,500 dollars donated to his Trinity Church...oh yeah the one that he wasnt consciously listening to the past 20 years

so does this answer anything to anyone?

oh yeah and out of the 1.5 million he has recently made he has donated less than 1% to charity something he recently has preached to the rest of us to do...

so when you say you believe in "change" you meant the pennies in your pocket, right Obama?

do as i say, not as i do right? gotta love politicians
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Duh, captain obvious! He's a politician...sheesh, what do you expect?? ;)
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    hmmmm...i guess i'm a pedophile since in the past i have given money to the catholic church....:rolleyes:
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    cutback wrote:
    hmmmm...i guess i'm a pedophile since in the past i have given money to the catholic church....:rolleyes:

    You really shouldn't be giving money to those dirty, twisted perverts, cutback. :D;)
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  • SilverSeed
    SilverSeed Posts: 336
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    You really shouldn't be giving money to those dirty, twisted perverts, cutback. :D;)

    Haha...

    Really though $20k to his church is:

    a) charitable (I don't know if this is included in the 1%, and obviously 20k more won't raise that percentage, which is a bummer... I would have loved to have seen a lot more in that area)

    b) definitely not just supporting anti-white rhetoric and whatever else nonsense might be implied. Churches do a lot of good in their communities, regardless of their leader's political leanings (I know this is a broad statement, probably debatable, but on the whole I believe is correct)
    When Jesus said "Love your enemies" he probably didn't mean kill them...

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  • hodge
    hodge Posts: 519
    guess it's time to vote hilary guys!!
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    hodge wrote:
    guess it's time to vote hilary guys!!



    Who would do such a horrible thing like vote for that?
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    hodge wrote:
    guess it's time to vote hilary guys!!

    Still waiting to see hers...
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    pjalive21 wrote:
    so does this answer anything to anyone?
    That Hillary, when/if she finally releases hers, will be wishing she had Obamas accountant.
  • Jzacur
    Jzacur Posts: 64
    He gave about 1 percent of his income which is I believe average for an American citizen. The man has two young children, do you want him to give away all of his money? He probably wants to give his children great opportunities in this world and really who doesn't want that.

    I cannot wait to see Hilary's tax returns. Now that should be entertaining.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    I wouldn't ever give my money to a church. Not a cent.

    It all gets trickles down into the hands of warmongers and others that cheat and steal. Especially TV evangelists.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    pjalive21 wrote:
    27,500 dollars donated to his Trinity Church...oh yeah the one that he wasnt consciously listening to the past 20 years

    so does this answer anything to anyone?

    oh yeah and out of the 1.5 million he has recently made he has donated less than 1% to charity something he recently has preached to the rest of us to do...

    so when you say you believe in "change" you meant the pennies in your pocket, right Obama?

    do as i say, not as i do right? gotta love politicians


    So all church donations are personal contributions to the pastor, now?
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    So all church donations are personal contributions to the pastor, now?

    possibly in this instance...dont know what the intent was when he signed the check and only Obama knows and from the more and more that is coming out everyday on the situation......?

    as far as Hilary, yeah that would be an interesting tax return..haha
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    pjalive21 wrote:
    possibly in this instance...dont know what the intent was when he signed the check and only Obama knows and from the more and more that is coming out everyday on the situation......?

    as far as Hilary, yeah that would be an interesting tax return..haha

    Nothing's coming out "on the situation". Nothing except a couple of hysterically camp neo-Nazis on Fox News.
  • Given2Fly...SD
    Given2Fly...SD Posts: 146
    pjalive21 wrote:
    27,500 dollars donated to his Trinity Church...oh yeah the one that he wasnt consciously listening to the past 20 years

    so does this answer anything to anyone?

    oh yeah and out of the 1.5 million he has recently made he has donated less than 1% to charity something he recently has preached to the rest of us to do...

    so when you say you believe in "change" you meant the pennies in your pocket, right Obama?

    do as i say, not as i do right? gotta love politicians

    Have you ever thought the reason why he only has donated 1% is because he is running his campaign? i mean you never know.

    Also who cares if he donated 20K to his Church. i'm anti-religion, but churchs in general do good deeds no matter who their religious leader is. Every religion has leaders the has said or done terrible things, but it does not mean we should condemn the followers and the whole religion. i.e. catholics-WWII, Jews-Israeli Front, it happens.
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  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I wouldn't ever give my money to a church. Not a cent.

    It all gets trickles down into the hands of warmongers and others that cheat and steal. Especially TV evangelists.

    I'm sorry but that is just stupid. Not all money given to a church or a religious organization "trickles down into the hands of warmongers..."

    What an ignorant comment. I work for a non-profit Christian organization and not a dime of the money that is donated to our area is given to those nasty Republicans.

    As for Obama, it's typical. Always preaching, but never practicing. Seems to be SOP for wealthy liberals, so I'm not surprised.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    SilverSeed wrote:
    Haha...

    Really though $20k to his church is:

    a) charitable (I don't know if this is included in the 1%, and obviously 20k more won't raise that percentage, which is a bummer... I would have loved to have seen a lot more in that area)

    b) definitely not just supporting anti-white rhetoric and whatever else nonsense might be implied. Churches do a lot of good in their communities, regardless of their leader's political leanings (I know this is a broad statement, probably debatable, but on the whole I believe is correct)

    I've said this maybe 100 times on this message board already, but ... who the hell stays in a church if the preacher is spouting shit you find to be horrendously wrong? Much less donates $27 K.

    Seriously, I've known people who have left churches because he won't end in time to catch the noon football games ... guys start spouting stuff that makes me cringe, I'm fucking out of there.

    My only conclusion through all this stuff is that Obama must believe this stuff, too. That might not make a difference to many of you, and cool on that. But if I reject what Rev. Wright says (and I do) then I have to reject B.O. as well.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    BOOOM wrote:
    Have you ever thought the reason why he only has donated 1% is because he is running his campaign? i mean you never know.

    Also who cares if he donated 20K to his Church. i'm anti-religion, but churchs in general do good deeds no matter who their religious leader is. Every religion has leaders the has said or done terrible things, but it does not mean we should condemn the followers and the whole religion. i.e. catholics-WWII, Jews-Israeli Front, it happens.

    Not the point. The point is... He supposedly "barely" went to this church. Or, if he did, he disagreed with almost everything the pastor espoused.

    And yet, he's giving this guy's church more than most of his constituents make in a year?

    You don't see the questions raised in that? You think Obama is being honest here? Really? And if everything is on the up and up, why be untruthful about your relationship with the church?

    Obama is skeevy ... just like everyone else, apparently. If we're not voting for "change" maybe we should at least vote for someone who knows what the fuck they are doing ... which would be either of the other two candidates.
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  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    pjalive21 wrote:
    27,500 dollars donated to his Trinity Church...oh yeah the one that he wasnt consciously listening to the past 20 years

    so does this answer anything to anyone?

    oh yeah and out of the 1.5 million he has recently made he has donated less than 1% to charity something he recently has preached to the rest of us to do...

    so when you say you believe in "change" you meant the pennies in your pocket, right Obama?

    do as i say, not as i do right? gotta love politicians

    If he donated 27,500 to that church alone, he donated nearly 2%. At $1.5M, he only needs to donate 15,000 to reach the 1% mark.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    what a dick Obama is, giving money to a church...

    he must hate america and freedom...
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Not the point. The point is... He supposedly "barely" went to this church. Or, if he did, he disagreed with almost everything the pastor espoused.
    No. Now let me see if I can walk you through this. He went to that church regularly. Rev. Wright is one of a few preachers there. Roughly 2 minutes of footage of Wright have been culled from over 30 years of preaching, from a few different sermons, and labled "hate." Obama claims to have not been there during those sermons (debatable but possible), though he has heard Wright preach controversial things before (most certainly), disagrees with him on a few things (impossible not to), but believes in the overall good of the church and it's works.

    Your point is about as sharp as a cupcake.

    And let's not pretend this is some sort of shocking deal breaker for you here. You'd never have voted for him anyway.

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