XM Silences Opie and Anthony???

pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
edited May 2007 in A Moving Train
I THOUGHT THE POINT OF SATELLITE RADIO WAS SO YOU WERENT POLICED???.................SORRY IF THIS WAS TALKED ABOUT DIDNT SEE IT IN THE SEARCH ENGINE




XM Satellite Radio suspended shock jocks Opie and Anthony for 30 days Tuesday, one week after they aired crude sex comments about Condoleezza Rice, Laura Bush and Queen Elizabeth II and one day after they made light of the incident in their broadcast.

"Comments made by Opie and Anthony on yesterday's broadcast put into question whether they appreciate the seriousness of the matter," Washington-based XM said in a statement. "The management of XM Radio decided to suspend Opie and Anthony to make clear that our on-air talent must take seriously the responsibility that creative freedom requires of them."

Opie and Anthony, who last week apologized for the sex comments, struck a more defensive tone on Monday's broadcast. They lamented the state of radio and what they perceived as excessive reactions to comments made by themselves and other radio disc jockeys.

"We're under the same scrutiny as (National Public Radio) — it doesn't make sense," they said on Monday's show.

The pair also expressed sympathy for Don Imus, saying his career is now "gone, just because he was trying to entertain people."

Last month, cable network MSNBC dropped its simulcast of Imus' show, then CBS Radio fired him for using racist and sexist terms to describe the Rutgers women's basketball team.

On May 9, Opie and Anthony, whose full names are Greg "Opie" Hughes and Anthony Cumia, aired a segment with a man they call Homeless Charlie. As the names of Rice, Bush and the queen came up, Charlie said in vulgar terms that he would like to have sex with each of them.

Opie and Anthony laughed as they imagined Rice's "horror" while describing a violent sexual encounter in which Rice is punched in the face.

Opie and Anthony were fired by CBS Radio in 2002 after broadcasting a call from two listeners who said they were having sex in New York's St. Patrick's Cathedral.

XM hired the pair in 2004. Because the show airs on satellite radio, its content is not subject to regulation by the Federal Communications Commission.

Opie and Anthony also host a syndicated, tamer terrestrial radio program for CBS. Opie and Anthony will be on the air for that program as scheduled Wednesday morning, CBS Radio said Tuesday.

A call to Opie and Anthony's agent, Robert Eatman, was not immediately returned Tuesday.

A spokesman for XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. declined to say whether Opie and Anthony would be paid during their suspension, calling it a contractual matter.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    This self censorship is getting way out of hand. I think it's time for the people to actually start standing up to this. People with XM should start flooding XM's customer service lines with calls to reinstate them or they will cancel their subscriptions. As for terristerial radio we need to use the same actions as the PC brigade and start boycotting advertisers for caving in to these people.

    Here is a fucking tip for the PC brigade. If you don't like what a radio host is saying change the fucking station. I used to get abit miffed when I would here people like O'Reilly and Limbuagh talk about the over the top pc mentality of this nation. After recent events I'm starting to think that they where right.
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  • suntzu98suntzu98 Posts: 100
    We are getting to a point where nothing is "protected" anymore. My feeling on this is....had O&A actually themselves said the remarks I would understand completely for the suspension. However they did not say it a guest on their show said it, so if we are going to go down this road any host of any show should be held to the same standard! It is a pay service plain and simple, the FCC has no jurisdiction on this media and it pisses me the fuck off. I feel Bill Maher or Rush Limbaugh or whomever is a host and a guest makes remarks out of school should get the can as well, of I forgot Rosie as well however she already got the ax, guess now we have to hope for Bill Maher.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    suntzu98 wrote:
    We are getting to a point where nothing is "protected" anymore. My feeling on this is....had O&A actually themselves said the remarks I would understand completely for the suspension. However they did not say it a guest on their show said it, so if we are going to go down this road any host of any show should be held to the same standard! It is a pay service plain and simple, the FCC has no jurisdiction on this media and it pisses me the fuck off. I feel Bill Maher or Rush Limbaugh or whomever is a host and a guest makes remarks out of school should get the can as well, of I forgot Rosie as well however she already got the ax, guess now we have to hope for Bill Maher.

    No one should get the can, specially on a pay service plan like satelite radio or HBO. It's utter bullshit and the fucked up part is that it's not even the FCC doing it. We are doing it to ourselves.
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  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    mammasan wrote:
    No one should get the can, specially on a pay service plan like satelite radio or HBO. It's utter bullshit and the fucked up part is that it's not even the FCC doing it. We are doing it to ourselves.

    i agree with you here...100%

    XM is out of line here and it could be the beginning of one of the nails in the coffin of pay service satellite radio

    this is going to be a snow ball affect if XM gets away with this
  • suntzu98suntzu98 Posts: 100
    I don't know if we are doing it ourselves I pay for XM and Opie and Anthony a buddy of mine already demanded free months...which he got but it shouldn't come to this at all, whatever your feelings are for them or for Homeless Charlie which btw he is really fucking funny.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    In private industry, your boss can choose to suspend you if she/he wants. If this was the government, that would be one thing, but I support private industry's right to police itself.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    suntzu98 wrote:
    I don't know if we are doing it ourselves I pay for XM and Opie and Anthony a buddy of mine already demanded free months...which he got but it shouldn't come to this at all, whatever your feelings are for them or for Homeless Charlie which btw he is really fucking funny.

    I'm not huge fans of O&A. I listen to their show on terrestrial radio, since my ex-wife got my satellite radio, simply because there is shit on the radio at that time. I just find it ridiculous that we are censoring ourselves. In none of the recent cases of jocks being suspended or fired did the FCC play a role. All of them where done in because they said something that someone didn't like. I mean I would expect the government to try something like this. I didn't think we would be fucking stupid enough to do their job for them.
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  • This private company promoted the shows on that channel as "uncensored talk." XM replayed the "deplorable comments" 3 more times that day (the show is replayed throughout the day). They allowed another portion of that segment to be aired the following day (and replayed 3 more times). At what point did XM executives decide that the content of the show was deplorable? XM is doing this because they are afraid of Al Sharpton's protests, but they'll soon find out that their paying customers won't stand for this bullshit. The show's been suspended, but word from people close to the show is that XM is firing them. If that's the case, then the number of subscriptions cancelled will make their heads spin. As it stands now, many of their fans have already cancelled their subscriptions to protest the fact that XM even took the step of suspending them. The fact is, subscribers who signed up to hear Opie and Anthony did not sign up for censored talk. We can get that on FM for free.
    know1 wrote:
    In private industry, your boss can choose to suspend you if she/he wants. If this was the government, that would be one thing, but I support private industry's right to police itself.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    This private company promoted the shows on that channel as "uncensored talk." XM replayed the "deplorable comments" 3 more times that day (the show is replayed throughout the day). They allowed another portion of that segment to be aired the following day (and replayed 3 more times). At what point did XM executives decide that the content of the show was deplorable? XM is doing this because they are afraid of Al Sharpton's protests, but they'll soon find out that their paying customers won't stand for this bullshit. The show's been suspended, but word from people close to the show is that XM is firing them. If that's the case, then the number of subscriptions cancelled will make their heads spin. As it stands now, many of their fans have already cancelled their subscriptions to protest the fact that XM even took the step of suspending them. The fact is, subscribers who signed up to hear Opie and Anthony did not sign up for censored talk. We can get that on FM for free.

    Well said. I wasn't paying for Sirius, before it was forcefully pried from my hands, just so I can hear a censored Howard Stern.
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  • Maybe I should keep paying to hear every Yankees game. Oh wait, I get the YES Network and Susan Waldman's voice makes me want to murder newborns. I guess I'll get the remaining 11 months of my subscription refunded.
    mammasan wrote:
    Well said. I wasn't paying for Sirius, before it was forcefully pried from my hands, just so I can hear a censored Howard Stern.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    sirius wont be censored... and isnt XM owned by Clear Channel... they are nazis.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    suntzu98 wrote:
    We are getting to a point where nothing is "protected" anymore. My feeling on this is....had O&A actually themselves said the remarks I would understand completely for the suspension. However they did not say it a guest on their show said it, so if we are going to go down this road any host of any show should be held to the same standard! It is a pay service plain and simple, the FCC has no jurisdiction on this media and it pisses me the fuck off. I feel Bill Maher or Rush Limbaugh or whomever is a host and a guest makes remarks out of school should get the can as well, of I forgot Rosie as well however she already got the ax, guess now we have to hope for Bill Maher.

    Just a clarification, Homeles Charlie isn't a guest, he's a prop.

    My question is:

    why did they apologize?

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  • Clear Channel owns a very small amount of stock in XM. They do not have enough stock in the company to have any say in this matter. They basically own a little stock and get to program a few music channels (which XM moved to their own little "neighborhood" in the channel lineup so they could replace those channels with similar channels without commercials).
    The decision to supend O & A had nothing to do with Clear Channel. It has everything to do with executives at XM being pussies with no idea that their spineless decision would actually cost them a lot of money.
    macgyver06 wrote:
    sirius wont be censored... and isnt XM owned by Clear Channel... they are nazis.
  • bgivens33bgivens33 Posts: 290
    So a private business doesn't have a right to control it's own content??

    Stop screaming censorship... it was a business decision. Obviously XM is out to maximize profits and despite popular belief they are allowed to instruct their employee what they can and can't say.
  • azwyldcatsazwyldcats Posts: 710
    Who? Oh yeah, Howard Stern imitators without talent and Jim Norton a D level comedian. Zero. Point. Zero.
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  • Then they shouldn't promote "uncensored talk." The ironic thing is that XM's decision is costing them money because fans of the show are cancelling their subscriptions in support of the show. They rely on subscribers for their income, not advertisers, so why piss off the fans of one of their most popular programs?

    XM's decision had nothing to do with the content of the show. If it did, they would have cut the segment out of the replays (which they have done in the past). This was done because Al Sharpton waddled out in front of some news cameras and spewed his bullshit and XM was afraid of the big bad wolf. They caved in to pressure from people who had no leverage over them at all. The FCC doesn't give a shit if there was a controversial segment on the XM portion of the Opie and Anthony show. They have far more valid reasons than that for not approving the merger with Sirius.
    bgivens33 wrote:
    So a private business doesn't have a right to control it's own content??

    Stop screaming censorship... it was a business decision. Obviously XM is out to maximize profits and despite popular belief they are allowed to instruct their employee what they can and can't say.
  • Yeah, cuz Artie's Beerleague did so well. How much did that pull in? $50,000? Oh yeah, that D-level comedian's got a 1-hour stand-up special on HBO taping in June. When's Artie's?
    azwyldcats wrote:
    Who? Oh yeah, Howard Stern imitators without talent and Jim Norton a D level comedian. Zero. Point. Zero.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Howard Stern said it best, "If you want free speech walk into your closet and talk to yourself."
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    azwyldcats wrote:
    Who? Oh yeah, Howard Stern imitators without talent and Jim Norton a D level comedian. Zero. Point. Zero.

    Howard Stern has talent?

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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    gue_barium wrote:
    Howard Stern has talent?

    Loads of it.
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  • bgivens33bgivens33 Posts: 290
    Then they shouldn't promote "uncensored talk." The ironic thing is that XM's decision is costing them money because fans of the show are cancelling their subscriptions in support of the show. They rely on subscribers for their income, not advertisers, so why piss off the fans of one of their most popular programs?

    XM's decision had nothing to do with the content of the show. If it did, they would have cut the segment out of the replays (which they have done in the past). This was done because Al Sharpton waddled out in front of some news cameras and spewed his bullshit and XM was afraid of the big bad wolf. They caved in to pressure from people who had no leverage over them at all. The FCC doesn't give a shit if there was a controversial segment on the XM portion of the Opie and Anthony show. They have far more valid reasons than that for not approving the merger with Sirius.

    The bottom line is that they are making a business decision. They weighed the lost subscriptions vs. a lawsuit and went with the latter. It all boils down to money, and if you don't think someone like Al Sharpton(or Jesse) has leverage... I'd take a good long look at the Imus situation. Though, not completely parallel, but it is close. I think people should focus their anger towards those two... not XM. This is CLEARLY not a "moral" stance against questionable programming, it's all about the dollar.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Listeners shocked by XM hosts' suspension
    Many cancel the service. Some suspect a proposed merger with Sirius is a factor in the punishment.
    By Jim Puzzanghera and Amy Kaufman, Times Staff Writers
    May 17, 2007

    WASHINGTON — Satellite radio bills itself as the Wild West of the airwaves, an uncensored outpost beyond the reach of federal regulators where expletives fly with impunity and the banter can get as raunchy as at a strip club.

    But the decision this week by XM Satellite Radio to suspend shock jocks Opie and Anthony for 30 days for crude sexual comments about First Lady Laura Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Queen Elizabeth II has listeners wondering whether there's a new sheriff in town.

    Some XM listeners were outraged — not at the comments but at XM's reaction.

    "I signed up for XM because it's uncensored. I like these guys because they are so unfiltered," said Placentia resident Paul Hebert, who canceled his $12.95 monthly XM subscription Tuesday in protest.

    He wasn't alone. Hundreds of angry subscribers have flooded XM's operators with calls to cancel since the suspension was announced Tuesday. About 60 listeners smashed their XM receivers Wednesday outside the WFNY-FM studios in New York, where Gregg "Opie" Hughes and Anthony Cumia continued to air their tamer, over-the-air broadcast for CBS Radio.

    "The reaction is mind-blowing," said Ryan Saghir of North Branford, Conn., who runs a blog about satellite radio called Orbitcast. "One of the main attractors to satellite radio is the unregulated content. Once you take away that … you're going to have some upset subscribers."

    But industry observers said XM might have been more worried about offending federal regulators, who can block the company's proposed merger with its only rival, Sirius Satellite Radio, than staying true to its slogan, "Beyond AM. Beyond FM. XM."

    Sensitivities have been heightened in Washington since the controversy over veteran shock jock Don Imus' racially offensive comments about the Rutgers University women's basketball team, which led to his firing last month by CBS Radio.

    "It's hard to read anything into it other than that they're catering to federal officials," said William Kidd, a media analyst with Wedbush Morgan Securities in Los Angeles.

    XM spokesman Nathaniel Brown would not comment on whether the pending merger was a factor in the suspension and would not say how many people had canceled their subscriptions. XM has suspended on-air personalities before, he said, but none with as high a profile as Hughes and Cumia.

    It's not the first time a skit has landed the two shock jocks in trouble. CBS Radio, then known as Infinity Broadcasting, fired them in 2002 for broadcasting two listeners apparently having sex in New York's St. Patrick's Cathedral. The Federal Communications Commission fined Infinity $357,000 for the stunt.

    XM, which does not fall under the FCC's indecency rules because it is a pay service, hired Hughes and Cumia in 2004. Their program, "The Opie & Anthony Show," airs from 6 a.m. to 9 a.m. on XM and 24 CBS radio affiliates, which picked the duo back up last year.

    It continues until about 11 a.m. only on XM, a segment that the show's website touts as "uncut, uncensored and totally filthy."

    On May 9, the XM portion of the show aired a skit featuring a character called Homeless Charlie, who graphically described having sex with Bush, Rice and the queen. Hughes and Cumia played along, laughing and asking questions.

    XM issued a statement condemning the comments, and Cumia and Hughes apologized on the air Friday.

    On Monday's show, Hughes and Cumia complained about "dumb rules" and an "umbrella of morality and decency" that led Imus and some other hosts to get fired. XM officials suspended the pair Tuesday, saying the comments "put into question whether they appreciate the seriousness of the matter."

    Satellite radio followers said the suspension was unprecedented. Some XM listeners were stunned and angry when they heard about it.

    Ed L. Kelley of Wagoner, Okla., said he spent six hours on the phone Tuesday night trying to cancel. He's talking to an attorney about a class-action suit, saying that because "The Opie & Anthony Show" appears on one of XM's "explicit-language" channels, the company has violated its promise to deliver uncensored content.

    "These guys make me laugh and they make fun of everybody equally," Kelley said.

    Debbie Wolf, co-founder of People Against Censorship, called the suspension "outrageous" and organized the demonstration outside CBS Radio's studios. Christopher Lewis of Glenmoore, Penn., quickly registered http://www.cancelxm.com , and the message boards there and on other satellite radio sites have filled up with dozens of angry comments.

    "I will not support a company that has decided the one true reason they exist no longer matters," wrote one poster on Orbitcast.

    Howard Stern, who left traditional radio in 2004 after battling regulators, also weighed in from his new post at Sirius.

    "If you want free speech," he told his listeners Wednesday, "walk in a closet and talk to yourself."

    Kidd said the suspension could make it difficult for XM to attract edgy radio personalities who have viewed satellite as a haven for their outrageous acts.

    "This will probably be a decision that XM will have to live with and, I suspect, likely regret over time," he said.

    The suspension would be as surprising as HBO pulling "The Sopranos" for offensive content and will reverberate through the industry, said Tom Taylor, a former program director who edits the trade journal Inside Radio.

    "People in the satellite world have felt safe … until this week," he said.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-shockradio17may17,1,2999850.story?coll=la-headlines-business&ctrack=1&cset=true
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    bgivens33 wrote:
    The bottom line is that they are making a business decision. They weighed the lost subscriptions vs. a lawsuit and went with the latter. It all boils down to money, and if you don't think someone like Al Sharpton(or Jesse) has leverage... I'd take a good long look at the Imus situation. Though, not completely parallel, but it is close. I think people should focus their anger towards those two... not XM. This is CLEARLY not a "moral" stance against questionable programming, it's all about the dollar.


    No they based their decision on money. they know that the approval of the XM Sirius merger is in Congress' hands right now and they don't want to jeapodize that. Once again the 1st Amendment takes a back seat to the almight dollar.
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  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    mammasan wrote:
    No they based their decision on money. they know that the approval of the XM Sirius merger is in Congress' hands right now and they don't want to jeapodize that. Once again the 1st Amendment takes a back seat to the almight dollar.

    i'd do more than that for a dollar.......
  • bgivens33bgivens33 Posts: 290
    mammasan wrote:
    No they based their decision on money. they know that the approval of the XM Sirius merger is in Congress' hands right now and they don't want to jeapodize that. Once again the 1st Amendment takes a back seat to the almight dollar.

    I just said it was all about the dollar... did you not read that part? And as someone pointed out earlier... the FCC has plenty of reasons to not let the deal go through, I highly doubt they even care about a couple of radio dj's. This has nothing to do with the 1st amendment.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    bgivens33 wrote:
    I just said it was all about the dollar... did you not read that part? And as someone pointed out earlier... the FCC has plenty of reasons to not let the deal go through, I highly doubt they even care about a couple of radio dj's. This has nothing to do with the 1st amendment.

    Sorry I sort of just glanced over your post. I think the 1st amendment comes into play here because satellite radio was always advertising as being a free for all. A place where you didn't have to watch what you said and where free to express yourself as you see fit.
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  • bgivens33bgivens33 Posts: 290
    edit:

    Private businesses don't have to offer free speech. They are not bound to the same bill of rights as the Government is. You don't have the right to bring a gun to work do you? False advertising... maybe, but not 1st amendment.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    bgivens33 wrote:
    A mother tells a kid not to talk.... 1st amendment
    Your boss asks everyone to be quiet in a meeting.... 1st amendment
    You get to asked to leave at a library for talking to loud... 1st amendment

    Do you see how absurd that sounds?? As an employer, I can demand certain things out of my employees, and not violate their free speech. O and A are welcome to say whatever they want, just not while XM is footing the bill. You truly must understand that.

    That is why I edited it.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    bgivens33 wrote:
    O and A are welcome to say whatever they want, just not while XM is footing the bill. You truly must understand that.

    But XM is not the only ones footing the bill, the suscribers are footing the bill as well and as long as they found nothing wrong with the statement I don't see any grounds for the suspension.
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