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i have officially sold my soul

soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
this morning i wrote a paper that concluded that oil companies should not be held liable for adding a toxic chemical (MTBE) that contaminates water supplies to gasoline. and i really think it made sense.

who needs a soul anyway right?
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I'll give you a shiny nickel.



    tell us about your paper and your arguments
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    soulsinging wrote:
    this morning i wrote a paper that concluded that oil companies should not be held liable for adding a toxic chemical (MTBE) that contaminates water supplies to gasoline. and i really think it made sense.

    who needs a soul anyway right?


    it's a damn good insulator though. So why did you conclude that?
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  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,696
    MTBE beats the hell out of lead. Plus, I'm not sure it's even been demostrated that it is toxic within water sources, correct?
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    soulsinging wrote:
    this morning i wrote a paper that concluded that oil companies should not be held liable for adding a toxic chemical (MTBE) that contaminates water supplies to gasoline. and i really think it made sense.

    who needs a soul anyway right?

    As a followup, for the souls of your children, you can now do a paper on the great benefits of rBHG, and how it makes a body grow.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    puremagic wrote:
    As a followup, for the souls of your children, you can now do a paper on the great benefits of rBHG, and how it makes a body grow.

    :D Ain't Chemistry Fun? Happy Belated Birthday. Only 18 days late.

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    You do have to consider SS that Gasoline itself can be carcinogenic.

    Failing to transport it safely is already a crime.
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  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    :D Ain't Chemistry Fun? Happy Belated Birthday. Only 18 days late.



    ________________________________

    You do have to consider SS that Gasoline itself can be carcinogenic.

    Failing to transport it safely is already a crime.


    Love it with a passion. Thanks! and same to you. If I was just as good of a gearhead I'd be deadly.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    soulsinging wrote:
    this morning i wrote a paper that concluded that oil companies should not be held liable for adding a toxic chemical (MTBE) that contaminates water supplies to gasoline. and i really think it made sense.

    who needs a soul anyway right?

    aren't you in law school? i thought you lost your soul automatically upon matriculation.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    chopitdown wrote:
    aren't you in law school? i thought you lost your soul automatically upon matriculation.

    that's entirely possible. i didnt read the fine print ;)
  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    chopitdown wrote:
    aren't you in law school? i thought you lost your soul automatically upon matriculation.

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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    farfromglorified wrote:
    MTBE beats the hell out of lead. Plus, I'm not sure it's even been demostrated that it is toxic within water sources, correct?

    it's potentially carcinogenic, though not certainly. it also makes drinking water smell and taste awful. it was introduced as an oxygenate to up the octane and reduce emissions. it actually doesn't do that, it makes them worse. but mtbe is a byproduct of gasoline refining, so using that instead of more environmentally healthy alternatives saves them billions. also, the nature of the stuff is it is highly water soluble, so when spilled, it reaches groundwater faster and remains there for decades. so i guess it's not lethal (not yet and not for sure anyway), but it is making our drinking water undrinkable so the oil companies can save some money...
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    it's a damn good insulator though. So why did you conclude that?

    it wasn't their fault for choosing to use it, it was as legitimate a choice as any other. and it's not fair to hold the entire industry liable collectively when with a little (read a lot and expensive) work most plaintiffs can identify a specific polluter and in cases where they cannot, it's better to sue the gas station owner (the little guy entrepaneur trying to make a living) and let him try to recover from the gas provider if he wants.
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    i believe only a few companies use MTBE, like Valero...could be wrong

    hasn't it been found to cause kidney lesions in animals?

    it also degrades veeeeery slowly taking decadeSSSSSS

    also, they never conducted tests on humans before using it as an additive and the tests they do now are only from ingestation...even the epa says it's a potential carcinogen...so far 1/2 the union has banned it...under clinton the epa planned to totally phase it out by 2004...but bush cancelled that
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I'll give you a shiny nickel.



    tell us about your paper and your arguments


    I want my money back
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    soulsinging wrote:
    this morning i wrote a paper that concluded that oil companies should not be held liable for adding a toxic chemical (MTBE) that contaminates water supplies to gasoline. and i really think it made sense.

    who needs a soul anyway right?


    just be honest. then your soul is safe... :)
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    soulsinging wrote:
    this morning i wrote a paper that concluded that oil companies should not be held liable for adding a toxic chemical (MTBE) that contaminates water supplies to gasoline. and i really think it made sense.

    who needs a soul anyway right?


    who said you had a soul in the first place...
  • humanlighthumanlight Posts: 271
    Regardless if I feel your paper is morally right or wrong, you are going to make a damn fine atterny if you can argue shit like this. Which, by the way puts in a pretty powerful position....use it wisely.
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    humanlight wrote:
    Regardless if I feel your paper is morally right or wrong, you are going to make a damn fine atterny if you can argue shit like this. Which, by the way puts in a pretty powerful position....use it wisely.

    Fuck that! Use it for EVIL, EVIL, EVIL!
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  • Jammin909Jammin909 Posts: 888
    humanlight wrote:
    Regardless if I feel your paper is morally right or wrong, you are going to make a damn fine atterny if you can argue shit like this. Which, by the way puts in a pretty powerful position....use it wisely.

    Everyone gets fucked over...it's a matter of who is held accountable.

    It's just the corporate bosses and lawyers who can afford the bottled water, hospital bills, and comfortable pillow to rest that manipulative head.
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  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    ill sell my soul for 50$ any takers?????????
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    my2hands wrote:
    who said you had a soul in the first place...

    jesus told me so.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    humanlight wrote:
    Regardless if I feel your paper is morally right or wrong, you are going to make a damn fine atterny if you can argue shit like this. Which, by the way puts in a pretty powerful position....use it wisely.

    after i get my family set, i will. until then, ill be finding loopholes wherever they may be discovered.
  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    soulsinging wrote:
    this morning i wrote a paper that concluded that oil companies should not be held liable for adding a toxic chemical (MTBE) that contaminates water supplies to gasoline. and i really think it made sense.

    who needs a soul anyway right?

    from a certain point of view, they actually shouldn't be held responsible. The MTBE was a government mandate. Oil companies were required by law to add it to the gasoline. It wasn't until later that they figured out that MTBE was just as bad as the stuff it was supposed to replace.

    The government bears at least some of the responsibility for cleaning it up.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    godpt3 wrote:
    from a certain point of view, they actually shouldn't be held responsible. The MTBE was a government mandate. Oil companies were required by law to add it to the gasoline. It wasn't until later that they figured out that MTBE was just as bad as the stuff it was supposed to replace.

    The government bears at least some of the responsibility for cleaning it up.

    they were required to oxygenate their gas. they could have used other materials and they knew it. they chose MTBE becos it was a refining byproduct and would save them huge money. then they lobbied the government heavily to get it approved and protect it form being investigated. it was all very shady stuff and those guys are undoubtedly guilty as sin in the moral sense.

    sadly, i truly dont think they are guilty as charged in the legal sense.
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