Sport killing???
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/19/homeless.attacks/index.html
What the hell is wrong w/ kids or anybody for that matter that kills people for the FUN of it?! Where does this come from? I'll go out on a limb and say it's lack of guidance. As the article states, its mostly middle-class suburban teens that are doing this. That's a big generalization but I can see how it could happen. Parents are working a lot and don't spend enough time w/ their kids and don't give them the attention that they need. That leaves impressionable kids watching "bum fights" and doing things out of boredom. Uhhh...frustrating.
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MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin (CNN) -- All Nathan Moore says he wanted to do was smoke pot and get drunk with his friends.
Killing Rex Baum was never part of the plan that day in 2004.
"It all started off as a game," Moore said.
The 15-year-old and his friends were taunting the homeless man -- throwing sticks and leaves -- after having a couple of beers with him.
No big deal, Moore says, but he's sorry for what came next.
It was a mistake, he said, a sudden primal surge that made him and his friends Luis Oyola, 16, and 17-year-old Andrew Ihrcke begin punching and kicking Baum.
"Luis says 'I'm gonna go hit him,' We're all laughing, thought he was joking around,'" but he wasn't, Moore concedes. "We just all started hitting him."
They hurled anything they could find -- rocks, bricks, even Baum's barbecue grill -- and pounded the 49-year-old with a pipe and with the baseball bat he kept at his campsite for protection.
Ihrcke smeared his own feces on Baum's face before cutting him with a knife "to see if he was alive," Moore said.
After destroying Baum's camp, the boys left the homeless man -- head wedged in his own grill -- under a piece of plastic where they hoped the "animals would eat" him.
Then, Moore says, they took off to grab a bite at McDonald's.
Baum's murder was indicative of a disturbing trend.
A National Coalition for the Homeless report says last year, there were 122 attacks and 20 murders against the homeless, the most attacks in nearly a decade. (Coalition report on 2006 homeless attacks)
Police found Baum's body two days after the teens attacked him.
They bragged about it around town. Police picked them up and they described what happened.
Ihrcke told police that killing "the bum" reminded him of playing a violent video game, a police report shows.
All three teens pleaded no contest to first degree reckless homicide charges and went to prison.
Moore recently turned 18 at Columbia Correctional Institution in Portage, Wisconsin, where he is serving a 15 year sentence.
"When [the beating] stops, you say, 'What did we just do?'" he told CNN. "There's no rational explanation." (Watch teen explain how "game" became tragedy )
Teenage 'amusement'
"It's disturbing to know that young people would literally kick someone when they're already down on their luck," said Michael Stoops, the executive director of the Washington-based National Coalition for the Homeless. "We recognize that this isn't every teenager, but for some this passes as amusement."
Criminologists call these wilding sprees "sport killing," -- largely middle-class teens, with no criminal records, assaulting the homeless with bats, golf clubs, paintball guns. (Watch how nights are cold, fearful for Milwaukee homeless )
Some teens have even taped themselves in the act. Others have said they were inspired by "Bumfights," a video series created in 2002 and sold on the Web that features homeless people pummeling each other for the promise of a few bucks.
A segment called "Bum Hunter," hosted by a Crocodile Hunter-like actor wearing a safari outfit, shows him "tagging" homeless people by pouncing on them and binding their wrists.
The distributors of "Bumfights" have claimed they've sold hundreds of thousands of copies.
But the company has had to deal with a couple of legal issues unrelated to the Baum case.
Last year, three former homeless stars of "Bumfights" won a civil suit against filmmakers. Santa Monica attorney Mark Quigley, who represented Rufus Hannah, known as "Rufus the Stunt Bum" to series' fans, said he is unable to disclose the amount of the settlement.
Also, in July 2006, a California judge ordered "Bumfights'" producers Ryan McPherson and Zachary Bubeck to spend 180 days in jail for failing to perform community service related to guilty pleas they previously entered to charges of staging illegal street fights.
"Bumfights" directors did not answer CNN's request for an interview.
Attacks across the nation
Incidents of teen-on-homeless violence dotted the map last year. Florida racked up at least six such attacks in 2006. (Homeless attack across U.S.)
In Lauderhill, four teens were arrested after they allegedly videotaped themselves beating, dragging, and stealing from a homeless man.
The victim has not been found, but the four face one charge each of strong-armed robbery.
Earlier this month, teens in Corpus Christi, Texas, videotaped themselves attacking a homeless man.
Commander David Torres said police arrested a 15-year-old and are looking for at least one more teenager and a 22-year-old who described on tape what they were about to do before they jumped on the man. (Read full story)
On the other side of the nation, former Oregon State University student Joshua Grimes stands accused of shooting and injuring a homeless man from his perch in a fraternity house window.
He has not yet entered a plea, but, according to a police report, he cried to detectives after the October shooting, telling them, "I didn't mean to shoot him."
At least three homeless people in Kalamazoo, Michigan, reported being attacked by teens on bicycles during a 10-day span in October, according to the homeless coalition.
In Huntsville, Alabama, six teens -- one of them 13 -- beat a homeless man with golf clubs, the coalition reported. But perhaps the most shocking of these examples was 2006's first recorded case of teen-on-homeless violence.
On January 12 in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, a surveillance camera captured two teens beating a homeless man with bats.
Prosecutors say 17-year-old skateboarder Tom Daugherty, 18-year-old Brian Hooks, a popular hockey team captain, and a third unseen teen, Billy Ammons, a high school dropout, assaulted two more homeless men that night.
One of them was 45-year-old Norris Gaynor. A witness, Anthony Clarke, told police and CNN last year that he saw the three teens approach Gaynor as he slept on a park bench. Daugherty began whacking Gaynor with a bat, Clarke said. (Watch two teenagers beat a cowering homeless man with bats )
As Gaynor lay dying, Ammons shot him with yellow paintballs, later remarking that the beating felt like "teeing off," police said.
Gaynor was beaten so badly his own father didn't recognize him. Facing life in prison, the teens face trial for murder later this year. They have each pleaded not guilty to one count of first-degree murder and two counts of attempted murder. (Read full story)
What the hell is wrong w/ kids or anybody for that matter that kills people for the FUN of it?! Where does this come from? I'll go out on a limb and say it's lack of guidance. As the article states, its mostly middle-class suburban teens that are doing this. That's a big generalization but I can see how it could happen. Parents are working a lot and don't spend enough time w/ their kids and don't give them the attention that they need. That leaves impressionable kids watching "bum fights" and doing things out of boredom. Uhhh...frustrating.
________________________
MILWAUKEE, Wisconsin (CNN) -- All Nathan Moore says he wanted to do was smoke pot and get drunk with his friends.
Killing Rex Baum was never part of the plan that day in 2004.
"It all started off as a game," Moore said.
The 15-year-old and his friends were taunting the homeless man -- throwing sticks and leaves -- after having a couple of beers with him.
No big deal, Moore says, but he's sorry for what came next.
It was a mistake, he said, a sudden primal surge that made him and his friends Luis Oyola, 16, and 17-year-old Andrew Ihrcke begin punching and kicking Baum.
"Luis says 'I'm gonna go hit him,' We're all laughing, thought he was joking around,'" but he wasn't, Moore concedes. "We just all started hitting him."
They hurled anything they could find -- rocks, bricks, even Baum's barbecue grill -- and pounded the 49-year-old with a pipe and with the baseball bat he kept at his campsite for protection.
Ihrcke smeared his own feces on Baum's face before cutting him with a knife "to see if he was alive," Moore said.
After destroying Baum's camp, the boys left the homeless man -- head wedged in his own grill -- under a piece of plastic where they hoped the "animals would eat" him.
Then, Moore says, they took off to grab a bite at McDonald's.
Baum's murder was indicative of a disturbing trend.
A National Coalition for the Homeless report says last year, there were 122 attacks and 20 murders against the homeless, the most attacks in nearly a decade. (Coalition report on 2006 homeless attacks)
Police found Baum's body two days after the teens attacked him.
They bragged about it around town. Police picked them up and they described what happened.
Ihrcke told police that killing "the bum" reminded him of playing a violent video game, a police report shows.
All three teens pleaded no contest to first degree reckless homicide charges and went to prison.
Moore recently turned 18 at Columbia Correctional Institution in Portage, Wisconsin, where he is serving a 15 year sentence.
"When [the beating] stops, you say, 'What did we just do?'" he told CNN. "There's no rational explanation." (Watch teen explain how "game" became tragedy )
Teenage 'amusement'
"It's disturbing to know that young people would literally kick someone when they're already down on their luck," said Michael Stoops, the executive director of the Washington-based National Coalition for the Homeless. "We recognize that this isn't every teenager, but for some this passes as amusement."
Criminologists call these wilding sprees "sport killing," -- largely middle-class teens, with no criminal records, assaulting the homeless with bats, golf clubs, paintball guns. (Watch how nights are cold, fearful for Milwaukee homeless )
Some teens have even taped themselves in the act. Others have said they were inspired by "Bumfights," a video series created in 2002 and sold on the Web that features homeless people pummeling each other for the promise of a few bucks.
A segment called "Bum Hunter," hosted by a Crocodile Hunter-like actor wearing a safari outfit, shows him "tagging" homeless people by pouncing on them and binding their wrists.
The distributors of "Bumfights" have claimed they've sold hundreds of thousands of copies.
But the company has had to deal with a couple of legal issues unrelated to the Baum case.
Last year, three former homeless stars of "Bumfights" won a civil suit against filmmakers. Santa Monica attorney Mark Quigley, who represented Rufus Hannah, known as "Rufus the Stunt Bum" to series' fans, said he is unable to disclose the amount of the settlement.
Also, in July 2006, a California judge ordered "Bumfights'" producers Ryan McPherson and Zachary Bubeck to spend 180 days in jail for failing to perform community service related to guilty pleas they previously entered to charges of staging illegal street fights.
"Bumfights" directors did not answer CNN's request for an interview.
Attacks across the nation
Incidents of teen-on-homeless violence dotted the map last year. Florida racked up at least six such attacks in 2006. (Homeless attack across U.S.)
In Lauderhill, four teens were arrested after they allegedly videotaped themselves beating, dragging, and stealing from a homeless man.
The victim has not been found, but the four face one charge each of strong-armed robbery.
Earlier this month, teens in Corpus Christi, Texas, videotaped themselves attacking a homeless man.
Commander David Torres said police arrested a 15-year-old and are looking for at least one more teenager and a 22-year-old who described on tape what they were about to do before they jumped on the man. (Read full story)
On the other side of the nation, former Oregon State University student Joshua Grimes stands accused of shooting and injuring a homeless man from his perch in a fraternity house window.
He has not yet entered a plea, but, according to a police report, he cried to detectives after the October shooting, telling them, "I didn't mean to shoot him."
At least three homeless people in Kalamazoo, Michigan, reported being attacked by teens on bicycles during a 10-day span in October, according to the homeless coalition.
In Huntsville, Alabama, six teens -- one of them 13 -- beat a homeless man with golf clubs, the coalition reported. But perhaps the most shocking of these examples was 2006's first recorded case of teen-on-homeless violence.
On January 12 in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, a surveillance camera captured two teens beating a homeless man with bats.
Prosecutors say 17-year-old skateboarder Tom Daugherty, 18-year-old Brian Hooks, a popular hockey team captain, and a third unseen teen, Billy Ammons, a high school dropout, assaulted two more homeless men that night.
One of them was 45-year-old Norris Gaynor. A witness, Anthony Clarke, told police and CNN last year that he saw the three teens approach Gaynor as he slept on a park bench. Daugherty began whacking Gaynor with a bat, Clarke said. (Watch two teenagers beat a cowering homeless man with bats )
As Gaynor lay dying, Ammons shot him with yellow paintballs, later remarking that the beating felt like "teeing off," police said.
Gaynor was beaten so badly his own father didn't recognize him. Facing life in prison, the teens face trial for murder later this year. They have each pleaded not guilty to one count of first-degree murder and two counts of attempted murder. (Read full story)
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"She fell funny"
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"She fell funny"
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was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
It's very scary. Boredom, thrill seeking, whatever you want to call it to the point of killing a fairly defenseless person? How does one get to be that fucked up w/ seemingly no morals whatsoever?
"She fell funny"
"Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
In other words, let's hold the parents responsible.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
It'd certainly perk a few adults' head up.
"She fell funny"
"Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
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there you go. start punishing people for crimes they didn't commit. lets punish the video game makers and hollywood too for puting the ideas into these kids heads.
It's wierd how that works isn't it. For a long time i refused to believe that fictional violence in movies and videogames and reality violence in ufc and other similar shows contributed to actual violence but i'm starting think differently. I guess i just thought that, since it didn't really make me want to go out, steal a car, run over people and blow stuff up, it wouldn't make anyone else want to do the same thing. I don't think it's totally a product of today's media but more a combination of parental apathy and televised violence and violence on the internet.
"She fell funny"
"Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
So are you saying parents have no responsibility over their children?
These kids weren't raised in a church.
This is why they use guns and other weapons. A gun turns anyone into a tough guy.
I practiced MMA for years, and it made me respect the fragility of life. anyone can pull a trigger. Not just anyone can do the same with their bare hands.
If these punks took the time to learn self discipline and self defense, I bet that many of them would develop a new appreciation for how fragile life truly is. I know that I did.
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well i was a kid recently and still qualify as a teenager, but i think this fucking shit that they do is appalling. this kids are ungrateful little fucks!! :mad:
haha, they should go and live in third world country and be born into a poor family, then will see what those spoilt fucking brats would do.
oh, they need to be intertained? fuck that, they can still entertain themselves.....by choosing a sports that don't cost nothing like playing a football, drawing, whatever....
or just study their bloody fucking homework.
we should be more strict with those fucks otherwise they will get so out of hand....... those kids could be the soon to be prisoners in jails.
fucking dickheads!! :mad:
why don't we just lower the age of punshiment for crime to 5 years old??
i don't see any problem with that at all!
Murder One
He fought for and he believed that, this was the promise land
He lost his job, the factory, moved its plant to Japan
Once he was respected, an expert with his gun,
but that was then and this is now, today he's called a bum
Heres the story of three punks with a burning desire
To be gangsters to be guns for hire
Moreland ave. on a hot summer night
Pete wanted to kill someone and do it tonight
He's the boy that did the ultimate sin
Got the blood of christ dripping from his skin
With his silver spoon and his beady eyes
He decided who should live and who should die
Murderer, Pete is a Murder
Dressed in suits, dressed for the kill
Walking to the bridge at the bottom of the hill
Looked for a passed out bum and they found one
Pete slit his throat just for fun
The bum went running through the bushes and weeds
They held his arms and made him bleed
Headlights flashing and the world spun around
The man was screaming when he hit the ground
Murderer, Paul is a Murder
I wept and wondered what should i say
About the children who threw a mans life away
Were you men or were you gods
Or suburban brats whose lives were a fraud
Scum like you don't deserve to live free
I think you'd look good hangin' from a tree
No remorse when you dealt all of the spades
I hope you get raped in jail and die of aids
Murderer, Francois is a Murder
Who should live and who should die (3x)
that is a damn good idea...
anyway, the most frightening part of this to me is that i recall this being the plot of a jean claude van damme movie... when his movies are coming true, we're in SERIOUS trouble!
isnt your whole opposition to holding hollywood accountable for violence like this based on the fact that it passes the buck and gives a pass for poor parenting?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_slapping
ufortunately i know that too
I didn't know people were raised in churches.
I don't think it's a good idea at all. Do you think this rule should apply to all crimes committed by kids?
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I do. In fact, I'd even support it for "kids" up to age 21, but it's a no brainer for those below 18.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I cannot believe kids would watch a Van damme movie.....
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Tell me again except for the fact of a lesser amount of years in jail. How you can have the gall to videotape yourself killing somebody and then have the nerve to try to cop a lesser charge out of the deal. Unreal!
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that's because
"people=shit"
Sadly enough this is very true
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