Cat Stevens Refuses to Speak to Unveiled Women

rationalthoughtrationalthought Posts: 15
edited April 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/yusuf+islam+ignores+bare-headed+women_1026111

Muslim singer YUSUF ISLAM reportedly refused to speak with the female guides at a German event over the weekend (24-25MAR07) because they weren't veiled - despite accepting an honour for building bridges between Eastern and Western cultures. The star, formerly known as CAT STEVENS, received a special prize at the Echo Awards last night (25MAR07) in Berlin for his musical, social and political work and was praised as a bridge-builder between the West and the Islamic world. However, when the FATHER AND SON singer, 58, rehearsed his appearance the day before the prize giving (24MAR07), he acted rather narrow minded, according to German publication B.Z. When the hostesses approached Islam, who arrived with his management and his veiled wife FAEZIA, telling him that they were his guides, he simply ignored them and didn't even take a look at the women. Islam's manager explains, "Mr Islam doesn't speak with women except his wife. Least of all if they don't wear a headscarf. Things like that only happen via an intermediary."
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/yusuf+islam+ignores+bare-headed+women_1026111

    Muslim singer YUSUF ISLAM reportedly refused to speak with the female guides at a German event over the weekend (24-25MAR07) because they weren't veiled - despite accepting an honour for building bridges between Eastern and Western cultures. The star, formerly known as CAT STEVENS, received a special prize at the Echo Awards last night (25MAR07) in Berlin for his musical, social and political work and was praised as a bridge-builder between the West and the Islamic world. However, when the FATHER AND SON singer, 58, rehearsed his appearance the day before the prize giving (24MAR07), he acted rather narrow minded, according to German publication B.Z. When the hostesses approached Islam, who arrived with his management and his veiled wife FAEZIA, telling him that they were his guides, he simply ignored them and didn't even take a look at the women. Islam's manager explains, "Mr Islam doesn't speak with women except his wife. Least of all if they don't wear a headscarf. Things like that only happen via an intermediary."

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  • RockinInCanadaRockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Can do as he wants I guess, regardless of how pathetic it sounds and makes him appear.
  • Is it possible for something to be so outrageously stupid that it makes you physically angry?

    This is cutting it close..
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    There are plenty of people I try to ignore as well. This sounds a little ridiculous but whatever he wants to do...
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    He seems rather satirical.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    I dunno how much truth that has, I just saw a video of him in italy doing a performance, he also got a small italian style kiss from one of the female presenters. he did'nt run away.
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    Maybe he has really bad breath and didnt want to offend the ladies?
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  • _Crazy_Mary__Crazy_Mary_ Posts: 1,299
    This sounds like a case of sexual discrimination.
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • This sounds like an artist trying to grab some lost media spotlight.... :rolleyes:
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  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    I am not defending this by any means, but you should know that the strictest interpretations of Islam prescribe this behavior. Very religious muslim men in general will not look at a female's face or in her eyes. They will probably look down at the ground. Its what the religion prescribes. Again, not defending it, but putting it in context.
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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    that's stupid.



    love cat stevens' greatest hits album tho.
  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    he's confused.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    I don't think that story is true, he seems fine talking to a cute italian lady.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuSlRMpvftk
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    i actually listened to a lot of Cat Stevens growin up cause it was on my parents' 8 track player stereo system quite a bit.

    i just watched his version of peace train from the 2006 Nobel concert
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7iLPnDCQ1g

    and then had to go find a version from back in the 70s
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrbwhs2OM_w

    i know age will make you less energetic... but damn!
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    i actually listened to a lot of Cat Stevens growin up cause it was on my parents' 8 track player stereo system quite a bit.

    i just watched his version of peace train from the 2006 Nobel concert
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7iLPnDCQ1g

    and then had to go find a version from back in the 70s
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrbwhs2OM_w

    i know age will make you less energetic... but damn!

    I know! the levels are very different. but i guess age can do that, then again this was from south africa not that long ago.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTKxNkenrW0

    but of course it's far from his mid 20's flow.
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    i just watched his version of peace train from the 2006 Nobel concert
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7iLPnDCQ1g

    and then had to go find a version from back in the 70s
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrbwhs2OM_w

    i know age will make you less energetic... but damn!


    cocaine's a helluva a drug!
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    El_Kabong wrote:
    cocaine's a helluva a drug!

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    BTW, does anyone have his new album? I heard a song on Sirius the other day and it was pretty good. :)
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    LONDON -- The musician formerly known as Cat Stevens has denied reports that he refuses to talk to women who are not wearing veils.

    Stevens has gone by the name Yusuf Islam since he converted to Islam in the 1970s. His manager, Marc Marot, has denied reports that Islam refused to speak with women without veils at the Echo Awards in Germany last week.

    Marot said that the allegations are "baseless and stupid" and Islam has no issues with speaking with women who are not veiled.


    Marot said that some of the most important people to Islam's career are women.
    ----

    I guess it was fairly obvious that the reports were fake, funny how people like rationalthought so easily are willing to believe things like this then go around posting it.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    This story seems a bit stretched and embelished.

    I have several of Cat Steven's 70s albums and CDs. I don't care what he's into now, but I love his 70s music and listen to it often.



    Although, it is interesting to note that on that live version of Peace Train, with the african singers; Cat Stevens drops the word 'girl' from the end of the phrases which on the original recording had the the word "girl":D:D

    Could that be an indication of some kind of islam-rooted discrimination towards the female gender? Or maybe the 'girl" he was originally refering to in that song, does not wear a viel, so he had to drop it from the song? :D:D

    Stay tuned for further developments in this all so intriquing and mysterious situation.


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  • mookie9999mookie9999 Posts: 4,677
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    i actually listened to a lot of Cat Stevens growin up cause it was on my parents' 8 track player stereo system quite a bit.

    i just watched his version of peace train from the 2006 Nobel concert
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7iLPnDCQ1g

    and then had to go find a version from back in the 70s
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrbwhs2OM_w

    i know age will make you less energetic... but damn!
    Only watched the '06 version. I'm quite familiar with his '70's version. Although the '06 is more mellow, he still has an amazing voice, great performance!
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  • Daughter of JeremyDaughter of Jeremy Up here in my tree Posts: 181
    DinghyDog wrote:
    i think it is ridiculous how western women are expected to wear head scarves in Muslim countries, for fear of offending locals,

    but Muslim women in western countries can wear their burka's proud?

    by the same token, shouldn't we expect them in the western world NOT to wear their scarves?

    personally i think it strips them of their identity as people and as women.

    Don't those countries have actual laws and rules re: head scarves and what not? Can you imagine the fuss here in Oz if Johnny Howard tried to pass a law saying they weren't allowed to wear it? Remember all the fuss that was made when a few of the schools (in Sydney maybe??) tried to ban it? I myself agree with you, and am big on people integrating themselves into their new communties (and before people get their hackles raised, I don't mean that their culture should be abandoned entirely). I think for me, the biggest issue re: dress code in Australia is not that they wear their traditional clothes, but they then make the judgement that because western women choose to dress however they please (and appropriately for hot weather we have here!) that we are inviting men to rape us. And again, it isn't every muslim, but in one instance it was a rather pwerful one. Well, he used to be anyway! Not anymore thankfully.
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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    mookie9999 wrote:
    Only watched the '06 version. I'm quite familiar with his '70's version. Although the '06 is more mellow, he still has an amazing voice, great performance!

    Yeah, you know, after I watched the '06 version a 2nd time, I gotta say it ain't bad. I was just so used to the more upbeat version.
  • DMBloverDMBlover Posts: 33
    Talk about "veiled conformity".

    Irshad Manji knows whats up. From her upcoming PBS documentary, Faith Without Fear.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCmm0GiJPMc&mode=user&search=
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