I hope you motherfuckers are right
slightofjeff
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I recall reading a story in the days after the 2004 election about Vincent D'Onofrio, the "Law and Order" guy, and how he was so depressed about Bush's re-election that he couldn't even go into work for a month.
I thought, at the time, that was kind of an overemotional imbecile. I woke up this morning, however, kind of sympathizing with him -- and with the rest of you who figured four more years of Bush meant the end of the world as we knew it.
I'm not feeling quite as melodramatic as Vince was back in '04. Perhaps, since there's been a feel of inevitability about an Obama win for at least the past month, I'd grown used to the idea. It wasn't like I was blindsided.
However, I can say that, after this election of "hope" and "change:" The only thing that has changed is an increase in my hopelessness. As the father of a 2-month-old, I worry about what her world will be like for the next four (or eight) years.
I am worried Obama's tax plans are going to cost my family money, if not directly (and simply allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire will cost me $4,000. without Obama lifting a finger) then indirectly. Even if he only overtaxes The Rich ... well, The Rich are the people who pay my salary and sell me groceries ... so, it still affects my pocketbook.
I am worried Obama's extreme environmental policies are going to cause my gas and electric bills to skyrocket. Again, even if he doesn't raise my taxes ... well, this has the same net effect.
I am worried Obama's I'm-okay, you're-okay foreign policy will take us back to a time when it was easy to terrorize on American soil. Say what you want about Bush -- and you have plenty of legitimate fodder -- the one thing he was good at, since 9/11, was keeping shit from blowing up on this side of the pond.
But, now, after all that, I get to my point. The incendiary nature of this thread title aside, I really mean it:
I hope you Obama motherfuckers are right. From the bottom of my heart, I hope that.
Unlike some folks, I don't think of politics as game, where my team needs to beat your team. Obama won the election. If he sucks, we're all losers. If he succeeds, we're all winners.
I want him to succeed. I need him to succeed.
So, I hope I am wrong about everything I believe. I hope the worldview under which I've existed for my entire life is shattered.
It's an odd feeling: I hope, sincerely, that everything I know is wrong. And that all you other motherfuckers are right.
Today, it's the only thing keeping me from pulling a D'Onofrio.
I thought, at the time, that was kind of an overemotional imbecile. I woke up this morning, however, kind of sympathizing with him -- and with the rest of you who figured four more years of Bush meant the end of the world as we knew it.
I'm not feeling quite as melodramatic as Vince was back in '04. Perhaps, since there's been a feel of inevitability about an Obama win for at least the past month, I'd grown used to the idea. It wasn't like I was blindsided.
However, I can say that, after this election of "hope" and "change:" The only thing that has changed is an increase in my hopelessness. As the father of a 2-month-old, I worry about what her world will be like for the next four (or eight) years.
I am worried Obama's tax plans are going to cost my family money, if not directly (and simply allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire will cost me $4,000. without Obama lifting a finger) then indirectly. Even if he only overtaxes The Rich ... well, The Rich are the people who pay my salary and sell me groceries ... so, it still affects my pocketbook.
I am worried Obama's extreme environmental policies are going to cause my gas and electric bills to skyrocket. Again, even if he doesn't raise my taxes ... well, this has the same net effect.
I am worried Obama's I'm-okay, you're-okay foreign policy will take us back to a time when it was easy to terrorize on American soil. Say what you want about Bush -- and you have plenty of legitimate fodder -- the one thing he was good at, since 9/11, was keeping shit from blowing up on this side of the pond.
But, now, after all that, I get to my point. The incendiary nature of this thread title aside, I really mean it:
I hope you Obama motherfuckers are right. From the bottom of my heart, I hope that.
Unlike some folks, I don't think of politics as game, where my team needs to beat your team. Obama won the election. If he sucks, we're all losers. If he succeeds, we're all winners.
I want him to succeed. I need him to succeed.
So, I hope I am wrong about everything I believe. I hope the worldview under which I've existed for my entire life is shattered.
It's an odd feeling: I hope, sincerely, that everything I know is wrong. And that all you other motherfuckers are right.
Today, it's the only thing keeping me from pulling a D'Onofrio.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
for the least they could possibly do
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Then again, up is down for me today
for the least they could possibly do
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I can just feel that bipartisan healin'!
and when was that? and what makes you think youre safer now? on 9/10 im sure you felt ubersafe in your house, yeah?? do you feel that safe now?
before 9/11 the biggest terrorist attack on american soil was enacted by an AMERICAN citizen. remember that.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I don't think anyone will be calling him a moron since he made valid political points. People probably called you a moron because you used "he has a Muslim background" as a reason he will be bad for the country.
So to recap: slightofjeff = valid points, goo = moronic points
EDIT: Just because a lot of people here have similiar opinions it doesn't make them sheep, you can find thousands of message boards were the majority are republicans
eV: 8/4/08, 8/5/08, 6/21/11
SG: 10/4/08<-- MET STONE!!!
slightofjeff, I hope the people are right too, and I'm quietly confident that Obama was the better man for the job, not necessarily the best man but then I'm more concerned, as a non-American, about how the US President will work out with regards to global action, your tax raises aren't a pressing concern for me, I'll admit that. It's got to suck, we are feeling the pinch over here too, but for me, this election has meant, without wanting to sound like an Obama advert, real hope for change in terms of some of the shitty stuff happening right now in the world. I hope he works out for you guys on the home level too.
eV: 8/4/08, 8/5/08, 6/21/11
SG: 10/4/08<-- MET STONE!!!
I'll say what I want. and if you're one of the many easily offended pussies on this board that doesn't it like it when people voice their opinions that differ from yours, it makes me feel even better for saying what I said, exactly how I said it. you act as if I came here saying things like "that damn n**ger Osama Obama whatever-his-name-is ain't got no right being our president with a name like that" and all the other backwoods, disgusting shit I've heard from others who have actually said it! my concerns are valid, whether you agree with them or not. why don't every one of you get together and SUE ME for coming to a place that is supposed to encourage freedom of opinion and speech and doing just that. it's easy to gang up on someone like me when you know most everyone else around you has the opposite mindset to make me feel like I'm wrong for thinking the nation has made a poor decision. I've stated why I think so, and I'm sticking to it. and if I end up being wrong, then awesome. but if I'm right, don't start crying when you realize how fucked America's hardest workers about to be in the next couple of years. enjoy your handout, loser.
Calm down Sally.
Do you not want to leave your children a better place to live in? During the Bush administration the environmental policies took a giant step backward. The way to do this is to speed up development of clean energies while protecting what if left of species and habitats. So much can be done, but it takes someone who cares about the issues to make it happen. For example, just look at the popularity of alternative cars since the gas prices soared. This could and should have been done decades ago, but it wasn't a priority. It doesn't need to be costly, in fact there is a huge market there that just needs to be tapped and with some incentives, I believe it will.
As for your assertion that I'm treating you like some raving racist, I never said that you were equating him to Osama, that's obviously on your mind though. I merely noted that he is not a muslim and that he did not get sworn in with his hand on a Koran, although even if he had I don't see why that would be a reason why he shouldn't be president, the United States being as it is a country comprised of many ethnic backgrounds since its inception. To treat any one person born on American soil like a foreigner because their father was a NON-PRACTISING muslim is to spit in the face of America as a concept.
Ps, I'm sorry to the OP for derailing the thread.
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Would you have felt better about your future if McCain was elected yesterday? Seriously just asking?
You are right we at the end will all be winner or will all be losers and I too hope that you are wrong, I'm hopeful and for the sake or your family, my family and everyone elses family and for the sake of our country I hope every single American supporter or not holds President elect Obama to what he has promised.
That was a great post
Your thread and slightofjeff's thread are nothing like each other, please don't get confused.
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can't you read? I acknowledged that my post was DIFFERENT from his.
no I meant in the way that he has valid and well thought points and you have bone headed arguments and lies to offer on your thread... again please don't get confused...
And no matter what you think about Obama, you all have to admit that we've elected a candidate with very little experience. Just 5 years ago he was an Illinois State Senator and hardly anyone knew who he was. Now he is President. He is a good speaker, but frankly I've seen high school and college kids who can speak just as well. That doesn't make up for the fact that he has no experience dealing with foreign policy or the economy. This is not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact. He may wind up being a great President, but knowledge and charisma do not make up for actual real-time experience. You can learn everything there is to know about painting, for example, but the only way you get good at it is by actually doing it. John McCain is dead right when he says that this is not a time for on the job training. I really hope Obama knows what he's doing.
-Reagan
Well spoken we shall see how he does. This job was going to be momentous for whomever landed the job and now the Obama has it he'll need ALL the help that can be made available to him.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I agree with McCain would not be another Bush. I've said before that these two candidates were much better than the last two. But would Slightofjeff feel better about his ecomonic future if he had been elected yesterday?
America was sick to death of Bush and had to vote opposite. Obama gives me hope. Hope that the Republican party can return to conservative again. McCain, imo, is a democrat. Bush is the same. His whole administration was fairly liberal.
I'm not excited about paying higher taxes or an increased electric bill, but I think this will give us a chance to put forth an actual Republican next time around and not a RINO.
The OP's post is a breath of fresh air in between some pretty ordinary name calling posts the last few days. Let's not turn it into a slanging much.
It is, in fact, not a matter of fact. This particular part is wrong. You may not think he has enough experience, and that is your prerogative. But Obama has had experience on both foreign policy and economic issues during his time in the U.S. Senate, both in terms of legislation he sponsored and legislation he voted upon. For example, there's the legislation regarding black market nuclear weapons he sponsored with Dick Lugar. The African aid legislation he sponsored, the Iraq legislation he's voted upon, etc. etc. So, I understand the argument from those who believe Obama does not have enough experience. However, to say he has none is simply not supported by his record.