Survivor Segregation Season

qtegirl

Did anyone watch Survivor last night? What did you think of it?

For me, the most striking part was the stereotypes. I don't mean one group making assumptions about the others, but the participants attributed the stereotypes to themselves.

For example, in the Latino group, one guy said something like, we're going to do well because most latinos come from the caribbean islands and south america and we're used to the weather. (at least that's how I remember it).

And the African American group, one of the guys said about the group needing a leader: we might have a hard time cuz black people don't like to be bossed around.

I think it's interesting that it was the people within the groups who were assigning to themselves these stereotypical attributes. What does that say about us and our race relations?

***disclaimer: I don't remember what was said exactly by the participants, I can only write what I remember from last night.

farfromglorified

Did any of the tribes attempt to enslave another?

qtegirl

farfromglorified wrote:

Did any of the tribes attempt to enslave another?

No, that'll happen after the merge.



But seriously...

exhausted

a good chunk of them are actors too.

the whole thing is rediculous.

jlew24asu

I think this is a very bad idea. I didnt watch the show nor do I plan too. I think mark burrnet is only trying to revive the show from bad ratings.

I really wish the race lines would be dropped forever. The race issue really seemed to be getting better compared to say 10...5 ...years ago. this is a step backwards.

Bathgate66

in case there are any fans, we have this thread going in the AET .

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=215502&page=2

Pickr

I'm a sucker for that show. In the end all the groups merge together anyways and race will play no part. They claim it is "the most controversial Survivor yet" which is just PR bullshit.

RockinInCanada

Pickr wrote:

I'm a sucker for that show. In the end all the groups merge together anyways and race will play no part. They claim it is "the most controversial Survivor yet" which is just PR bullshit.

I agree....actually I see no problem with it all.....it is just a twist to attract viewership that is all.....like Pickr said it will last two weeks than they will become two groups.....

qtegirl

Pickr wrote:

I'm a sucker for that show. In the end all the groups merge together anyways and race will play no part. They claim it is "the most controversial Survivor yet" which is just PR bullshit.

I agree that it's all a PR move, and they are just trying to revitalize dying ratings... but, that aside, I still found it interesting to watch the contestants. I didn't much care about who won/lost immunity or got exiled, or whatever else they do.

The words that were coming out of their mouths (and the show editors actually let us hear), we eye-opening.

even flow?

It was hillllllllarius!!!

Brought out every stereotype you could think of.........And boy, do I love stereotyping as there is so much truth to it and it only isn't seen by the race being typed.


Blacks don't like to camp or be outdoors in the wilderness and it showed.

The Orientals were good at piecing the boat together and putting the puzzles together and then they won the challenge. Surprise, surprise.

Whites just making sure they didn't lose and getting ready to plot against each other. Just look at the dude who took the chicken. Looked good on him that he got exiled.

Now I don't watch this show at all. But the premise got me to look. They could have tossed in a Jewish and Arab contigent to really peek my interest. But they will only go so far.

acutejam

Well, my 7-year old daughter was a tough sell. What an awkward conversation for someone growing up in a pure multicultural environment. How to explain that it's just not right to "segregate" people and yet here they do it on our favorite show!

"Daddy, why are they breaking them up like that?"

She got the women vs men break up last season, but this just astounded her. It was a testament to her colorless veiw of the world that she just didn't undestand the contestants reservations about it, just completely alien to her -- they're all just people aren't they?

It was a like a step backwards in her education, like "Ah ha! Maybe we should think about doing that on the playground!" (She didn't say that, but jeez!)

So then a little history lesson ensues, we talk about stereotypes and what not, she knows it's just not cool to do this....

"But why are THEY doin it?"

jlew24asu

acutejam wrote:

Well, my 7-year old daughter was a tough sell. What an awkward conversation for someone growing up in a pure multicultural environment. How to explain that it's just not right to "segregate" people and yet here they do it on our favorite show!

"Daddy, why are they breaking them up like that?"

She got the women vs men break up last season, but this just astounded her. It was a testament to her colorless veiw of the world that she just didn't undestand the contestants reservations about it, just completely alien to her -- they're all just people aren't they?

It was a like a step backwards in her education, like "Ah ha! Maybe we should think about doing that on the playground!" (She didn't say that, but jeez!)

So then a little history lesson ensues, we talk about stereotypes and what not, she knows it's just not cool to do this....

"But why are THEY doin it?"

Perfect example on why this is more then just a "PR stunt". sure it is being done for ratings but kids dont understand that. they see it as it really is.

Derrick

Television is stupid.

VictoryGin

qtegirl wrote:

Did anyone watch Survivor last night? What did you think of it?

For me, the most striking part was the stereotypes. I don't mean one group making assumptions about the others, but the participants attributed the stereotypes to themselves.

For example, in the Latino group, one guy said something like, we're going to do well because most latinos come from the caribbean islands and south america and we're used to the weather. (at least that's how I remember it).

I don't understand how that's a stereotype. If people live in an area with similar climate, then yeah, they probably would be used to that. Unless was this guy from Canada or something? But regardless it doesn't make much sense because there usually is a distinction between Latin and South America. At least here there is.

VictoryGin

acutejam wrote:

Well, my 7-year old daughter was a tough sell. What an awkward conversation for someone growing up in a pure multicultural environment. How to explain that it's just not right to "segregate" people and yet here they do it on our favorite show!

"Daddy, why are they breaking them up like that?"

She got the women vs men break up last season, but this just astounded her. It was a testament to her colorless veiw of the world that she just didn't undestand the contestants reservations about it, just completely alien to her -- they're all just people aren't they?

It was a like a step backwards in her education, like "Ah ha! Maybe we should think about doing that on the playground!" (She didn't say that, but jeez!)

So then a little history lesson ensues, we talk about stereotypes and what not, she knows it's just not cool to do this....

"But why are THEY doin it?"

So dividing along gender lines doesn't warrant the same concern?

rebornFixer

No offense, but people need to stop watching this show. Let it die already.

even flow?

reborncareerist wrote:

No offense, but people need to stop watching this show. Let it die already.

I feel like I am friends with the whole gang of castaways after one episode. It is almost like "myspace" except that I can hear them all talk and see them move.

acutejam

VictoryGin wrote:

So dividing along gender lines doesn't warrant the same concern?

Nope. I'm not concerned becaue it wasn't a "new" idea to her, something to work through yes, but not a new concept -- like segregation.

In 2nd grade boys play with boys, girls play with girls -- we're not quite past that yet. She understood how the tribes would be divided like that - boy/girl. They all still go and learn together in the same classroom.

Out on the playground she just doesn't see the racial divisions.

rebornFixer

even flow? wrote:

I feel like I am friends with the whole gang of castaways after one episode. It is almost like "myspace" except that I can hear them all talk and see them move.

Still laughing at your last post, by the way ... Anyone want to take bets that one of the challenges is going to involve math?

VictoryGin

even flow? wrote:

I feel like I am friends with the whole gang of castaways after one episode. It is almost like "myspace" except that I can hear them all talk and see them move.

Oh, ef! are you on myspace?!

VictoryGin

acutejam wrote:

Nope. I'm not concerned becaue it wasn't a "new" idea to her, something to work through yes, but not a new concept -- like segregation.

In 2nd grade boys play with boys, girls play with girls -- we're not quite past that yet. She understood how the tribes would be divided like that - boy/girl. They all still go and learn together in the same classroom.

Out on the playground she just doesn't see the racial divisions.

Ah, I see. Thanks.