Our potentially new Defense Secretary

kenny olav
kenny olav Posts: 3,319
edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
I did some quick research on Robert Gates and discovered he's a typical Bush appointee.

He served as Director of the CIA under his father's presidency, to top off a 26 year career in the CIA.

In the tradition of other Dubya appointees before him (namely Elliott Abrams, Otto Reich, John Negroponte and John Poindexter) Gates was implicated for involvement in the Iran Contra Affair, during which he was our esteemed Deputy Director of the CIA. But of course, like the rest of them, he never got convicted of anything.

Anyone else got some info on him?
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    I don't have any info, but in respect to his appointment - what did you expect? Does anyone expect this administration to place anybody with any competence in key positions?
  • dangerboy
    dangerboy Posts: 1,569
    hence, the old saying "careful what you wish for"


    ebay isn't evil people are


    The South is Much Obliged
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    This is part of the reason that I couldn't understand the dancing in the streets over Rumsfeld quitting. The successor probably won't be much different.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • evenkat
    evenkat Posts: 380
    He will have to be confirmed by the Senate and that may not be so easy now.
    "...believe in lies...to get by...it's divine...whoa...oh, you know what its like..."
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    know1 wrote:
    This is part of the reason that I couldn't understand the dancing in the streets over Rumsfeld quitting. The successor probably won't be much different.


    He couldn't be any worse.
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    cutback wrote:
    I don't have any info, but in respect to his appointment - what did you expect? Does anyone expect this administration to place anybody with any competence in key positions?


    No competence? You say this now.......


    I've heard numberous people like you contend that this administration controls not only the entire world's oil supply, but the world itself.

    That's not the definition of incompetence.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    He couldn't be any worse.


    That's because he isn't on the job yet.


    Give yourself a week and you'll think of something......
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    My bad, got mixed up on what I was writing and where.
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    That's because he isn't on the job yet.


    Give yourself a week and you'll think of something......


    Well, if he does something that is a bad move, I'm going to say something about it. Fuck sitting back and just watching.
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    Well, if he does something that is a bad move, I'm going to say something about it. Fuck sitting back and just watching.


    lol You're immediate response of "if he does something that is a bad move" just tells me that you have no intentions of looking for anything good this guy does.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • dangerboy
    dangerboy Posts: 1,569
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    No competence? You say this now.......


    I've heard numberous people like you contend that this administration controls not only the entire world's oil supply, but the world itself.

    That's not the definition of incompetence.

    this is the one that always vexes them: how can W simultaneously be an evil genius and an illiterate hillbilly?


    ebay isn't evil people are


    The South is Much Obliged
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    lol You're immediate response of "if he does something that is a bad move" just tells me that you have no intentions of looking for anything good this guy does.


    Really? Then you're blind. Fool.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    No competence? You say this now.......


    I've heard numberous people like you contend that this administration controls not only the entire world's oil supply, but the world itself.

    That's not the definition of incompetence.
    No, I say this all the time. What has this administration not fucked up? And before you lump me in with some group, let it be known that even with the change we have experienced today, I do not believe anything will change and unfortunately it might get worse.
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    Did I say numberous?
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    cutback wrote:
    No, I say this all the time. What has this administration not fucked up? And before you lump me in with some group, let it be known that even with the change we have experienced today, I do not believe anything will change and unfortunately it might get worse.


    I know. There are no liberals, anywhere.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    Did I say numberous?
    I wasn't going to correct you.:)
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    I know. There are no liberals, anywhere.
    Huh?
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    Political bickering makes my mind numb at times. May have been what I was referring to.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    Political bickering makes my mind numb at times. May have been what I was referring to.
    I like that. "This arguing is making me numberous."
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    He's one of Bush Snr's men, keeping supervision over the neocons (of which he isn't one). He's actually a professional, in marked contrast with Rumsfeld.

    Gates kept his hands clean during the Iran contra scandal, when many around him fell, and he is a man who understands Intelligence (not necessarily a pre-requisite for becoming CIA Director).

    Bush hasn't any choice but to go back to his father's political peers, for help and experience. The neocons are fucked.


    Edit: Forgot my main point. He's there, to engineer a withdrawal. In the meantime, Dubya will be told to shut up, and catch up with Rove in the reading competition.

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