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Mike Gravel is KICKING ASS at the Dems' debate!

kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
edited April 2007 in A Moving Train
Yes!! He's even better than I thought he'd be.

MUCH better than Nader was too.

It feels good to have someone to vote for.

More later...


The Democrats' debate is on MSNBC right now.



EDIT:

Montage of clips of Gravel from the debate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gMlHv2lDqA
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  • TrauTrau Posts: 188
    He's undisciplined.
    In the shadow of the light from a black sun
    Frigid statue standing icy blue and numb
    Where are the frost giants Ive begged for protection?
    I'm freezing

    Are you afraid, afraid to die
    Don't be afraid, afraid to try
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Kucinich has got some good answers too :D
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Trau wrote:
    He's undisciplined.


    He's got honest passion, and I don't think it's uncontrolled. These are times to get angry... and FIGHT!
  • TrauTrau Posts: 188
    No one's going to vote for you if they think you're easily unhinged.
    In the shadow of the light from a black sun
    Frigid statue standing icy blue and numb
    Where are the frost giants Ive begged for protection?
    I'm freezing

    Are you afraid, afraid to die
    Don't be afraid, afraid to try
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Trau wrote:
    No one's going to vote for you if they think you're easily unhinged.

    see: howard dean.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    errrr... last few Gravel comments not so good... he needs to explain himself better. should have mentioned terrorism in some way.
  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    passion = sounding crazy in a soundbite ;)

    sad, but true.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    he should have said something like "if we treat the rest of the world as equals, as we should, then we wouldn't have terrorism" which I believe is what he meant.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    passion = sounding crazy in a soundbite ;)

    sad, but true.


    well, he hasn't exactly said anything like
    "YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRH!!!"

    :D

    ah, Howard Dean still cracks me up.
  • Milhouse VanHoutenMilhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    gravel came within a hair's breadth of having a nutty a little earlier.
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    wow, did Barak fumble on that two-city terror attack question pretty badly, and didn't answer the question at all.
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • otis mcflusterotis mcfluster Posts: 536
    Gravel is an ass and shouldn't be invited to the next debate.

    Also, by the time you get to vote Kenny , Gravel will be long gone.
  • Milhouse VanHoutenMilhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    http://wonkette.com/politics/pointless-exercises-in-bullshittery-dept%27/more-live-blogging-255714.php
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    nice. gravel is redeeming himself on his previous lack of comments about terrorism.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    otis mcfluster wrote:
    Gravel is an ass and shouldn't be invited to the next debate.

    Also, by the time you get to vote Kenny , Gravel will be long gone.


    i don't expect gravel to win. but i expect him to fight til the end.


    also, a lot of people don't like hillary clinton and call her much worse than an "ass", but should they decide who gets to debate and who doesn't?
  • otis mcflusterotis mcfluster Posts: 536
    Hillary is giggling with joy that Dennis baited Barack.

    This is good stuff.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    I'm waiting for Gravel to break out "Who am I? Why am I here?" "This nation is in gridlock!"
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • Milhouse VanHoutenMilhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    gravel and kucinich both addressed obama directly, kucinich on iran and gravel on nukes. hee hee, what a wacky fuckin' debate.

    gravel won't even be elected the team captain of his rest home shuffleboard team.
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    That was interesting.

    Gravel: Kinda like every-family's grandpa who farts and yells a lot. But I sure loved what he had to say.

    Kucinich: Love. Peace. Flowers. And a very tall wife.

    Dodd: No neck. After a while, Billy and I started referring to him as the "Dick in the Suit".

    Biden: He impressed me tonight. But his mouth will get him into trouble in the long (year and a half) run.

    Richardson: I stopped counting how many times he pointed his finger, and wondered how many times he might pull a trigger.

    Edwards: This man has only one look on his face. The raised eyebrows-raise my hand a few times-and thou shall take me seriously look. His face speaks louder than his words.

    Hillary: Ditto on the above, but her face is more used to smiling a lot. Hence, the built-in Florence Henderson cheek bones (no comment on the Anne B. Davis wardrobe). Hillary has only one tone of voice. Strident. Tonight, all she did was repeat her newspaper quotes and mention a lot of words that "skeered" me: Control. Rule. When (I am president).

    Obama: My man....my man, you looked nervous. The cameras showed the sweat on your upper lip before the debate even began. You started out a little weak. The cameras made your ears look gargantuan.

    I'm still trying to understand the light bulb thing, but I think you did very well on most of the other issues. At the end of the debate, you said what you had to say and you were strong. But, that's me. I'm sure all the pundits and papers and plodders (oops, bloggers)....and Pearl Jammers....will have tons to say.

    All in all, it was an interesting night.
    Feels Good Inc.
  • Milhouse VanHoutenMilhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    if i were dennis kucinich, i'd retire from congress immediately and spend the rest of my days smelling my wife's hair and worshipping every inch of her alabaster skin... mmm yeah.
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Milhouse VanHouten wrote:
    if i were dennis kucinich, i'd retire from congress immediately and spend the rest of my days smelling my wife's hair and worshipping every inch of her alabaster skin... mmm yeah.

    ...sits down next to him with her shoulders hunched, in order to make their heads appear on the same planet. That's a gift.
    Feels Good Inc.
  • Milhouse VanHoutenMilhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    Bu2 wrote:
    ...sits down next to him with her shoulders hunched, in order to make their heads appear on the same planet. That's a gift.

    Lordy. His congressional office must have a cloning machine. I'm waiting for the interview to be over so she can stand up, pick him up and place him in one of those papoose carriers, then walk away.

    I thought Obama did okay, but definitely not great. At this point, all he has to do is not completely screw up. Even Joe Scarbuttle knows that expectations are to the moon for his debate performance. He did a good job of keeping it rocksteady.
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    i don't expect gravel to win. but i expect him to fight til the end.


    also, a lot of people don't like hillary clinton and call her much worse than an "ass", but should they decide who gets to debate and who doesn't?

    i'm watching on tivo right now..........just watched his first comments........i love it...............the guy doesn't have a snowballs chance but at least it wasn't canned answers (i'm looking at you hilary, brack) :)
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    Kucinich made obama look like a fucking tool with his iran comebacks. god it just sucks people in america will slurp up obama. kuncinich could do so well as president and i truly believe that. the man has been opposed to the war from day one unlike everyone else on there. i loved the old dude from alaska, but he doesnt have a chance in hell. what sealed it for me was when kucinich pulled out his little constitution book, it connected with me so much.
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    I like the way you think, Bu2. I pretty much have the same opinions on each candidate.

    I definately think Gravel is a little brash. Maybe a little too brash. If you wanted to spin it, you could call him Trumanesque. :D


    edit: Trumanesque, Without Nukes.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Bu2 wrote:
    Gravel: Kinda like every-family's grandpa who farts and yells a lot. But I sure loved what he had to say.

    That's a perfect description. :)
    Bu2 wrote:
    Kucinich: Love. Peace. Flowers. And a very tall wife.

    Yeah but so far he's the only one i like
    Bu2 wrote:
    Dodd: No neck. After a while, Billy and I started referring to him as the "Dick in the Suit".

    Can't we just call him Dick
    Bu2 wrote:
    Biden: He impressed me tonight. But his mouth will get him into trouble in the long (year and a half) run.

    See Dodd
    Bu2 wrote:
    Richardson: I stopped counting how many times he pointed his finger, and wondered how many times he might pull a trigger.

    I think he's animatronic. :)
    Bu2 wrote:
    Edwards: This man has only one look on his face. The raised eyebrows-raise my hand a few times-and thou shall take me seriously look. His face speaks louder than his words.

    His story of his dad was pathetic....not the story but him telling it with that phony aw-shucks way
    Bu2 wrote:
    Hillary: Ditto on the above, but her face is more used to smiling a lot. Hence, the built-in Florence Henderson cheek bones (no comment on the Anne B. Davis wardrobe). Hillary has only one tone of voice. Strident. Tonight, all she did was repeat her newspaper quotes and mention a lot of words that "skeered" me: Control. Rule. When (I am president).

    See Biden
    Bu2 wrote:
    Obama: My man....my man, you looked nervous. The cameras showed the sweat on your upper lip before the debate even began. You started out a little weak. The cameras made your ears look gargantuan.

    I'm still trying to understand the light bulb thing, but I think you did very well on most of the other issues. At the end of the debate, you said what you had to say and you were strong. But, that's me. I'm sure all the pundits and papers and plodders (oops, bloggers)....and Pearl Jammers....will have tons to say.

    Ah Barack baby............what happened?...........when I watched you at the convention in '04 it was "wow intelligent, clear talk" .......and now the handlers have gotten to you and now it's canned answers.....
    Bu2 wrote:
    All in all, it was an interesting night.

    Interesting indeed..........still watching but it's fun......:)
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    Yes!! He's even better than I thought he'd be.

    MUCH better than Nader was too.

    It feels good to have someone to vote for.

    More later...


    The Democrats' debate is on MSNBC right now.

    I missed this debate. but really, "MUCH" better than nader? how so? I mean speech wise? nader sometimes slurs his words kinda thing?

    Since i've not watched this debate I can't be too sure, but if nader was in, I think he would've made everyone look weak. unless gravel is really that good.

    and dennis, he's too short, he could have the power of gandhi/malcolmX and che put together and people still would not care about him because he's short. even if his wife is kinda good looking.

    remember, this is american politics.
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    MrBrian wrote:
    I missed this debate.....



    .......remember, this is american politics.


    ???
    Feels Good Inc.
  • deadmosquitodeadmosquito Posts: 729
    gravel is a complete nutjob. he will never have a chance at the office. i can't believe they allowed him on television.
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    deadmosquito wrote:
    gravel is a complete nutjob. he will never have a chance at the office. i can't believe they allowed him on television.


    ; )
    Feels Good Inc.
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