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Democratic Presidential Debate - Sunday June 3 @ 7pm EDT on CNN

kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
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What else are you going to do on Sunday night??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Presidential_Debates%2C_2008#June_3.2C_2007_-_Manchester.2C_New_Hampshire
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  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    hopefully Kucinich and Gravel stick it to the rest of the coporate hacks disguised as candidates!

    End the War and Bring em Home! Only Gravel and Kucinich are saying that.

    If you want to end the war, those are the only choices!
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,051
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    What else are you going to do on Sunday night??

    Yankees vs. Red Sox - It'll be better seeing hardballs thrown than the softballs from CNN.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    I'm hoping Chris Dodd will break out onto the stage dressed as Gene Simmons, and then Joe Biden follows as Ace Frehley, John Edwards as Paul Stanley and Bill Richardson as Peter Criss. Together, they will Shout It, Shout It, Shout It Out Loud!!!
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    thank god this will be done in time for the sopranos.

    oh chrissy, i miss you.
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    VictoryGin wrote:
    thank god this will be done in time for the sopranos.

    right on

    then the red sox yankees after that for me... i have it all planned out :cool:

    sometimes rain is a good excuse to waste time...
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I would rather watch paint dry. Not one of the Democratic canidadtes excites me. I'll wait for Tuesday's Republican debate to see if Ron Paul puts the smack down on Guiliani.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    mammasan wrote:
    I would rather watch paint dry. Not one of the Democratic canidadtes excites me. I'll wait for Tuesday's Republican debate to see if Ron Paul puts the smack down on Guiliani.
    lol

    Not even to see Kucinich standing on a box? :D Or Hilary pass the buck??
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    I wish I had cable. Dennis always gets me fired up. :D
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    mammasan wrote:
    I would rather watch paint dry. Not one of the Democratic canidadtes excites me. I'll wait for Tuesday's Republican debate to see if Ron Paul puts the smack down on Guiliani.
    HAHA
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I wish I had cable. Dennis always gets me fired up. :D
    Me too! :D I love his communication skills...for example, he says "as the President of the United States..." at the drop of a hat and on just about every topic, which is utilizing the power of suggestion. He's implanting the idea of him as the President in people's minds. :)
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    angelica wrote:
    Me too! :D I love his communication skills...for example, he says "as the President of the United States..." at the drop of a hat and on just about every topic, which is utilizing the power of suggestion. He's implanting the idea of him as the President in people's minds. :)

    And he is such a gentleman. He never speaks ill of the other Dems (something that I have such a time with :p). He speaks with confidence and thoroughly explains his view and his plans without resorting to vague phrases that don't really say anything.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    angelica wrote:
    lol

    Not even to see Kucinich standing on a box? :D Or Hilary pass the buck??

    Nope not even for that. The Democrats offer much of the same shit every year. None of them have any intentions to do what needs to be done to fix our federal government. Their answer for an over grown inept government is more government. I may agree with them on many other issues but untill I see a Democrat fight for a large reduction in the size and scope of our federal government they will never get my vote.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    angelica wrote:
    Me too! :D I love his communication skills...for example, he says "as the President of the United States..." at the drop of a hat and on just about every topic, which is utilizing the power of suggestion. He's implanting the idea of him as the President in people's minds. :)
    yes i notice that alot tonight and he always spoke clearly and didnt fumble around with his words
    Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Funny comment, and one that got the biggest laugh of the night:

    On diplomacy:

    Hilary: "...we've had an administration that doesn't believe in diplomacy. You know they have every so often Condi Rice go around the world and show up somewhere and make a speech, and occasionally, they even send Dick Cheney and that's hardly diplomatic in my view." (audience laughs) :D
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    mammasan wrote:
    I'll wait for Tuesday's Republican debate to see if Ron Paul puts the smack down on Guiliani.

    Pretty much the only reason to watch the Republican Debate!
  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    who woN?
  • bryn_cmbsbryn_cmbs Posts: 407
    Cheguevara6 wrote:
    who woN?


    CNN says Biden

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/04/debate.analysis/index.html
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    bryn_cmbs wrote:
    CNN says Biden

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/04/debate.analysis/index.html

    Interesting.
    He definitely stood up more in this debate.

    What I like about Biden is that he is more of no-bullshit kind of politician.
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    I missed the debate. Does anybody know if they're going to replay it? I can't find any info one way or the other.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    My impression of last nights debate...not in any order/ranking

    1) Dennis Kucinich - was his normal self. He sticks to his guns (or lack of guns). Wants to be the Peace President that never uses the military. While his intentions are good, that makes him look very weak next to the other candidates. He seems like he could be used and abused. His other opinions make him seem like he should be running as the Socialist party candidate.

    2) Joe Biden - he certainly took a stand on everything and sounded very convinced of his own positions. He used the Democratic process as an excuse to abandon your views and morals. Thsi is probably true much of the time but it also made him seem too much like a Washington insider (as he is).

    3) Chris Dodd - seemed a little disjointed to me. Trying to focus on providing security first and foremost. I don't think he came across very well.

    4) Mike Gravel - was the most honest in giving his answers...like Dennis...probably because they know they have no shot to win. I liked the guys manner and thought he made some terrific points. It's funny, he had the comment of the night in my opinion and I've already forgotten what it was. ;)

    5) Bill richardson - he let me down. I was looking forward to hearing him but he did not do well I don't think. He rambled, seemed disjointed and wasn't clear. He might as well save his money and head back to New Mexico where he has been a very good governor.

    6) Hillary Clinton - presented herself very well. Was very focused on attacking Bush and republicans, trying to stay above the fray of cutting down her Dems. Obviously disagrees with John edwards a bunch, highlighted wehn they were discussing whether or not "the War on Terror" i simple a bumper sticker. She actualyl said we are safer now then we were. A little boring debate for her I think, but then again I don't like her ans was trying my hardest to watch without a bias.

    7) Barrack Obama - stumbled a bit at times. He is a very clear speaker when focused. He has laid out specific plans which is good (even if you don't like them). He seemed to show his inexperience a little, which can be good if taken as being 'fresh', but it seemed a little more 'green' to me.

    8) John Edwards - I'm not a big fan...but I thought he won the debate. He was clear, forceful, complimentary at times, seemed to be well aware of everything and have specifics in mind. He 'attacked' CLinton and Obama for their votes against the funding without really speaking about it. Called it out for what it was, a political move on both their parts. Very impressive night for John....scary good in my opinion.


    As far as issues go...the immigration plan gets me fired up...it says if you can do something illegal and get away with it for long enough, we'll eventually just forget about it. National Health care done right would be good...some of the ideas last night scare me though as I don't want to be a socialist country.

    Also, while it sounds nice and easy, it pisses me off that they always talk abotu taking away the tax cuts from the rich...why are they 2nd class citizend to the politicians? It's because there aren't enough of them to vote against them. Kinda like using cigarette taxes...it just dumb, but oh well.
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    cincybearcat wrote:
    6) Hillary Clinton - presented herself very well. Was very focused on attacking Bush and republicans, trying to stay above the fray of cutting down her Dems. Obviously disagrees with John edwards a bunch, highlighted wehn they were discussing whether or not "the War on Terror" i simple a bumper sticker. She actualyl said we are safer now then we were. A little boring debate for her I think, but then again I don't like her ans was trying my hardest to watch without a bias.
    What I found disconcerting about Hilary, is that when she was directly confronted about her own faulty actions re: the Iraq war, she turned over the "blame" to George Bush. I am not at all comfortable with the idea of any kind of potential President who openly dodges accountability so blatantly, for the world to see, in such early stages. It is a glaring warning sign.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    angelica wrote:
    What I found disconcerting about Hilary, is that when she was directly confronted about her own faulty actions re: the Iraq war, she turned over the "blame" to George Bush. I am not at all comfortable with the idea of any kind of potential President who openly dodges accountability so blatantly, for the world to see, in such early stages. It is a glaring warning sign.

    You're right.

    I think the comment I lked from teh guy from Alaska was about accepting blame and admitting when you are wrong and then going forward.
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    cincybearcat wrote:
    You're right.

    I think the comment I lked from teh guy from Alaska was about accepting blame and admitting when you are wrong and then going forward.
    Yeah, that is so important, especially for politicians who want to lead the country in a new direction. More of the same, dressed up in a new suit won't much help. In that way, Hilary was the only one that really alarmed me. I believe there were two questions directly addressing her own wrongdoing where she twisted it around to point the finger at George Bush, and she was successful in getting away with it. However, in general, I felt that there was a general spirit from the others, last night, that ownership of wrongdoing was important at this stage. And it is.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    RainDog wrote:
    I missed the debate. Does anybody know if they're going to replay it? I can't find any info one way or the other.

    I missed it, too.

    I did see a clip of the (presumedly last question) of the debate, (30 seconds to answer), What would be your priority in the first 100 days?

    Everyone but Kucinich seemed like they were either on auto-pilot (Clinton, Barack), or in the twilight zone (all the rest).
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    gue_barium wrote:
    I missed it, too.

    I did see a clip of the (presumedly last question) of the debate, (30 seconds to answer), What would be your priority in the first 100 days?

    Everyone but Kucinich seemed like they were either on auto-pilot (Clinton, Barack), or in the twilight zone (all the rest).

    I hope it's up on youtube. I'd really like to see it.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Part 1
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=rh6w1okE3ZQ
    Part 2
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=beuKOwP0iBs
    Part 3
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=un0Up0mY8Hg
    Part 4
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=jo9bkZCnUNs
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
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