Study proves smoking pot causes "coughing and wheezing"!!!

kenny olav

Fuck me! I had no clue.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/6922379.stm

Thank you Great Britain for all of your great research on cannabis as of late.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

That would all be good if people smoked weed in the same quantities as tobacco. I believe it's a fair bit less in reality to make a valid comparison.

If you smoke both...well ouch. Don't smoke cigarettes, and don't chain smoke weed like cigarettes....but does anyone smoke like 10-20+ cigarette size joints a day in reality? Like a half ounce a day?

Herb also does not have a zillion nasty chemicals in it either.

Anti pot propaganda. I think they forgot to include the things I just mentioned on purpose.

jlew24asu

i laffed out loud when I read the title of your thread and first sentence.

g under p

Homer on WEED.

Peace to the herb trees
Earle

Drowned Out

This one is barely worth fighting, but I have to point out a few things that I found almost laughable:

A single cannabis joint could damage the lungs as much as smoking up to five tobacco cigarettes one after another,

One joint could cause as much damage as up to five cigarettes

The authors said: "The most important finding was that one joint of cannabis was similar to 2.5 to five tobacco cigarettes in terms of causing airflow obstruction.

So they say "up to" five times twice in the article before saying the actual result they found...which just happens to vary by 50% of the total they'd already given twice. The variance is huge...but still much less than the old line we were fed...I was always told growing up that it was more like a hundred joints to a cig.

However, in this study, people who smoked only cannabis were not found to suffer from emphysema, a serious and crippling lung disease which was previously thought to be linked to the drug. .

Well, it sounds like this is the only "new" finding from this study. Why isn't this the headline? Everything else is old news.


Then they drop this bomb again:

The warnings come after recent research suggested cannabis smokers were 40% more likely than non-users to suffer psychotic illnesses such as schizophrenia.

It's almost like there was another non-story published in order to promote the first one as truth....
a couple lines from the first article that they left out in regards to the psycho claim:
"they couldn't prove that marijuana use itself increases the risk of psychosis" (couldn't prove it? aren't they supposed to be objective about these things?)
and
"Scientists cannot rule out that pre-existing conditions could have led to both marijuana use and later psychoses"

....and the fact that your chance of suffering psychoses rises 40%...of 1%.


Funny stuff.

soulsinging

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

That would all be good if people smoked weed in the same quantities as tobacco. I believe it's a fair bit less in reality to make a valid comparison.

If you smoke both...well ouch. Don't smoke cigarettes, and don't chain smoke weed like cigarettes....but does anyone smoke like 10-20+ cigarette size joints a day in reality? Like a half ounce a day?

Herb also does not have a zillion nasty chemicals in it either.

Anti pot propaganda. I think they forgot to include the things I just mentioned on purpose.

i used to and i definitely felt it in the lungs. i was chronically sick all the time. but that's a pretty ridiculous amount to smoke and i had some issues and doubt many people do the same as i did.

even flow?

Fools! You don't get off if you didn't cough.

Stay away from the hydro and stick to the island herb.

FinsburyParkCarrots

The European way of skinning up requires the addition of tobacco to a spliff. I'm not surprised people cough and wheeze.

Collin

It also causes a nice buzz.

even flow?

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

The European way of skinning up requires the addition of tobacco to a spliff. I'm not surprised people cough and wheeze.

Don't you worry that it is a local problem over there Fins. It happens over here too.

Staffan

g under p wrote:

Homer on WEED.

Peace to the herb trees
Earle

Thanks for posting this link, I saw this episode late one night long time ago, I've been looking for it since !

So I'll spark another owl and watch it and laugh my a** off again & again

inmytree

this one is easy...just get a Volcano....issue resolved...

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Drowned Out wrote:

It's almost like there was another non-story published in order to promote the first one as truth....
a couple lines from the first article that they left out in regards to the psycho claim:
"they couldn't prove that marijuana use itself increases the risk of psychosis" (couldn't prove it? aren't they supposed to be objective about these things?)
and
"Scientists cannot rule out that pre-existing conditions could have led to both marijuana use and later psychoses"

....and the fact that your chance of suffering psychoses rises 40%...of 1%.

Funny stuff.

And that's how the propaganda is strewn. They push a new story quoting the other along the lines of matter of fact.

Yes....the propaganda machine hard at work sewing the seeds.

onelongsong

inmytree wrote:

this one is easy...just get a Volcano....issue resolved...

my sister got one during her bout with cancer. she says it's well worth the money. guess i'll have to invest in one.

Pearl Jam and toast

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

That would all be good if people smoked weed in the same quantities as tobacco. I believe it's a fair bit less in reality to make a valid comparison.

If you smoke both...well ouch. Don't smoke cigarettes, and don't chain smoke weed like cigarettes....but does anyone smoke like 10-20+ cigarette size joints a day in reality? Like a half ounce a day?

Herb also does not have a zillion nasty chemicals in it either.

Anti pot propaganda. I think they forgot to include the things I just mentioned on purpose.

To add to your extremely accurate post..

Pot's amazing stress relief ability is never mentioned in these things. Weed pulled me out of the worst depression of my life (weed and playing music). My grades were inching towards failing at the time but because of weed I was able to pull them all back up to A's and B's in a matter of months. I wasn't stressed out, I was getting sleep, etc etc.

Staffan

inmytree wrote:

this one is easy...just get a Volcano....issue resolved...

Just curious, what's a volcano, apart from a big mountain spewing lava : )

RolandTD20Kdrummer

soulsinging wrote:

i used to and i definitely felt it in the lungs. i was chronically sick all the time. but that's a pretty ridiculous amount to smoke and i had some issues and doubt many people do the same as i did.

Oh yes...it's definitely up there. Resins abound. I don't understand people who mix in tobacco, especially if they don't smoke cigs....good way to get addicted to smoking if you ask me.

If it was legalized, they could develop killer potent strains so all you would need is one or two inhales....good for hours.

This pre-historic weed has the potential to put many big pharmaceuticals out of a lot of business. I think the government figured that out pretty quick with their G13 marijuana grow project.

That's the reality of it in my opinion.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

StonEd67 wrote:

Just curious, what's a volcano, apart from a big mountain spewing lava : )

A vaporizer... i.e. zero smoke. Supposed to definitely work, and extremely well from what I hear.

http://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/9985volcano_pic.JPG

NMyTree

Kenny Olav wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/6922379.stm

Study proves smoking pot causes "coughing and wheezing"!!!

Yes, wouldn't want anyone coughing and wheezing as a result of smoking marijuana. It's important that our coughing and wheezing be exclusively a result of the filth and crap corporations emitt into our air.


What a ridiculous study.

It even states in the article that any damage is relative to the quantity of marijuana is smoked and one's daily smoking habits.

Geeeee....you think?:rolleyes:

Isn't this the case with everything? If one abuses, over-uses or over-does anything; it it bad for one's health.

Moderation is always the key in all things.

If you drink too much water, it is bad for your health and in extreme cases....one can die.

If you over-exercise it is detrimental to one's health. Too much sugar, bad. Too much milk, bad.

The fact is, the naturally occuring chemicals in marijuana are less dangerous to our health, than the pesticides, hormones, steroids and anti-biotics that are in our milk, eggs, meat, wheat, corn, fruits and all foods not organically grown. But you won't see any major studies done on this and then published in a major newspaper or media outlet.....

" Warning: The Pesticides, Hormones, Steroids and Anti-Biotics Which Are In Our Milk, Eggs, Meat, Wheat, Corn, Fruits and All Foods Not Organically Grown; Are Extremely Harmful. Only Organically Grown Foods Are Void Of All These Harmful Contaminents and Chemicals!"

It will be a cold day in hell before we see that headline splashed across a BBC or CNN headline!

Mercury, anyone?:rolleyes:

Apparently, now they're trying to downplay and deminish the dangers and severity of mercury in fish, water and in the soil.

It is mindnumbing how much attention, focus and press marijuana receives from a certain large percentage of the population- as they preach the "evils and dangers " of marijuana. But they're feeding their families/kids milk and meat that is contaminated with pesticides, hormones, steroids and anti-biotics; which result in a plethora of deadly health problems.

As for psychological disorders or diseases, I don't believe there's any doubt that anyone with a pre-existing problem will only have the problem magnified by marijuana use. In the same way that pre-existing psychological disorders or diseases will lead to alcohol abuse, which results in the magnification of their psychological problems, which in turn will lead to more alcohol abuse.

Doesn't take a genius to see that.

Any time a human being abuses, over-uses or over-does any substance or anything; it's obvious there is a pre-existing psychological or emotional problem. It is the extent and severity of the problem and how it effects one's health, stability and life; which is in question.

The pre-existing psychological or emotional problem is the gateway to more severe and dangerous drug abuse. Not marijuana.

A majority of people who have either tried or still use marijuana, exercise an approach of moderation.

Saying marijuana is a gateway to other more dangerous drug abuse; is like saying getting one's first blowjob is the gateway to becoming a promiscuous, anything-goes, bi-sexual swinger who will undoubtedly end up bareass naked in the middle of an orgy and having unprotected/unsafe sexual encounters with both genders and all walks of life.

Absurd.

surferdude

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

And that's how the propaganda is strewn. They push a new story quoting the other along the lines of matter of fact.

Yes....the propaganda machine hard at work sewing the seeds.

Gee, so the anti-drug people have just adopted the same type of scientific analysis as the IPCC and global warming group.

There's so much bullshit out there that at this point I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do. When I see the type analysis being presented I know applying just a little common sense to my decisions will make for better analysis and decisions than just about anything being offered up by the scientfic community.

onelongsong

StonEd67 wrote:

Just curious, what's a volcano, apart from a big mountain spewing lava : )

http://vaporizeit.com/Flyer_VolcanoVapsys_US.pdf