Nader's back to run again

monkey spanker

Will the den's undercut him and out him out of the race? or will he run and maybe make a difference? the country is ripe and ready for a third choice, but i don't think he's the kind of guy that can pull it off. any thoughts??

kenny olav

are you sure? I googled 'Nader 2008' and couldn't find anything concrete.

kenny olav

and by the way, 3 times is enough to run for president. he should let someone else take the progressive mantle, and throw his support behind that person.

Ott

Kenny Olav wrote:

and by the way, 3 times is enough to run for president. he should let someone else take the progressive mantle, and throw his support behind that person.

Gravel, perhaps.

keeponrockin

Do we really need him to take another election?

WMA

The Republicans will probably embrace him again, while the Dem's distance themselves. The Repulicans will want him on the ballot so the left fragment themselves between 2 candidates.

It really irked me last time when he accepted Republican support with open arms while the Democrats were closer to his positions on most issues. It isn't that difficult to see the significance of that support.

Rushlimbo

Nader's ego is larger than his intellect.

kenny olav

WMA wrote:

The Republicans will probably embrace him again, while the Dem's distance themselves. The Repulicans will want him on the ballot so the left fragment themselves between 2 candidates.

It really irked me last time when he accepted Republican support with open arms while the Democrats were closer to his positions on most issues. It isn't that difficult to see the significance of that support.

ok, this is not meant to attack you personally, but that is bullshit. many Republicans who supported Nader saw him as the only candidate who cared about the constitution. it could easily be argued that for paleoconservatives and libertarians, many of whom are registered Republicans, Nader was closer to their views than Gore or Kerry. i imagine a lot of people who are supporting Ron Paul right now voted for Nader.

kenny olav

i still can't find any evidence that Nader is running in 2008

i only found this satirical piece:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19442065/site/newsweek

Eliot Rosewater

Rushlimbo wrote:

Nader's ego is larger than his intellect.

absolutely ridiculous post. Nader is very intelligent, and more importantly he's an honest man.

LikeAnOcean

keeponrockin wrote:

Do we really need him to take another election?

Take an election from who? The other shithead Republicrat running?

Eliot Rosewater

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Take an election from who? The other shithead Republicrat running?

Exactly. People who blame Nader for Bush stealing the election aren't being honest. How about we blame the fucking morons who voted the village idiot into office? Or the ignorant ones who thought Kerry would be any different than Bush even if he had one?

My sad belief is that there's little difference even in this upcoming election between the leading republicans and leading democrats. The dems say they're against the war (finally, ffs) but what have they done about it? I'll tell you what they've done about it. Shit. And anyone but Nader, Kucinich or maybe Gravel or Paul will keep doing shit about it no matter what they say right now.

p.s. I still haven't found an ounce of evidence that Nader is running in 2008. I don't think he is and nothing I've found leads me to believe he will.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

The Atlantic Monthly, in its list of the "100 most influential Americans", ranked Nader 96: "He made the cars we drive safer; thirty years later, he made George W. Bush the president."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Nader

interesting

WMA

Kenny Olav wrote:

ok, this is not meant to attack you personally, but that is bullshit. many Republicans who supported Nader saw him as the only candidate who cared about the constitution. it could easily be argued that for paleoconservatives and libertarians, many of whom are registered Republicans, Nader was closer to their views than Gore or Kerry. i imagine a lot of people who are supporting Ron Paul right now voted for Nader.

I can't remember exactly where I previously read about the support, but doing a google search quickly I came up with:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/07/09/MNGQQ7J31K1.DTL

Some in the Green party suggested he should reject their support also.

WMA

don't gimme no wrote:

Exactly. People who blame Nader for Bush stealing the election aren't being honest. How about we blame the fucking morons who voted the village idiot into office? Or the ignorant ones who thought Kerry would be any different than Bush even if he had one?

My sad belief is that there's little difference even in this upcoming election between the leading republicans and leading democrats. The dems say they're against the war (finally, ffs) but what have they done about it? I'll tell you what they've done about it. Shit. And anyone but Nader, Kucinich or maybe Gravel or Paul will keep doing shit about it no matter what they say right now.

p.s. I still haven't found an ounce of evidence that Nader is running in 2008. I don't think he is and nothing I've found leads me to believe he will.

There isn't a hell of a lot they can do in their current position, though Bush did veto a couple of his first ever bills to prevent them from making him either make progress in Iraq or get out. They either need more people in the legislative branch to overturn a veto, or the position of President to do it first hand.

I don't blame Nader for the '04 election results, though I do question his priorities. Maybe if Ron Paul runs on a third party ticket, it'd even things out a bit if Nader does run next year.

Eliot Rosewater

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

thirty years later, he made George W. Bush the president."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Nader

interesting

People who blame Nader for the dumb fuck we have in office now are ignorant. How about we blame all the jackasses who voted for him? That's the reason he's in office. Oh, and that whole voter fraud thing.....

THC

WMA wrote:

The Republicans will probably embrace him again, while the Dem's distance themselves. The Repulicans will want him on the ballot so the left fragment themselves between 2 candidates.

I couldn't agree w/ you more!!!

moeaholic

don't gimme no wrote:

People who blame Nader for the dumb fuck we have in office now are ignorant. How about we blame all the jackasses who voted for him? That's the reason he's in office. Oh, and that whole voter fraud thing.....

you could also lay blame on the democratic party for not drumming up enough backers to vote for kerry.