in other news, both good and bad ...

hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
Good news first:

The South Dakota abortion ban is history!

At least five states raised their minimum wage. Colorado is still too close to call as I type this.

Now the down side:

Discrimination is as popular as ever, with five states banning same-sex marriage. Three states are still up in the air on this one.

Colorado failed to legalize marijuana, and it looks as though Nevada will do the same.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    I put the minimum wage votes in the bad column, but agree with the rest of your categorizations.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    I am stunned by the South Dakota decision. Good work by the (I have no idea) State.

    I went to the University of Wisconsin and am disappointed, though not suprised that the gay marriage ban passed with ease. I think there is another decade or two of backwards steps for gays to take before it turns around. All 50 states will pass one eventually. Maybe 20 or 30 years from now, they will start to go away.

    I must admit that I do not know much about most states' gay marriage bans, but Wisconsin's also disallows Civil Unions. Do all of the others as well?
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    I must admit that I do not know much about most states' gay marriage bans, but Wisconsin's also disallows Civil Unions. Do all of the others as well?
    Virginia - yes
    Tennessee - no
    South Dakota - yes (if it passes, narrowly winning at the moment)
    South Carolina - yes
    Idaho - yes
    Colorado - no (this one appears to be winning, but a separate bill to create domestic partnerships is losing)
    Arizona - yes
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • hippiemom wrote:
    Good news first:

    The South Dakota abortion ban is history!

    At least five states raised their minimum wage. Colorado is still too close to call as I type this.

    Now the down side:

    Discrimination is as popular as ever, with five states banning same-sex marriage. Three states are still up in the air on this one.

    Colorado failed to legalize marijuana, and it looks as though Nevada will do the same.

    God bless you hippiemom!! I know where you come from and that is fine, but you are a bit of a hippie and you need to shake that. We could debate all this but the answers to life's issue are not contained in a $.50 raise in a minimum wage or gays being allowed to do a ceremony at St Patricks Catherdral.

    I am interested in your points of view, but it has always seemed to me our govt is caught up in non issues that have no real impact, and I think these states issues all represent this. Social issues, like a badge of honor to the sixties generation. But yet, most social change has come in middle America, not Timothy Leary.
    HOB 10.05.2005, E Rutherford 06.03.2006, The Gorge 07.22.2006, Lolla 08.05.2007, West Palm 06.11.2008, Tampa 06.12.2008, Columbia 06.16.2008, EV Memphis 06.20.2009, New Orleans 05.01.2010, Kansas City 05.03.2010
  • shmapshmap Posts: 374
    WindNoSail wrote:
    We could debate all this but the answers to life's issue are not contained in a $.50 raise in a minimum wage or gays being allowed to do a ceremony at St Patricks Catherdral.

    I am interested in your points of view, but it has always seemed to me our govt is caught up in non issues that have no real impact, and I think these states issues all represent this.

    I'm sorry, but how are these non-issues? I think an explanation is needed, because I just don't understand.
  • I think that having MJ illegal is OK. If it's legal the government will be able to tax the crap out of it and it probably would be more expensive and not as good as what is out on the street right now.

    I mean the price for Herb hasn't changed in who knows how long. Do you think that would be the case if it was legal?
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  • shmap wrote:
    I'm sorry, but how are these non-issues? I think an explanation is needed, because I just don't understand.

    Why is gay marriage an issue?

    Why is the minimum wage an issue?

    The question itself leaves one feeling a little goofy trying to explain it...
    HOB 10.05.2005, E Rutherford 06.03.2006, The Gorge 07.22.2006, Lolla 08.05.2007, West Palm 06.11.2008, Tampa 06.12.2008, Columbia 06.16.2008, EV Memphis 06.20.2009, New Orleans 05.01.2010, Kansas City 05.03.2010
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    hippiemom wrote:
    Good news first:


    Discrimination is as popular as ever, with five states banning same-sex marriage. Three states are still up in the air on this one.

    Heterosexual marriage shouldn't be recognized. It's a non-issue. You need to explain the discrimination as it is.

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  • Recently in Nevada, I ve seen a commercial promoting the use of medicinal m.
    People who need it, need to endorse it more......and its true as the ad says.."kids can get it everyday at school...but for [her] breast cancer, she can barely obtain it for healing."

    People need to keep speaking up, so others can get more educated.


    oh, and thanks hippiemom- great to see you. :D
    Rarghstarfarian.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    WindNoSail wrote:
    Why is gay marriage an issue?

    becos republicans made gay marriage, abortion, and stem cells an issue. who put those initiatives on the ballot? trying to lay the blame for making moral/social causes an issue at the feet of "hippies" is the most ridiculous thing ive heard you say here.

    as to minimum wage. it hasn't been raised since clinton in the early 90s. since then, how many times has congress voted themselves a raise... and they make 6 figures? if they're doing it for themselves, what's the big deal about the people doing it for themselves via ballot initiative?

    hippiemom made a post summarizing the results of ballot initiatives. she hardly said these were all central issues. in fact, it's called "other news."
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    hippiemom wrote:
    Good news first:

    The South Dakota abortion ban is history!

    At least five states raised their minimum wage. Colorado is still too close to call as I type this.

    Now the down side:

    Discrimination is as popular as ever, with five states banning same-sex marriage. Three states are still up in the air on this one.

    Colorado failed to legalize marijuana, and it looks as though Nevada will do the same.

    WHat you consider the downside i consider the good side.

    A. Marijuana not being legalized

    B. Still a ban on gay marriage

    c.English the official language of Arizona.
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    hippiemom wrote:
    Discrimination is as popular as ever, with five states banning same-sex marriage. Three states are still up in the air on this one.

    Yep ... Its still "acceptable" to discriminate against this group of people, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
  • I can understand some of the con principles such as low taxes and small government. That's fine. But, how does banning gay marriage or abortion effect them personally?

    Here in SC a marriage amendment passed by a whopping margin. Is this all because the bible frowns upon homosexuality? Two gay men pledging their love for one another has no effect on me whatsoever. I just don't get it.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    WindNoSail wrote:
    Why is gay marriage an issue?
    becos republicans made gay marriage, abortion, and stem cells an issue. who put those initiatives on the ballot? trying to lay the blame for making moral/social causes an issue at the feet of "hippies" is the most ridiculous thing ive heard you say here.
    If W didn't get on his high horse and demand an amendment in the Constitution taking peoples rights away, there would be no issue with gay marriage. Unless you're a closed-minded, homophobe.
  • hippiemom wrote:
    Good news first:

    The South Dakota abortion ban is history!

    At least five states raised their minimum wage. Colorado is still too close to call as I type this.

    Now the down side:

    Discrimination is as popular as ever, with five states banning same-sex marriage. Three states are still up in the air on this one.

    Colorado failed to legalize marijuana, and it looks as though Nevada will do the same.
    thats right.....

    we can now go on killing babies ...........
    and we can all sleep well knowing that the teenagers working at mcdonalds will now be making an extra $.50 an hour.....

    its a great day in american history!!!!!!!

    hehehe..........
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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