Bush continues to be spineless...
Purple Hawk
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when is this guy going to stand up for himself?
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STEPHANOPOULOS: Democrats are going to try to take this right to the White House based on these stories this morning. They're going to say the president's former top lawyer, Harriet Miers, was involved. His top political advisor, Karl Rove was involved. Even the president himself new about it. You can expect subpoenas to Karl Rove to come up and testify. He might try to fight it but it's going to be hard for him to resist that. And on top of that, Robin, as we said already, there are calls for attorney general Gonzales to resign.
RUSH: This frosts me. This is nothing. This is a non-story, zip, zero, nada. But it fits in with the pattern the Democrats said they were going to employ. They said they were going to emulate the Newt Gingrich tactic of just whatever the president does, criticize it, consider it a violation of law, violation of ethics, violation of something, and they're just relentless, not going to let up. Chucky Schumer today was on Capitol Hill, and he held a press conference, and here's a portion of what he said.
SCHUMER: Today's staff resignation does not take heat off the attorney general --
RUSH: Stop the tape for a second, stop the tape and recue that. What happened is that Gonzales' chief of staff stepped down today, and that makes me mad. Why does the White House give these people away? Why do they give 'em up? Clearly this guy was asked to resign to try to take some of the heat off of this. This is a non-story. You give the left a scalp, and they're just going to want more. The White House dispenses with Rumsfeld; it's not going to satisfy them. They're going to move on to Rice. They're going to move on to anybody else. Now they're going after Gonzales over this. Gonzales' chief of staff walks the plank, gets thrown overboard. I don't know what the White House expects. They expect everybody to be bought off with that? No, that's like pouring blood in the water with a bunch of liberal sharks swimming around. They want more. Anyway, here's the Schumer bite again in toto.
SCHUMER: Today's staff resignation does not take heat off the attorney general. In fact, it raises the temperature. Kyle Sampson will not become the next Scooter Libby, the next fall guy. We now have direct evidence that Attorney General Gonzales was carrying out the political wishes of the president --
RUSH: So what?
SCHUMER: -- in at least some of these firings.
RUSH: It's a non-story.
RUSH: Somebody needs to ask Chuck Schumer a question. “Can we assume, then, Senator Schumer, that if a Democrat is elected president, say hypothetically Mrs. Clinton is elected president in 2008, are you telling us that Mrs. Clinton will not be free to fire any United States attorney because to do so would be political? Is that the standard now?” Why didn't Stephanopoulos ask him that? I'll tell you why he didn't ask him because it never is going to come up. If they want to fire US attorneys, they're going to do it and they're not going to have anybody say anything about it. The press will go right along with them, “Oh, it's normal presidential policy.”
In a way, in a strategic, or maybe tactical sense, this is what you get with the new tone. The only reason Bush didn't put a bunch of his own guys in -- I say "his own guys," people with his view of the law, people with his view, these are appointed positions, US attorney positions are. If he'd done this in the first year of his first term, then yip yip yip yip yahoo. Now all these other so-called scandals are piling up, and anything Bush does is going to come under the same rubric, fall under the same umbrella. It's a scandal, and Bush is covering something up, and, of course; the Drive-Bys are smelling blood. They are defining their relevance these days by whether or not they will be able to destroy a presidency before that second term has been completed.
I want every Democrat, every Democrat senator to state that they will not urge a Democrat president to fire any of the current US attorneys should a Democrat become president, including Schumer. I would like for Chuck Schumer to release all records maintained in any of his offices in which he has advocated the hiring or firing of any US attorney, including those in his own state. This is common practice. Senators recommend judges to the president. Senators recommend US attorneys from their states. Senators will argue against certain US attorneys. All of this goes on. It's just not in public hearings. But these kinds of things happen frequently. Let's see Chuck Schumer's file. You want offense, Jim? We can go on offense all day. Where are the Republicans on this? Republicans are sitting around letting this happen. Let the Republicans return some fire here. Let the White House return some fire. Let's see some files; let's see some letters from Senator Schumer. Let's see some records from him, record he's maintained in any of his offices. My friends, I know, but I don't know. But I know, because I understand how this stuff works.
I know that Schumer and a lot of other senators have advocated the hiring or firing of a lot of US attorneys over the course of their careers, including those in their own states. So let's see any letters and any e-mails that are in Senator Schumer's office. The Drive-Bys are not going to ask any members of Congress what their roles are in influencing the selection process and why is that? What has Schumer done in this process? We want to see his records, because I can tell you right now he's done a lot of things to influence, as have all other senators. But we're only hearing about one senator, Pete Domenici, got hold of somebody, in Gonzales' office, “Look, the US attorney out here is screwing up. This guy is not doing a good job.” Oh, they're zeroing in on that. You think that's unique? You think that's unprecedented?
This is the kind of thing that happens all the time. Now, my demanding records from Senator Schumer is not going to get it done. Somebody in government, elected, is going to have to do it to get it done, or maybe won't get done, put Schumer on the defensive at least. It is a non-story, folks, and it's being trumped up because it fits the template here, the action line of the story, that Bush is corrupt; we gotta get rid of him; and everything he does is secret and in private and it's the most power crazed administration that we've ever had, and all of this is bunk. Lorraine in Baltimore, you're next on the Excellence in Broadcasting Network. Hello.
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RUSH: Oh, don't tell me I'm seeing what I'm seeing. Alberto Gonzales in a press conference saying I acknowledge mistakes were made here in the firing of these eight US attorneys. Don't give them that! Why don't you just put a gun in your mouth and shoot yourself? That's the only thing that's going to make them happy, Alberto, is if you commit suicide on camera. “I acknowledge mistakes were made.”
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This administration has become so weak, and pathetic. The way they bend over and grab their ankles is pathetic.
War Fred Thompson.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_031307/content/01125101.member.html
STEPHANOPOULOS: Democrats are going to try to take this right to the White House based on these stories this morning. They're going to say the president's former top lawyer, Harriet Miers, was involved. His top political advisor, Karl Rove was involved. Even the president himself new about it. You can expect subpoenas to Karl Rove to come up and testify. He might try to fight it but it's going to be hard for him to resist that. And on top of that, Robin, as we said already, there are calls for attorney general Gonzales to resign.
RUSH: This frosts me. This is nothing. This is a non-story, zip, zero, nada. But it fits in with the pattern the Democrats said they were going to employ. They said they were going to emulate the Newt Gingrich tactic of just whatever the president does, criticize it, consider it a violation of law, violation of ethics, violation of something, and they're just relentless, not going to let up. Chucky Schumer today was on Capitol Hill, and he held a press conference, and here's a portion of what he said.
SCHUMER: Today's staff resignation does not take heat off the attorney general --
RUSH: Stop the tape for a second, stop the tape and recue that. What happened is that Gonzales' chief of staff stepped down today, and that makes me mad. Why does the White House give these people away? Why do they give 'em up? Clearly this guy was asked to resign to try to take some of the heat off of this. This is a non-story. You give the left a scalp, and they're just going to want more. The White House dispenses with Rumsfeld; it's not going to satisfy them. They're going to move on to Rice. They're going to move on to anybody else. Now they're going after Gonzales over this. Gonzales' chief of staff walks the plank, gets thrown overboard. I don't know what the White House expects. They expect everybody to be bought off with that? No, that's like pouring blood in the water with a bunch of liberal sharks swimming around. They want more. Anyway, here's the Schumer bite again in toto.
SCHUMER: Today's staff resignation does not take heat off the attorney general. In fact, it raises the temperature. Kyle Sampson will not become the next Scooter Libby, the next fall guy. We now have direct evidence that Attorney General Gonzales was carrying out the political wishes of the president --
RUSH: So what?
SCHUMER: -- in at least some of these firings.
RUSH: It's a non-story.
RUSH: Somebody needs to ask Chuck Schumer a question. “Can we assume, then, Senator Schumer, that if a Democrat is elected president, say hypothetically Mrs. Clinton is elected president in 2008, are you telling us that Mrs. Clinton will not be free to fire any United States attorney because to do so would be political? Is that the standard now?” Why didn't Stephanopoulos ask him that? I'll tell you why he didn't ask him because it never is going to come up. If they want to fire US attorneys, they're going to do it and they're not going to have anybody say anything about it. The press will go right along with them, “Oh, it's normal presidential policy.”
In a way, in a strategic, or maybe tactical sense, this is what you get with the new tone. The only reason Bush didn't put a bunch of his own guys in -- I say "his own guys," people with his view of the law, people with his view, these are appointed positions, US attorney positions are. If he'd done this in the first year of his first term, then yip yip yip yip yahoo. Now all these other so-called scandals are piling up, and anything Bush does is going to come under the same rubric, fall under the same umbrella. It's a scandal, and Bush is covering something up, and, of course; the Drive-Bys are smelling blood. They are defining their relevance these days by whether or not they will be able to destroy a presidency before that second term has been completed.
I want every Democrat, every Democrat senator to state that they will not urge a Democrat president to fire any of the current US attorneys should a Democrat become president, including Schumer. I would like for Chuck Schumer to release all records maintained in any of his offices in which he has advocated the hiring or firing of any US attorney, including those in his own state. This is common practice. Senators recommend judges to the president. Senators recommend US attorneys from their states. Senators will argue against certain US attorneys. All of this goes on. It's just not in public hearings. But these kinds of things happen frequently. Let's see Chuck Schumer's file. You want offense, Jim? We can go on offense all day. Where are the Republicans on this? Republicans are sitting around letting this happen. Let the Republicans return some fire here. Let the White House return some fire. Let's see some files; let's see some letters from Senator Schumer. Let's see some records from him, record he's maintained in any of his offices. My friends, I know, but I don't know. But I know, because I understand how this stuff works.
I know that Schumer and a lot of other senators have advocated the hiring or firing of a lot of US attorneys over the course of their careers, including those in their own states. So let's see any letters and any e-mails that are in Senator Schumer's office. The Drive-Bys are not going to ask any members of Congress what their roles are in influencing the selection process and why is that? What has Schumer done in this process? We want to see his records, because I can tell you right now he's done a lot of things to influence, as have all other senators. But we're only hearing about one senator, Pete Domenici, got hold of somebody, in Gonzales' office, “Look, the US attorney out here is screwing up. This guy is not doing a good job.” Oh, they're zeroing in on that. You think that's unique? You think that's unprecedented?
This is the kind of thing that happens all the time. Now, my demanding records from Senator Schumer is not going to get it done. Somebody in government, elected, is going to have to do it to get it done, or maybe won't get done, put Schumer on the defensive at least. It is a non-story, folks, and it's being trumped up because it fits the template here, the action line of the story, that Bush is corrupt; we gotta get rid of him; and everything he does is secret and in private and it's the most power crazed administration that we've ever had, and all of this is bunk. Lorraine in Baltimore, you're next on the Excellence in Broadcasting Network. Hello.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: Oh, don't tell me I'm seeing what I'm seeing. Alberto Gonzales in a press conference saying I acknowledge mistakes were made here in the firing of these eight US attorneys. Don't give them that! Why don't you just put a gun in your mouth and shoot yourself? That's the only thing that's going to make them happy, Alberto, is if you commit suicide on camera. “I acknowledge mistakes were made.”
END TRANSCRIPT
This administration has become so weak, and pathetic. The way they bend over and grab their ankles is pathetic.
War Fred Thompson.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
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Were you expecting more?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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yes, he should have fired everyone at the beginning....the insinuation that it's unusual for prez's to fire attorney's is absurd...he should be calling his critics out...that is my problem with Bush...he lets his critics define him...he seems incabable of taking the offense.
again,
War fred thompson
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
"So as SOON as he "stands up for himself"... "
And there you have it. You're basically saying he won't stand up for himself because he is too much of a wuss to face getting lambasted. is that what we want from our leadership?
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I can only speak for myself... but, I really don't support anyone in public office who won't 'Stand up for himself'... kinda weak in my book... I don't like wusses.
Hail, Hail!!!
I'm not sure that its a matter of not standing up for himself. I think he could address some of his criticisms but being in his position he has to be very careful about what he says.. especially since his public speaking skills aren't all that great.
So he could stand up for himself and his staff. He could say, "damn right I fired these guys for not trying to bring down my political rivals"; but that would seem distasteful. And why should he, when there's likely someone in his administration willing to take the fall for him?
its a joke right
scary that i seem to be agreeing with you more and more...but damnit, stand up for yourself....(not you, W
Watching Bush is like watching Paul from the Wonder years....
That is why he is not poplular...his administration is weak, and far too willing to bend over to try to accomidate the left. I'm sure the left views the Clinton's as such, in terms of appealing towards the other side at the expense of principles, at least Nader thinks so....
what i'm saying, is that i'm sick of the phoneyness of Bush and Clinton...I'd rather see real knock down debates between kucinich and santorum. all this other superfulous shit is just that.
i just wish W would grow a sack.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
He fired ANY? you are saying he fired them all. Besides Clinton, who did? Please provide citations.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
BTW, I noticed your post about wishing Bush would grow some balls. I think he has enormous balls, which is how we got into so many messes worldwide. But I think there's only so much shit you can shovel before people become fed up and don't believe you. Bush has far passed that point.
"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
Democrats turn up heat on firing of U.S. attorney
They allege Carol Lam was ousted in San Diego because she was investigating Republican politicians in Southern California.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-usattys19mar19,0,2790807.story?track=ntothtml
"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
Yeah, that's what Kerry and Schumer said yesterday. Have any presidents fired ALL of them? Clinton fired all of them b/c of the guy tracking whitewater...he was the first to fire them all...well 93 of 94.
as far as your latimes article...sorry, don't read racist rags...see my Rush thread.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
The current case is different. Mass firings of U.S. attorneys are fairly common when a new president takes office, but not in a second-term administration. Prosecutors are usually appointed for four-year terms, but they are usually allowed to stay on the job if the president who appointed them is re-elected.
Even as they planned mass firings by the Bush White House, Justice Department officials acknowledged it would be unusual for the president to oust his own appointees. Ronald Reagan kept his appointees for his second term. Although Bill Clinton removed almost all the of U.S. attorneys when he took office to remove Republican holdovers, his replacement appointees stayed for his second term as well. If it were possible, what if Clinton removed Ken Starr during the investigation of Monica Lewinsky because it looked as if things were not going Clinton's way? It's the same principle.
A recent report by the bipartisan Congressional Research Service showed only five cases in 25 years in which U.S. attorneys were forced to resign. Three were for ‘questionable personal conduct,’ such as one who bit a topless dancer after losing a drug case.
As for Whitewater, the attorney Clinton replaced, Charles A. Banks, had himself resisted investigating the Whitewater matter when George H.W. Bush's administration officials wanted to find an issue to bring down Clinton during the election. So actually Clinton didn't get rid of him because of Whitewater.
And as far as the racism thing goes, didn't Rush Limbaugh refer to Jesse Jackson as a "chocolate chip" when Jackson joined the Kerry campaign?
Here's an article by the Washington Post and AP regarding the political motives of the firing of the U.S. attorneys.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20070302-9999-1n2usat.html
"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
See... here's where we disagree.
For me... watching Bush is like watching Corky from 'Life Goes On'...
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peace...
Hail, Hail!!!