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Politicians HATE the middle class!

Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
edited October 2008 in A Moving Train
Contrary to what gets said in debates and preached about all over, it is my steadfast belief that politicians hate the middle class except when it's election time... because, that's the only time they are needed.

Sure they talk a big game, but ultimately, the poorest people give them projects to boast about and feel good about themselves throwing a bone here and there not to mention all this "good will" buys a shitload of loyalty. Rich people keep them in power, extend their influence and help them accumulate vast sums of wealth not to mention they employ the majority of the nation... all this back scratching... also buys a ton of votes and economic support. Not to mention the rich people are the ones responsible for the middle class tax dollars as well as the bulk of all the taxes paid and credits given.

The middle class are essentially deadbeats to the creditor that is the politician. Necessary to gain enough votes, but also the bulk of the problem in a political campaign. They don't need government programs to exist and they mainly care about infrastructure which is boring and dosen't get anyone elected and they also make up the bulk of the issue pandering whether it's abortion, immigration, guns, drugs... what have you. The middle class are a problem for politicans unless they can galvanize large numbers behind a particular moral campaign to hide the fact they are robbing them blind financially to support all thier other transgressions... nevermind accontability. That's the reason debate is futile. They haven't said ANYthing we didn't already know and the only use is in answering stock questions in the hopes that they might fire up another already sold group or a few wafflers to come over to thier side. It's essentially useless and akin to reality entertainment television. There's virtually no difference between those addicted to CNN, FNN, CNBC and the like and those watching American Idol.

Ultimately for a politican the best case scenario is a small group of very wealthy people at the top virtually no middle class and everyone else completely dependant on them for thier livelyhood.

Discuss.
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    You are essentially very right.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    I'd also like the statement.... "This is not the time for politics" to be followed by an immediate scroll on the bottom of the screen that reads..... I mean everything I'm saying right now has EVERYTHING to do with Politics. I'm mainly just pandering to the 2 or 3% of the people who might be out there who I really want to vote for me.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    no shit....

    although there are exceptions, people interested in seeking national office have only their interests in mind....
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    I don't think they HATE the Middle Class, they USE and ABUSE the Middle Class for their own purposes. The Middle Class has been manipulated for so long, they never felt the knife being stuck in their backs. The sad thing is, the so-called Middle Class is rapidly becoming the working class poor.

    People can lose a job, as long as they can find other compatible work - that has been taken away from them. People who were once proud because they worked and earned their way through life, are now having to rely on government help. They get upset knowing that their children may see working at Home Depot, Walmart, Walgreen's, Target, or Lowes as their only future. They are afraid their children may become the next generation dependents of welfare and social programs.

    This election maybe the only election where the Middle Class can have their voice heard throughout the entire four years. If that voice gets lost the Middle Class will disappear.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Who is the middle class?

    I think it's a generic term that encompasses almost everybody.

    Does anyone have a definition?
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    know1 wrote:
    Who is the middle class?

    I think it's a generic term that encompasses almost everybody.

    Does anyone have a definition?
    I'll give it a bash.

    Those who work in a professional capacity, at or above the average wage, or those born into a family that work in a professional capacity that isn't considered aristocracy.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I'll give it a bash.

    Those who work in a professional capacity, at or above the average wage, or those born into a family that work in a professional capacity that isn't considered aristocracy.


    Here's a quote from Wikipedia:

    " Everyone wants to believe they are middle class...But this eagerness...has led the definition to be stretched like a bungee cord — used to defend/attack/describe everything...The Drum Major Institute...places the range for middle class at individuals making between $25,000 and $100,000 a year. Ah yes, there's a group of people bound to run into each other while house-hunting.
    —Dante Chinni"
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    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • mostdefiledmostdefiled Posts: 158
    I think that more than anything else, the government wants the middle class to stay where they are; if they go down a few notches, that's fine, but lots of upward social mobility is a terrifying idea... then we'd be the ones holding the reins! Yes, we've all head the Horatio Alger-esque stories about people who start with nothing and become very rich, but statistically it's very uncommon, and someone who ends up in that boat isn't too threatening, because they don't have any of the connections to get any real power.
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    know1 wrote:
    Here's a quote from Wikipedia:

    " Everyone wants to believe they are middle class...But this eagerness...has led the definition to be stretched like a bungee cord — used to defend/attack/describe everything...The Drum Major Institute...places the range for middle class at individuals making between $25,000 and $100,000 a year. Ah yes, there's a group of people bound to run into each other while house-hunting.
    —Dante Chinni"
    I don't see why class descriptors can't be broad. Of course a three-band structure isn't going to suitably cover everyone without some kind of overlap. Generally though, people fall into one of them.

    Wages shouldn't be a defining factor though. A doctor from a nice, suburban neighbourhood who earns £100,000 a year isn't upper-class based on that single factor. Likewise, the son of an Earl who has attended Eton and then crashed and burned, working a menial job for a shit wage isn't working class.

    There's a lot of overlap really. It's not a particularly helpful way of determining social structure but most people know what it means to a certain extent.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I don't see why class descriptors can't be broad. Of course a three-band structure isn't going to suitably cover everyone without some kind of overlap. Generally though, people fall into one of them.

    Wages shouldn't be a defining factor though. A doctor from a nice, suburban neighbourhood who earns £100,000 a year isn't upper-class based on that single factor. Likewise, the son of an Earl who has attended Eton and then crashed and burned, working a menial job for a shit wage isn't working class.

    There's a lot of overlap really. It's not a particularly helpful way of determining social structure but most people know what it means to a certain extent.

    The point is that the "middle class" basically means everybody.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    know1 wrote:
    The point is that the "middle class" basically means everybody.
    Not really. It doesn't mean those who are working class or those who are upper class. I personally know people from both, both of whom define themselves that way and are defined that way by others. Not everyone WANTS to be middle class and not everyone is. Maybe most people are, nopt everybody.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    I think they just really love themselves, power and money. I think they don't care about the middle class.
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  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    I'm upper class :)
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    at the fundamenal base.... the greatest difference between Democrats and Republicans is this:
    Democrats will take from the Middle Class and give it to the poor... Republicans will take from the Middle Class and give it to the rich.
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