Prison time for consensual sex?
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Softball coach sentenced for sex with player
Thursday, September 07, 2006
A former volunteer high school softball coach in Beaver County will spend at least six months in jail for having a consensual sex relationship with a former player, who was 17 at the time.
David Robert Brickner, 26, told authorities during a pre-sentence report that he and his wife have an "open marriage" and that he saw nothing wrong with the relationship. He pleaded guilty to corruption of minors in July. More serious charges were not filed because the girl was legally old enough to consent to the sex.
But a Beaver County judge yesterday agreed that Mr. Brickner abused his position of trust to seduce the girl and sentenced him to six to 23 months in jail.
Mr. Brickner was an unpaid volunteer assistant coach for the Big Beaver Falls Area School District when he was arrested in April. He twice violated his bond by continuing to contact the girl and had been jailed since August as a result.
Under his sentence, Mr. Brickner can no longer have contact with the girl. He has been removed from his coaching position and banned from school property.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06250/719813-100.stm
Unless the prison time was for violating his bond, I can't see why this guy would have to serve time. Granted, he probably took advantage of the girl, but she was 17 and consented (16 is the age of consent in PA). In my opinion morally, the guys is wrong, but I'm not sure that I agree what he did was legally wrong.
Thursday, September 07, 2006
A former volunteer high school softball coach in Beaver County will spend at least six months in jail for having a consensual sex relationship with a former player, who was 17 at the time.
David Robert Brickner, 26, told authorities during a pre-sentence report that he and his wife have an "open marriage" and that he saw nothing wrong with the relationship. He pleaded guilty to corruption of minors in July. More serious charges were not filed because the girl was legally old enough to consent to the sex.
But a Beaver County judge yesterday agreed that Mr. Brickner abused his position of trust to seduce the girl and sentenced him to six to 23 months in jail.
Mr. Brickner was an unpaid volunteer assistant coach for the Big Beaver Falls Area School District when he was arrested in April. He twice violated his bond by continuing to contact the girl and had been jailed since August as a result.
Under his sentence, Mr. Brickner can no longer have contact with the girl. He has been removed from his coaching position and banned from school property.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06250/719813-100.stm
Unless the prison time was for violating his bond, I can't see why this guy would have to serve time. Granted, he probably took advantage of the girl, but she was 17 and consented (16 is the age of consent in PA). In my opinion morally, the guys is wrong, but I'm not sure that I agree what he did was legally wrong.
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I would guess that is the case because otherwise, there would be no basis for prison time.
Either way (even if the player was 18), he obviously needs to be removed from coaching at that (or any) school.
Indeed. The issue is more one of violating boundaries while one is in a position of authority, its not about rape or consent.
Prison time is admittedly a harsh sentence, usually these people are censured professionally but do not go to jail.
I agree that the guy should be fired, but jail time seems a little ridiculous. Incarceration should be left for the people who are a danger to others in society.
17, i would have to say jail time is fairly harsh... obviously he should lose his job, and probably should lose his right to work with any minors especially in a school setting
you better video tape it for proof
you can send me a copy for safe storage
Yikes...that doesn't quite sound hypothetical.
For legal purposes, though, that line has to be drawn. Where between age 12 and age 18 is it? "Well 17.5 is ok. Well if 17.5 is ok, why not 17. Then why not 16.5? Then why not 16? Then why not 15.5... ... Then why not 11?"
Legal lines have to be drawn. If it's illegal, it's up to the courts to decide what type of punishment is deserved. No reasonable person would view this guy as a pedaphile. Assuming it's a first offense, I would think the probabtion/community service route would be reasonable.
But lines have to be drawn and a crime is a crime.
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This is really your kid? I see it is your first post. I assume you are not a Pearl Jam fan, so are you hopping from message board to message board? Just curious what brings you here.
The question is was it illegal. The guys got problems that's for sure and he clearly sexually harrased her from the time she was 16. But if she did not complain, then it's tough to make that charge stick. Was the sex illegal--in some states it was in others it was not? Did your daughter complain about it?
If it were my kid? I think what becomes of her is FAR more important than what becomes of him. I hope she is able to have better relationships in the future.
I don't want to make light of what this guy did and I do think it should be illegal for a 30 something to sleep with a 17 (16???) year old. But if she is LEGALLY able to consent, than it is not statutory rape.
The criminal justice system does not exist as a tool of revenge at the mercy of your sensibilities. It exists as a tool of justice for those who violate the rights of another. If this was, in fact, a consensual relationship I do not see how anyone's rights were violated.
I wanna see the lollipop and gum.....lol
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
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