we're still on the commerce clause. 4th amendment comes later. ill get back to you
im just happy this is being paid for with federal funds. if the city wants to do this, they can charge their citizens for it.
i totally forgot that on thursday chief justice john roberts is speaking to our 1L class and teaching a constitutional law seminar. so maybe ill ask him what he thinks
i totally forgot that on thursday chief justice john roberts is speaking to our 1L class and teaching a constitutional law seminar. so maybe ill ask him what he thinks
well I guess that's one way to find out.
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There is nothing in the article about the consequences of refusing to be tested. I wonder what those would be. I bet this won't stand up in court though, and I'm guessing someone will challenge it.
we do random drug testing of the athletes at the university I'm at and refusal to be tested (or even missing a test w/o prior notice) is equivolent to a positive finding (at least in disciplinary action...nothing on a medical / personal record that I'm aware of). Again, at this HS there's no repurcussions for a positive test...just counseling and parental notification. So even if the kid refuses and they treat it as + nothing really changes.
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You know in many European countries the legal drinking age is 16 and it's not like younger teens (14, 15 year olds) can't get their hands on beer.
These American teens drink a beer and they get counseling?
Well maybe it's because you're allowed to drive when you're 16 in the states. In Europe, it's usually 18 (or 17 and a few months or something like that).
But anyway, they get counseling? This whole thing is insane!
You know in many European countries the legal drinking age is 16 and it's not like younger teens (14, 15 year olds) can't get their hands on beer.
These American teens drink a beer and they get counseling?
Well maybe it's because you're allowed to drive when you're 16 in the states. In Europe, it's usually 18 (or 17 and a few months or something like that).
But anyway, they get counseling? This whole thing is insane!
I agree. The test doesn't differentiate between a kid who has been drunk every day for the past 6 months, and the kid who had a strawberry margarita on Friday night.
A kid with a drinking problem is going to exhibit other symptoms (falling grades, poor attendance, etc.), so you don't need a test to find those kids, all you have to do is pay attention. And the kid who has three beers after the football game doesn't need counseling, so it's all a huge waste of time and money.
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I agree. The test doesn't differentiate between a kid who has been drunk every day for the past 6 months, and the kid who had a strawberry margarita on Friday night.
A kid with a drinking problem is going to exhibit other symptoms (falling grades, poor attendance, etc.), so you don't need a test to find those kids, all you have to do is pay attention. And the kid who has three beers after the football game doesn't need counseling, so it's all a huge waste of time and money.
but it's so much easier to just say that alcohol is the cause of all the kids' problems and give a test and label the failing kids as needing counseling than actually have to pay attention on a daily basis, get to know the kids, and tailor solutions to their situations. one size fits all approaches are so much cheaper and less demanding.
I agree. The test doesn't differentiate between a kid who has been drunk every day for the past 6 months, and the kid who had a strawberry margarita on Friday night.
A kid with a drinking problem is going to exhibit other symptoms (falling grades, poor attendance, etc.), so you don't need a test to find those kids, all you have to do is pay attention. And the kid who has three beers after the football game doesn't need counseling, so it's all a huge waste of time and money.
to play devils advocate...if an underage kid is having 3 beers after a football game; they are willingly taking part in an at risk behavior which could be the symptom of an underlying problem. The kid who has 3 beers may be developing into the kid with drinking problems and they are trying to curb it.
That said, I can see why they want to do it, but I really don't like it.
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i totally forgot that on thursday chief justice john roberts is speaking to our 1L class and teaching a constitutional law seminar. so maybe ill ask him what he thinks
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well I guess that's one way to find out.
we do random drug testing of the athletes at the university I'm at and refusal to be tested (or even missing a test w/o prior notice) is equivolent to a positive finding (at least in disciplinary action...nothing on a medical / personal record that I'm aware of). Again, at this HS there's no repurcussions for a positive test...just counseling and parental notification. So even if the kid refuses and they treat it as + nothing really changes.
These American teens drink a beer and they get counseling?
Well maybe it's because you're allowed to drive when you're 16 in the states. In Europe, it's usually 18 (or 17 and a few months or something like that).
But anyway, they get counseling? This whole thing is insane!
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A kid with a drinking problem is going to exhibit other symptoms (falling grades, poor attendance, etc.), so you don't need a test to find those kids, all you have to do is pay attention. And the kid who has three beers after the football game doesn't need counseling, so it's all a huge waste of time and money.
but it's so much easier to just say that alcohol is the cause of all the kids' problems and give a test and label the failing kids as needing counseling than actually have to pay attention on a daily basis, get to know the kids, and tailor solutions to their situations. one size fits all approaches are so much cheaper and less demanding.
they will test for alcohol, meanwhile their student body ingests LOADS of prescription drugs for a variety of BS reasons.
the prescription drug epidemic is quite frightening considering it is accepted and supported by most professionals and parents.
we are raising a nation of pill popping zombies, mark my words.
to play devils advocate...if an underage kid is having 3 beers after a football game; they are willingly taking part in an at risk behavior which could be the symptom of an underlying problem. The kid who has 3 beers may be developing into the kid with drinking problems and they are trying to curb it.
That said, I can see why they want to do it, but I really don't like it.