2008 canidates and marriages - the party of family values???
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After the Gingrich admission of his affair during the Clinton impeachment and Guiliani's famous troubles I did a little research on the top 5 candidates (ranked by the national journal) and their commitment to the institution of marriage. Kinda funny how the party of family values compares with those liberals and their lack of morals.
Republicans:
John McCain - 1 divorce
Rudy Giuliani - 1 annulment, 1 divorce, an alleged affair with his communications director and an affair with the woman who would become his 3rd wife.
Mitt Romney - still with first wife
Sam Brownback - still with first wife
Newt Gingrich - divorced first wife while she was recovering from cancer and refused to pay alimony or child support. Divorced second wife while having an affair with a staffer who became this third wife.
Totals: 4 divorces, 1 annulment and 3 reported affairs
Democrats:
Hilary Clinton - still with first husband
Barak Obama - still with first wife
John Edwards - still with first wife
Bill Richardson - still with first wife
Chris Dodd - 1 divorce
Totals: 1 divorce
Republicans:
John McCain - 1 divorce
Rudy Giuliani - 1 annulment, 1 divorce, an alleged affair with his communications director and an affair with the woman who would become his 3rd wife.
Mitt Romney - still with first wife
Sam Brownback - still with first wife
Newt Gingrich - divorced first wife while she was recovering from cancer and refused to pay alimony or child support. Divorced second wife while having an affair with a staffer who became this third wife.
Totals: 4 divorces, 1 annulment and 3 reported affairs
Democrats:
Hilary Clinton - still with first husband
Barak Obama - still with first wife
John Edwards - still with first wife
Bill Richardson - still with first wife
Chris Dodd - 1 divorce
Totals: 1 divorce
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Yes, every republican candidate that had a divorce is totally innocent and just married the wrong person. Critically think much?
What can i say, The Newt is a ladies man. That Gingrich, so hot right now
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Ignorance is Strength
It's when people keep claiming to hold teh moral high ground when they have demonstarted to have no right to it that is a big issue here.
Conservative parties everywhere claim to be the keepers of "family values". This is a fascinating insight into the dubious nature of those claims.
I'll bet all of these married guys have fornicated with the opposite sex. That may be the first thing you've ever said that is right.
it lists hillary as still with first husband but we "know" her husband cheated. how do we know the others haven't cheated or their spouses haven't? we don't. we don't know the whys of any of those relationships. we don't know if the wife wanted it because she couldn't handle the pressure of public life or that he caught her cheating and kept it private n divorced her. there are at least 4 sides to every 'political' divorce...his, hers, the media's and the truth. so which is more along the lines of family values? divorce or remain with a cheater or put up with any other fuckery? point being that in general, marital status doesn't really justify nor void their claims of morality except in extreme cases.
now rudy n newt seem to be into serial marriage and general assholedness. so if rudy n newt are talking about morals, yeah they have no right. the majority of those listed? we still don't know. so, as to this being insightful, not really. 2 out of 10 politicians n those being newt n rudy are really no surprise.
newt was the chief crusader for family values in the 90s. following shortly in his footsteps was ted haggard. you might remember him as the guy recently disgraced for doing crystal meth with male prostitutes in his hotel room.
point being, the people using "family values" for political gain dont give a flying fuck about moral values and are simply using it to manipulate voters who would otherwise never vote for them becos their policies fuck them on a daily basis. the sooner these voters wake the fuck up and realize they're being played, the better off we all will be.
my point was that the stats posted really aren't anything you can base an opinion on. we still don't know who's fucking who, who's snorting coke off a male hooker's dick while his wife's at home, or who's only having sex with his/her partner. mostly all it states is that rudy n newt are major offenders. but that in itself is by no means anything new. personally, i don't believe much out of any politicians mouth.
Thanks for finding that Matlock.
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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*btw, Rudy married his cousin, he claimed he didn't know they were closely related, and got the annulment after 14 yrs of marriage - or something like that, I don't have time to look up the exact facts.
That's why we have Gonzales heading the Justice Department. They'll find or fabricate the dirt, Karl will see to that, because he's still pissed at the coverage of Newt and Cheney having homosexuals in their families.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Amen. We are living in a tabloid world so it doesn't surprise me in the least when this is brought up. Kinda sad. :(
No, you should be thinking. The last thing we need is more amateur politicians thinking less.
I'm just not a fan of negative campaigning. It diverts attention from all the important issues and makes a mockery of our already pathetic election process. I say make them look foolish by not dropping down to their level.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I don't know, I guess it's a thin line. I'm thinking if I were a candidate getting hammered on "family values" by someone who doesn't value his own family, I'd have a really hard time not saying anything about it. But I definitely understand where you're coming from.
Politics is a nasty business.
Agreed. I know I'd have a hard time, as well. I'm just very wary of this 'make you look worse than me' style campaigns we've all come to know so well.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
The sad part is I don't foresee this ever changing. I really hope it does but I think people will start to think of elections like American Idol. One big reality show. :(
Maybe it would stop if one or both parties decided to make being against negative campaigning part of their platform. But what really bothers me is, both parties are really quite similar when it comes down to it. There is never any real change. And they use this negative campaigning to draw attention away from this fact so they don't have to answer the tough questions or really say anything about how they will actually change this country for the better. They just use buzz phrases to get applause and tell people what they want to hear then get in office and end up doing just more of the same old crap for the next 4 years.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I'll let someone smarter convey my thoughts.
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Well, you know
We all want to change the world.
Tou tell me that it’s evolution,
Well, you know
We all want to change the world.
But when you talk about destruction,
Don’t you know that you can count me out.
Don’t you know it’s going to be alright,
Alright, alright.
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We’d all love to see the plan.
You ask me for a contribution,
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We’re doing what we can.
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You tell me it’s the institution,
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You better free your mind instead.
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao,
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Don’t you know it’s going to be alright,
Alright, alright.
Who said that?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
oh but that guy has charisma and that is apparently now a bad thing. so nevermind anything he actually says about anything.
"Everybody has personal issues," Obama said. "And I think, ultimately, what people want to know is what are you going to do on behalf of the American people -- and that's how it should be."
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