drug testing at the workplace......
SPEEDY MCCREADY
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whats everyone's point of view???
invasion of privacy???
should the companies have the right to drug test????
just curious.....
i have to submit to 2-5 random tests a year.....and i dont have a problem with it....
invasion of privacy???
should the companies have the right to drug test????
just curious.....
i have to submit to 2-5 random tests a year.....and i dont have a problem with it....
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Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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Drug tests, imo, should only be given if you fuck up, get hurt, etc. Or upon first hiring you. Not randomly. What I do on my time, as long as it doesnt affect my work, isnt my work's business.
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He had one hell of a career didn't he?
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
what you do in your free time is your own business....but if it involves showing up to work stoned and putting the safety of others in jeopardy then there is something wrong in my opinion...
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Showing up at work stoned= bad
Getting stoned at home after work= who cares?
Getting nailed for failing a piss test when you follow those two things, = bullshit.
Do drug tests only determine whether you use drugs? Or do they actually let them know WHEN you were using drugs?
I guess this would also depend what you do for a living, of course. Not everyone's job puts their safety in the hands of those around you.
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I have a problem with them testing for marijuana. Even if you do it once in a while it can still show up as a positive weeks later. And if you use it, it has no effect concerning safety to others at the workplace. Obviously you should not use it at work or drive immediately afterwards.
All of the worse drugs leave your system quickly. In some ways I'd like a way to get rid of the creepy personalities of crappy drug users, but then again, if you do your job well it should not be the business of your company what you do at home. Thats the position I would take I guess. If you have "a problem" it will be visible and actions could then be taken.
And as I said, you should not use when you are "on the job".
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
everyone here knows i drive semis for a living....not the most glamorous of jobs....
but every day im behind that wheel....with 40,000 lbs of freight traveling the highways with 200 gallons of diesel fuel in the rig.....
im a loaded weapon....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
When you become an employee in a business you must abide by their rules. Accepting the rules are a part of becoming an employee, it isn't an invasion of privacy. You don't have to work there. You may choose to go somewhere that does not have drug testing.
End of story.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
But having a drug test for when you have just started a position is something I agree with, along with criminal checks and police records...
A random drug test doesn't really have any barings on what you believe it may or may not prove. If random drug testing is a part of a companys policy you must abide by that policy. And you had better not fail them.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
How about alcohol testing?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Bingo
If "stoned" on the job fire them.
If We were writing up the law now is that a compromise that 100% supporters could accept?
1998 Seattle 7-21
2000 Seattle 11-06
2003 Seattle Benaroya 10-22
2005 Gorge 9-1
2006 Gorge 7-23
almost 20 years experience driving semis....and i dont have 1 moving violation......
*toots his own horn*
hehehehehehehehehehehehehe.................
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Besides, most truck drivers, if they are of the "drug using whilst working" type, are on speed, a much different and more dangerous drug than marijuana. Correct me if Im wrong. Surely you know a few drivers who use speed to get it done.
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and you no longer have my vote for president......after that comment....
hahahahahahahaha...........
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
You'd think that drugs were the cause of all accidents, the way people use that as a reason to meddle in the private lives of employees. Frankly, when I get on the plane on Tuesday, I don't give a rat's ass if the pilot smoked a joint on Friday night. I don't care if the guy driving the semi did a few lines last weekend, or celebrated his birthday with some shrooms, or whatever. I'm a lot more interested in how much sleep he had last night, or if he's in the middle of a nasty divorce and can't concentrate, or if he pounded back three beers at lunch today, and random drug tests can't tell me any of those things.
Now if there are work performance issues, some reason to believe someone is showing up stoned for work, that's another story. But I'm old fashioned, I still believe that you shouldn't have to prove your innocence in this country, either to the government or to your employer, and I think forcing you to piss in a cup in order to keep your job is an unreasonable seizure despite what the Supreme Court says, and I would never work for a company that did it.
hello hippie......
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i have always felt a great respect for truck drivers. they have a huge responsibility and their job can be quite dangerous.
the prospect of being on the highway next to an altered truck driver is truly frightening. so yeah, thanks speedy.
so yes, drug screens are absolutely necessary.
i used to work in an occupational medical facility that did hundreds of
pre employment, accident related and random drug screens weekly.
suprisingly, very very few ever came back positive. like 1-2% tops.
it's not an invasion of privacy...you're asking THEM for a job...there are issues of safety and productivity that have long been shown to negatively affected by drug and alcohol abuse...
from my window to yours
..at least he took the time to explain those ignorant fucking views. That's a greater contribution than the one you just made.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
Wait, he was serious?
*waves to Speedy*
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
I just figured it was like what hippiemom said...just busting her...ba..lls....
uh........
giving her a hard time.