democrats.......

SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,598
edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
congrats....

the house and the senate are yours.......

whats on the agenda???
what are the important issues we need to look at to get our country moving in the right direction????
Take me piece by piece.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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  • Bush is an idiot!!!!!
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • icarus wrote:
    everything the republicans failed at?


    lol Wow. Brilliant.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    icarus wrote:
    everything the republicans failed at?

    and here the repubs were thinking the dems didn't have a plan
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  • congrats....

    the house and the senate are yours.......

    whats on the agenda???
    what are the important issues we need to look at to get our country moving in the right direction????

    Well, it could start with its foreign policy. A Bush staffer said: "We're an empire now, we make our own reality." UGH.
  • Well, it could start with its foreign policy. A Bush staffer said: "We're an empire now, we make our own reality." UGH.


    More generalizations for ideas. Nice.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • i am hearing that minimum wage increase, tax reform, universal health care, and uniting the country are the first things on the agenda. after that subpeona powers may be invoked to investigate the pre war intelligence and those responsible for the war drum beating. according to murtha and pelosi people are going to be held accountable for the situation in iraq. this should be interesting.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • i am hearing that minimum wage increase, tax reform, universal health care, and uniting the country are the first things on the agenda. after that subpeona powers may be invoked to investigate the pre war intelligence and those responsible for the war drum beating. according to murtha and pelosi people are going to be held accountable for the situation in iraq. this should be interesting.

    Can I interpret that for ya? K, thanks.

    I am hearing that businesses will be cutting jobs, raising our taxes, longer waits at the ER along with doctors turning away patients, and generally alienating the public. We will stonewall the congress into a state of inoperation through investigations and impeachment proceedings. Did I really make the right choices?
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    What should be on the agenda is immigration, some serious tax reform, and reducing wastefull spending.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Can I interpret that for ya? K, thanks.

    I am hearing that businesses will be cutting jobs, raising our taxes, longer waits at the ER along with doctors turning away patients, and generally alienating the public. We will stonewall the congress into a state of inoperation through investigations and impeachment proceedings. Did I really make the right choices?
    hahahaha.............
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • mammasan wrote:
    What should be on the agenda is immigration, some serious tax reform, and reducing wastefull spending.


    I strongly agree with 2 of your 3 points.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • More generalizations for ideas. Nice.

    Do you often quote yourself, or are ya just bored silly ? And as for explicit ideas, the Bush administration had explicit information and pissed on it. In the case of Iraq per se, a State Dept report outlined exactly what the U.S. should do - but it was dismissed out of hand. Of course the State dept doesn't mean shit in this administration, so whaddya expect ? Too bad, b/c the multi-volume report was incredibly accurate in terms of what to expect there.

    But, you know, criticise me b/c i disagree with statements from a neo-con hack or another right-wing Yankee asshole that the U.S. "should mow the whole place down". Dude, save your snide dumbass comments for the likes of Trent Lott. Its people like him that got the U.S. into the shithole that its in right now. Coming here after the fact, and expecting Democrats to instantly clean up the cesspool left by those filthy republican bastards, is laughable and unconscionable.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I strongly agree with 2 of your 3 points.


    Which one do you disagree with?
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    I strongly agree with 2 of your 3 points.
    So you think the tax breaks that were given to the richest 1% of the country shouldn't be repealed even though we are n debt beyond our wildest dreams and you also think there should be no investigation into the pre war intelligence and those responsible for the war because that could really bring to light some awful truths. But I bet you supported the waste of time that was the Clinton impeachment.....that he by the way won.
  • aNiMaL wrote:
    So you think the tax breaks that were given to the richest 1% of the country shouldn't be repealed even though we are n debt beyond our wildest dreams and you also think there should be no investigation into the pre war intelligence and those responsible for the war because that could really bring to light some awful truths. But I bet you supported the waste of time that was the Clinton impeachment.....that he by the way won.

    Umm.... Shhhhhh! Clinton was impeached. Being impeached at the conclusion of impeachment proceeding doesn't make you a winner.

    Why would you assume that I disagree with tax reform? That's not very liberal of you. You're a party of ideas, acceptance. Come on...

    And there was nothing in that post about pre-war intelligence. But if you must know, all the major intelligence agencies worldwide which agreed in whole in reguards with Saddam Hussien having WMDs, still stand by that assessment. That information was not fabricated by Bush or his administration. The intelligence community may have let this administration down, in a variety of ways, but no one lied to you.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Plus, to even propose this question to poster on a message board as though we were all just elected as Senators and Representatives.

    The need to define what we all agree is victory in Iraq.....in other words reel the President back in a little and lets finally map out a victory and exit strategy from Iraq. Also I would love to see the 9/11 commission reccomendations enacted.

    But yeah, unlike the waste of time the Clinton impeachment was, I do think an investigation about how we got into this mess called the Iraq war IS necessary which is a million times more important than Bubba lying about getting a hummer.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    As much as I would love to see Bush squirm under oath before Congress, I don't think it would be would be the best idea for the Dems to go at him right now. First they need to focus on some issues closer to home that they can get approved, Immigration would be a good one since the Dems and the White House have a similiar resolution to the problem. Taxreformto meis a huge one, but I'm not talking about repealing some taxcuts. I'm talking about taking the entire tax code as it is and chucking that shit out the window. Weneed to completely revamp taxes in this country. This one may be a bit harder to get through but I believe they need to agressively push it. If the Dems want to go after Bush they should do it after the have a couple of successes under their belts and have earned the countries confidence.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Umm.... Shhhhhh! Clinton was impeached. Being impeached at the conclusion of impeachment proceeding doesn't make you a winner.
    Clinton won his impeachment. He was found Not Guilty and acquitted on all charges brought against him in the Impeachment Trial. Get it, it's a trial, not a verdict. The only thing that came of that was a HUGE waste of government time and dollars.
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    And there was nothing in that post about pre-war intelligence. But if you must know, all the major intelligence agencies worldwide which agreed in whole in reguards with Saddam Hussien having WMDs, still stand by that assessment. That information was not fabricated by Bush or his administration. The intelligence community may have let this administration down, in a variety of ways, but no one lied to you.
    I think we'll let our elected officials make that call....not you or me who only know what you think you know.

    It's all about truth finding, my friend.
  • aNiMaL wrote:
    I think we'll let our elected officials make that call....not you or me who only know what you think you know.

    It's all about truth finding, my friend.


    I knew there was a good reason for raising my taxes.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    I knew there was a good reason for raising my taxes.
    No, that will be to pay off the outrageous spending that has happened over the last 6 years. Have you seen how much our deficit has increased in recent years? You should check it out. Our country is in debt beyond our wildest dreams. How did you propose we pay it off if not by taxes?
  • But if you must know, all the major intelligence agencies worldwide which agreed in whole in reguards with Saddam Hussien having WMDs, still stand by that assessment. That information was not fabricated by Bush or his administration. The intelligence community may have let this administration down, in a variety of ways, but no one lied to you.

    This is pure unadulterated bullshit. The truth is that, on the contrary, intelligence agencies from many wetsern countries had warned Bush et al about the dubious nature of their claims. The German intel org'ns warned the U.S. repeatedly, only to have those warnings brushed aside. It was the Germans who first ran into Curveball, and from where all those claims about Iraq originated. In fact, a call was placed to Colin Powell the very night before his infamous presentation to the UN (Feb. '03) telling him that the information he was about to present was bullshit. He went with it anyways, and now we see the result. There are numerous examples of the administartion knowing that their intel was questionable or downright wrong, but where they proceeded anyway. To me that's misleading and wrong. They fucking knew but spread the lies anyway b/c it helped their cause.
  • JD SalJD Sal Posts: 790
    aNiMaL wrote:
    No, that will be to pay off the outrageous spending that has happened over the last 6 years. Have you seen how much our deficit has increased in recent years? You should check it out. Our country is in debt beyond our wildest dreams. How did you propose we pay it off if not by taxes?

    Exactimundo.
    "If no one sees you, you're not here at all"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,446
    aNiMaL wrote:
    How did you propose we pay it off if not by taxes?


    Cut spending.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Cut spending.

    I say start with the US Department of Education, then the IRS, privatize NASA.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • aNiMaL wrote:
    No, that will be to pay off the outrageous spending that has happened over the last 6 years. Have you seen how much our deficit has increased in recent years? You should check it out. Our country is in debt beyond our wildest dreams. How did you propose we pay it off if not by taxes?

    On January 1st, 1790 the national debt was $52 million dollars. That, my friend, is a debt beyond my wildest dreams. Spending has never slowed. The debt has never stopped growing. This administration is not unique in any way. I know more than enough about our government spending.

    (Please no Clinton comments. "Balancing the Budget" is not reducing the debt.)

    Eliminating pork barrel spending is an issue I would begin to dissect as a means to begin paying off the national debt.

    Taxpayers should be allowed to check a box on their tax returns so that up to 10 percent of their payments can go for one purpose; reducing the national debt. Eliminating a dollar for spending for each dollar 'donated' would also help as Bush presented in his inauguration speech is another idea. Emphasis on presented.

    Telling Congress to stop borrowing money is another. Unfortunately I'm not their mother.

    Trying to convince a politician to stop wasteful spending is also unfortunately a battle the people may never win. Thank your local lobbyist for that.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,446
    mammasan wrote:
    I say start with the US Department of Education, then the IRS, privatize NASA.


    That is a tremendous shortlist. Well done. Why doesn't anyone do this?
    hippiemom = goodness
  • enharmonicenharmonic Posts: 1,917
    If you ran your personal finances the way Bush has run the government's fiances, you'd be sitting in prison right now and all of your assets would be seized.

    How do you pay off an 8 trillion dollar deficit?

    Raise taxes. That's about all you can do. Sorry, there's no free lunch for what the Bush administration did to this country. The dollar is practically Monopoly money at this point. We need a financial recovery plan, and pronto. That tax cut to the ultra rich didn't fix the deficit. In fact, it has grown exponentially.
  • JD SalJD Sal Posts: 790
    On January 1st, 1790 the national debt was $52 million dollars. That, my friend, is a debt beyond my wildest dreams. Spending has never slowed. The debt has never stopped growing. This administration is not unique in any way. I know more than enough about our government spending...

    Iraq is costing $10,000 a minute.

    The 215-year-old national debt has doubled under six years of Bush. It was 4 trillion when he took office and now it’s 8 trillion.

    Doesn’t somebody have to pay for this? It's not who's raising taxes, but when.
    "If no one sees you, you're not here at all"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,446
    If you spend too much...if gas prices go up, and heating oil prices rise...etc...etc....etc...

    How do you make ends meet????? Can you giv eyourself a pay raise to get more income???? No? You can't? You sure? Then what do you do?????

    Oh yeah, you cut your spending. You prioritize where your dollars are going. Why don;t we expect the same from our government? Why are you ok with them just taking more of your money?
    hippiemom = goodness
  • JD Sal wrote:
    Iraq is costing $10,000 a minute.

    The 215-year-old national debt has doubled under six years of Bush. It was 4 trillion when he took office and now it’s 8 trillion.

    Doesn’t somebody have to pay for this? It's not who's raising taxes, but when.


    I just gave you some reasons why the debt is increasing and some ways to help begin paying it off. Please, stop questioning me and think for yourself for a few moments. i'm not an answer machine.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
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