For the same reason the ethiopian child raised in the white family is. Because, sadly enough, ALOT of people in the country would take one, cursory glance at the man and call him "N****r".
The "Black" gene is stronger than the "white" gene, so as others here have already said quite simply, he looks Black. Also whether you believe in it or not, cultural heritage, not only exists, it is a very powerful thing. Perhaps even more powerful than melanin or hair texture. My guess, (and i'm not sure), is that aside from looking Black, he was probably raised on a Black street. on a Blacl block, in a black neighborhood with a Black CULTURAL background. Its quite simple, and there is absolutely NOTHING wrongwith it.
There is nothing wrong with being who you are.
But...I think there is something wrong with labeling yourself or others...especially when that label is inaccurate.
It's time for people on both sides of this to realize that the labels perpetuate the stereotypes. You'll always have the stereotypes if you have the labels.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I don't know. I don't believe in cultural heritage.
My question is why do people who are mixed - and that includes every one of us - have to claim a race?
i dont think they do. but if they look more like a black man, they will have spent their whole life being treated as a black man. which would make them identify much more with that cultural heritage than the heritage neutral white upbringing.
have you seen the good sheperd? there's a great quote in there about why you probably do not understand the concept of cultural heritage.
The "Black" gene is stronger than the "white" gene, so as others here have already said quite simply, he looks Black.
By that I assume you mean the gene that affects skin pigmentation? Because after all, that is what we are talking about- the black or white refers to skin pigmentation alone. Everything else is a combination of nature (genetic make up affecting physiological and personality traits that are indapendent of skin pigmentation) and nurture (environmental influences which are not dictated by skin pigmentation).
Maybe that goes both ways. I honestly can only remember one or two times in my entire life where someone used that word...and maybe not even that many
(other than rappers, of course)
regardless of whether or not they say, most people think it. or even if they dont think "nigger" they start making assumptions about the person's characteristics based on their looks. that's just human nature. it applies to blacks, mexicans, hicks, dumb blondes. we all form judgments based on people's external appearances. and when the political process is highly dependent upon brief soundbites and video clips, it's going to be an issue.
regardless of whether or not they say, most people think it. or even if they dont think "nigger" they start making assumptions about the person's characteristics based on their looks. that's just human nature. it applies to blacks, mexicans, hicks, dumb blondes. we all form judgments based on people's external appearances. and when the political process is highly dependent upon brief soundbites and video clips, it's going to be an issue.
OK, now you somehow know what most people are thinking? Yeah right
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I don't know. It's stupid. I've tried to point that out on this forum before, but people just don't get it.
Also, it's not as simple as half and half. EVERYONE of us is of mixed pedigree. There's no denying it. It's time to lose those labels as they are meaningless. It's time to just start judging people for who they are rather than what their label is.
I notice this strange need to label people whenever I fill out a form that asks about this...
It irks me that there's a slant to these forms...I have the choice of being "Caucasian" or "Non-Caucasian/Hispanic" and it seems strange to me.
What about people like me who are a mixture of Hispanic and Caucasian...WE DON'T EXIST? I have to be called a Non-Caucasian because I'm one quarter Hispanic?
And why is that made to seem like it's a negative thing?!
It burns me up whenever I see that on a form. It seems like the sub-text is "you're white and okay or you're a minority."
By that I assume you mean the gene that affects skin pigmentation? Because after all, that is what we are talking about- the black or white refers to skin pigmentation alone. Everything else is a combination of nature (genetic make up affecting physiological and personality traits that are indapendent of skin pigmentation) and nurture (environmental influences which are not dictated by skin pigmentation).
quite obviously
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
OK, now you somehow know what most people are thinking? Yeah right
What soulsinging is referring to is the concept known as implicit association, and it is a well documented and statistically supported aspect of the human mind. It might be a difficult concept to be open to seeing as how it isn't in the bible 'n all, but not everything there is to know is in the bible.
Look, tell that to the Black guy in a sports car getting pulled over for no apparent reason. Tell it to the Korean shop owner consatntly getting harrased. Tell to the indiginous population of the United States. Tell it to the mexican guy whos family has been here for several generations.
Or tell it to the white kid who didnt get into the college of his choice because the university had a quota they had obligations to fill..........................................that counts too right?
I notice this strange need to label people whenever I fill out a form that asks about this...
It irks me that there's a slant to these forms...I have the choice of being "Caucasian" or "Non-Caucasian/Hispanic" and it seems strange to me.
What about people like me who are a mixture of Hispanic and Caucasian...WE DON'T EXIST? I have to be called a Non-Caucasian because I'm one quarter Hispanic?
And why is that made to seem like it's a negative thing?!
It burns me up whenever I see that on a form. It seems like the sub-text is "you're white and okay or you're a minority."
It makes me angry.
I check "Other".
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
You know, my mother has blond hair and my dad has black hair. Back when I had hair, I never considered it half-blond or half-black. I considered it black. Was I therefore denying my mother's cultural HAIRitage?
Or tell it to the white kid who didnt get into the college of his choice because the university had a quota they had obligations to fill..........................................that counts too right?
keep up on your current affairs buddy... quotas have been ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court. no white kid is being denied college admissions solely becos he's white and they want a black kid. nice rhetoric though, keep trying. you'll say something smart one day!
keep up on your current affairs buddy... quotas have been ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court. no white kid is being denied college admissions solely becos he's white and they want a black kid. nice rhetoric though, keep trying. you'll say something smart one day!
You beat me to it. I do love how people throw affirmative action, specifically quotes, around as a form of reverse discrimination, considering that it's not even apractice that is used anymore. Yes their are cases of reverse discrimination in regards to Affirmative Action but by no means does it mean that white people will never het a job or into college if their is a minority candidate competeing with them as well. Minorities need to stop relying on their ethnicity as a crutch and whites need to stop crying foul simply because they don't a get a job or into a school.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
A couple things to think about:
1) I think the "race" thing is a crock of shit. Let's go back to science...Kingdom, Phylem, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species.....humans are humans, and we are a species, if anything, the HUMAN race. Race as far as whites, blacks, hispanic, etc...I believe was created for more of a cultural & social lines that has created more harm than good. We are all humans!
2) My ancestory is Swiss-German, but I don't feel the need to call myself Swiss-American, or German-American. If you feel the freckin need to call yourself African-American, I think you need to be born there. I can understand that. But I don't buy "my ancestors were from there..". Whatever, get over yourself.
A couple things to think about:
1) I think the "race" thing is a crock of shit. Let's go back to science...Kingdom, Phylem, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species.....humans are humans, and we are a species, if anything, the HUMAN race. Race as far as whites, blacks, hispanic, etc...I believe was created for more of a cultural & social lines that has created more harm than good. We are all humans!
2) My ancestory is Swiss-German, but I don't feel the need to call myself Swiss-American, or German-American. If you feel the freckin need to call yourself African-American, I think you need to be born there. I can understand that. But I don't buy "my ancestors were from there..". Whatever, get over yourself.
"We are all human..." Thats very sweet. I don't disagree. Racial discrimination is shit. But, again try telling that to the Black guy trying to catch a fucking cab!
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
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There is nothing wrong with being who you are.
But...I think there is something wrong with labeling yourself or others...especially when that label is inaccurate.
It's time for people on both sides of this to realize that the labels perpetuate the stereotypes. You'll always have the stereotypes if you have the labels.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I'll agree with that. I think the people who would take one look at him and use that word are a very, very small minority.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
i'd say you both are VERY naive.
Maybe that goes both ways. I honestly can only remember one or two times in my entire life where someone used that word...and maybe not even that many
(other than rappers, of course)
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
i dont think they do. but if they look more like a black man, they will have spent their whole life being treated as a black man. which would make them identify much more with that cultural heritage than the heritage neutral white upbringing.
have you seen the good sheperd? there's a great quote in there about why you probably do not understand the concept of cultural heritage.
By that I assume you mean the gene that affects skin pigmentation? Because after all, that is what we are talking about- the black or white refers to skin pigmentation alone. Everything else is a combination of nature (genetic make up affecting physiological and personality traits that are indapendent of skin pigmentation) and nurture (environmental influences which are not dictated by skin pigmentation).
regardless of whether or not they say, most people think it. or even if they dont think "nigger" they start making assumptions about the person's characteristics based on their looks. that's just human nature. it applies to blacks, mexicans, hicks, dumb blondes. we all form judgments based on people's external appearances. and when the political process is highly dependent upon brief soundbites and video clips, it's going to be an issue.
OK, now you somehow know what most people are thinking? Yeah right
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I notice this strange need to label people whenever I fill out a form that asks about this...
It irks me that there's a slant to these forms...I have the choice of being "Caucasian" or "Non-Caucasian/Hispanic" and it seems strange to me.
What about people like me who are a mixture of Hispanic and Caucasian...WE DON'T EXIST? I have to be called a Non-Caucasian because I'm one quarter Hispanic?
And why is that made to seem like it's a negative thing?!
It burns me up whenever I see that on a form. It seems like the sub-text is "you're white and okay or you're a minority."
It makes me angry.
pretty much, yeah. have you seen the good sheperd?
quite obviously
What soulsinging is referring to is the concept known as implicit association, and it is a well documented and statistically supported aspect of the human mind. It might be a difficult concept to be open to seeing as how it isn't in the bible 'n all, but not everything there is to know is in the bible.
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
Or tell it to the white kid who didnt get into the college of his choice because the university had a quota they had obligations to fill..........................................that counts too right?
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I check "Other".
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
keep up on your current affairs buddy... quotas have been ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court. no white kid is being denied college admissions solely becos he's white and they want a black kid. nice rhetoric though, keep trying. you'll say something smart one day!
You beat me to it. I do love how people throw affirmative action, specifically quotes, around as a form of reverse discrimination, considering that it's not even apractice that is used anymore. Yes their are cases of reverse discrimination in regards to Affirmative Action but by no means does it mean that white people will never het a job or into college if their is a minority candidate competeing with them as well. Minorities need to stop relying on their ethnicity as a crutch and whites need to stop crying foul simply because they don't a get a job or into a school.
1) I think the "race" thing is a crock of shit. Let's go back to science...Kingdom, Phylem, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species.....humans are humans, and we are a species, if anything, the HUMAN race. Race as far as whites, blacks, hispanic, etc...I believe was created for more of a cultural & social lines that has created more harm than good. We are all humans!
2) My ancestory is Swiss-German, but I don't feel the need to call myself Swiss-American, or German-American. If you feel the freckin need to call yourself African-American, I think you need to be born there. I can understand that. But I don't buy "my ancestors were from there..". Whatever, get over yourself.
"We are all human..." Thats very sweet. I don't disagree. Racial discrimination is shit. But, again try telling that to the Black guy trying to catch a fucking cab!