So how exactly did we bring freedom to Iraq???
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People are forced into confessions???
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/08/iraq.deathpenalty/index.html
What the FUCK are we wasting our money on!!! This isn't part of the freaking cival war. This is part of the new "freedom loving" Iraq we were supposed to set up.
Brillaint job ass fuck Bush. Iraq is so much better off, you jackass I once supported. What a fucking waste of 3,000+ American lives and billions of dollars.
Alllllll... for NOTHING.
I seriously voted for Bush once... If I ever see him in public I'm going to spit at his face!
Above all IRAQ IS A WASTE OF LIVES, RESOURCES AND MONEY!!!, but I guess since we fucked it, now we have to pay child support the rest of our lives.
Ahhhhh!!!.. that felt better.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/08/iraq.deathpenalty/index.html
What the FUCK are we wasting our money on!!! This isn't part of the freaking cival war. This is part of the new "freedom loving" Iraq we were supposed to set up.
Brillaint job ass fuck Bush. Iraq is so much better off, you jackass I once supported. What a fucking waste of 3,000+ American lives and billions of dollars.
Alllllll... for NOTHING.
I seriously voted for Bush once... If I ever see him in public I'm going to spit at his face!
Above all IRAQ IS A WASTE OF LIVES, RESOURCES AND MONEY!!!, but I guess since we fucked it, now we have to pay child support the rest of our lives.
Ahhhhh!!!.. that felt better.
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Nice dude.
Bush is an arrogant prick, he gives america the bad rap in which we are going to have to live with for a long ass time...he fucked us, he fucked our country and pretty much everything we stand for...
I never remember the people of Iraq sayign that they WANTED democracy...we just came and forced it upon them...but i recall learning in school that America is the land with the view of "freedom of choice"...
So now we are hipocrits???
Bush is an asshole...everytime i see his shit eating grin I get sick to my stomach...iw ould pay money put a loogey in his face
and from me to Dubya- Thanks for making me an unproud american.
Selfish, money loving asshole.
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I have to ask, why did you ever support him?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070507/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_baghdad_shrine_3
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I don't know... but, I think that is closer to 'emboldening the enemy' than my vocal opposition to the War. The Mahdi Army has ties to Iran and more than likely behind the types of weapons used against our troops over there. They are also the ones most likely to be the Death Squads that roam the streets at night and dump the headless bodies in the gutters by sunrise.
I guess, nothing says 'Freedom' like Death Squads and beheadings.
Hail, Hail!!!
God must have put in a request for more souls one night in deep prayer.
Bush...my gosh...what a model man of god if there ever was one.
Dear Lord and Saviour what should I do in the Middle East? Bomb them? Shoot and Kill them...rampage, burn, and destroy them? Ok....yes....my sacred Lord... thy will be done.
"Jesus loves the little children...all the children of the world."
Yay....
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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Ah, wasn't this one of the arguments used by people who opposed the war, BEFORE it even began ???
And ya, the U.S. gov't is often hypocritical in its foreign affairs. The U.S. wants countries around the globe to be accountable for its actions.... meanwhile, America goes out of its way to avoid accountability vis-a-vis its own actions, which, as we all know, have hardly been innocent or legal in many respects.
Or what about different countries having to give complete disclosure about any nuclear developments within its borders, as the U.S. then turns a blind eye toward Israel who never lets the IAEA know about its nuclear program. Why ????... Because its in the "the club" ???? Sorry, not a good enough reason in my books.
but does our press report it? Did anyone see this in the media?
That's not REALLY Democracy... we have to approve it first, because... you see... they really don't know how it works, yet.
Hail, Hail!!!
Why that's easy!! We are doing our best to help free them from life.
And look at the bright side... you'll never suffer from headaches again... once your head is removed.
Hail, Hail!!!
I didn't see this reported anywhere. I just checked the Independent newspapers online edition but couldn't see it reported there. Hmm, maybe that upstart 'Chomsky' fella was on to something after all?
Seems that a unified Iraq is just what Blair and the Bush's oil barons don't want. A nationalist, unified Iraq with the Western greed heads having to release their grip on Iraq's natural resources. As I said before here on the board, this is something they will not do. At least until the body count becomes so high that public opposition to the war becomes unsustainable - even by America's and Britain's puppet media.
'That's a tragic missed opportunity; the nationalists are likely Iraq's best hope for real and lasting reconciliation among the country's warring factions. They are the only significant political force focused on rebuilding a sovereign, united and independent Iraq without sectarian and ethnic tensions or foreign meddling -- from either the West or Iran. Hassan Al-Shammari, the head of Al-Fadhila bloc in the Iraqi parliament, said this week, "We have a peace plan, and we're trying to work with other nationalist Iraqis to end the U.S. and Iranian interventions, but we're under daily attacks and there's huge pressure to destroy our peace mission."
A sovereign and unified Iraq, free of sectarian violence, is what George Bush and Tony Blair claim they want most. The most likely reason that the United States and Britain have rebuffed those Iraqi nationalists who share those goals is that the nationalists oppose permanent basing rights and the privatization of Iraq's oil sector. The administration, along with their allies in Big Oil, has pressed the Iraqi government to adopt an oil law that would give foreign multinationals a much higher rate of return than they enjoy in other major oil producing countries and would lock in their control over what George Bush called Iraq's "patrimony" for decades.
Al-Shammari said this week: "We're afraid the U.S. will make us pass this new oil law through intimidation and threatening. We don't want it to pass, and we know it'll make things worse, but we're afraid to rise up and block it, because we don't want to be bombed and arrested the next day." In the Basrah province, where his Al-Fadhila party dominates the local government, Al-Shammari's fellow nationalists have been attacked repeatedly by separatists for weeks, while British troops in the area remained in their barracks.'
Right! And just imagine the money they'll save on dentists bills?
Fair enough,
I never thought the administration went into Iraq to spread democracy after removing Saddam, and the rest of the reasons they gave...too tired now to list the reasons...
I'm just very surprised the "news" in that link isn't all over...maybe it isn't true?
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I didn't like Gore... and I liked Kerry even less... yet, I STILL voted for them because I didn't want Bush as our President.
In 2000, my reasoning was the Supreme Court. I knew that possibly 3 seats would come up in the first term... definately come up within the second. I feared him nominating a Jerry Falwell/Pat Robertson type as political payback for his contributors. He tried to get Harriet Miers in, but, fortunately the Republicans in the House said, 'Pick again'.
In 2004 it was Iraq. Not gay marriage... not Swift Boats, IRAQ. I don't fall for campaign year trickery like Gay Marriage or Swift Boats because I'M NOT AN IDIOT. The issue was IRAQ!!!
Hail, Hail!!!
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We're at what... half a trillion in the hole already... another 124 billion in discussion.
I'm with you... breaking our addiction to the liquid heroin would mean we wouldn't have to deal with those assholes over there.
Hail, Hail!!!
You know bro, as much as I dislike Bush, I'm happy (well not happy) that he beat kerry. I feel that things need to get bad in order for things to get good.
I said that many times before the 04' election, some people thought I was crazy to feel that way, but now look at the country, things are pretty bad, but I also see a few good things coming around. I'm just a bit sad that things are not turning good fast enough. I really did'nt believe that the avg american was as apathetic as they are. Now they will once again run to the dems and demand nothing, they'll just be happy that's it's not Bush.
That is not progress, it's not change.
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LikeAnOcean voted for Bush in 2000. it's done with, no point in drilling him. My only hope is that people like him will vote just a bit smarter in the future.
I'm also positive that'll happen because LikeAnOcean is a smart guy. he made a mistake. Who has'nt? I have. many times. Will I repeat them? I hope not. That's the true test.
America right now finds itself in a state of great change. Let's not stall it.
I think it's time Americans began redirecting their attention towards the assholes who are closer to home - those liars and murderers who took you into this bullshit war in the first place. Britain and America have done a pretty good job of teaching those evil brown people a lesson. Maybe it's time that Bush and his ilk were taught a lesson too?
Just giving the poppy farmers money (subsidies) to afford to live and not grow poppy or grow another crop would be a zillion times cheaper btw.....for real...
Where's the priorities again? You don't think Bush and clan know this already?
They don't want to stop it...because there's too much money to be made from it.
Fist of all stop thinking Bush and his chums actually care about you and your life....
That's Rule #1... the rest will become crystal clear soon enough.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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The opposition and their future generation have an inspiration/motive for retaliation. That will fester over time and amplify over generations. These people do not easily forget. The US will be forced to keep a military presence in Iraq ....forever?
That 'news' was reported in the UK, France and Belgium (I'm sure other countries, but those are the news bits I listen to/read), but obviously the US would never report anything like that...
Byrnzie... you say "Seems that a unified Iraq is just what Blair and the Bush's oil barons don't want"..... do you really think there could ever be a unified Iraq? Sadly, I think it was only 'unfied' under a dictatorship...
There are HUGE differences between Germany and Iraq. The German Christians and German Catholics weren't running around, killing each other fighting for control over Germany. And the U.S. Military bases were welcomed in West Germany to fend off the Soviet Union from 1945 to 1989 (and through those years after the fall of the Berlin Wall as the former Soviet states struggled with independence). It isn't a fair comparison.
And what if the Democratically elected Iraqi government tells us we have to leave? That's a real possibility because the Shi'ites are now in control of their political machine and are heavily influenced by the spawn of Ayatollah Khomeini. Building 'enduring' bases in Iraq is a high stakes bet... if we leave, the bases stay.
Hail, Hail!!!