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There are 6.6 billion people in the world.

LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
edited February 2007 in A Moving Train
30-something years ago there was about half of that. The population can't keep doubling every generation. What is going to be the breaking point? Starvation? Disease? War?.. I don't want to be around to see it, but this planet can only support so many. People aren't going to just stop having children. Something is going to break.
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  • not4unot4u Posts: 512
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    30-something years ago there was about half of that. The population can't keep doubling every generation. What is going to be the breaking point? Starvation? Disease? War?.. I don't want to be around to see it, but this planet can only support so many. People aren't going to just stop having children. Something is going to break.

    mother nature will take care of us all
    we don't want war, but we still want more?
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,310
    when i become president, there will have to be some sort of child limitation imposed...totally agreed...its one of the hugest problems we face.
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  • sonicreducersonicreducer Posts: 713
    it is too controversial and unethical to propose a mandate on how many children one could have, at least in america, right?

    either big secret gov't will take care of it or some crazy asshole will,...

    or we'll just keep booming until we run out of resources, starve, or get the bubonic plague,...
    you're a real hooker. im gonna slap you in public.
    ~Ron Burgundy
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    not4u wrote:
    mother nature will take care of us all

    exactly...so stop worrying everyone...lol
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    NewJPage wrote:
    when i become president, there will have to be some sort of child limitation imposed...totally agreed...its one of the hugest problems we face.

    get out of this country and go the far east.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    icarus wrote:
    i'd rank this third behind peak oil and climate change

    ????
    so the three big problems

    1.Oil
    2.Climate Change
    3.Population

    i think your thinking should be number one
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    30-something years ago there was about half of that. The population can't keep doubling every generation. What is going to be the breaking point? Starvation? Disease? War?.. I don't want to be around to see it, but this planet can only support so many. People aren't going to just stop having children. Something is going to break.


    Not to sound crass but I usually do. When droughts hit spots that is mother nature doing her thing to thin out the population. When we send help that is us interfering with the will of the world.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Why do you think there's such a high case of AIDS? And what about SARS hitting Asia a few years ago? Population control (Mother Nature's that is).
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    so you are suggesting people have aids and sars because of population control?
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    even flow? wrote:
    Not to sound crass but I usually do. When droughts hit spots that is mother nature doing her thing to thin out the population. When we send help that is us interfering with the will of the world.

    so humans are aliens of the earth...we aren't a part of nature?
  • western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    Eventually the population will plateau. It will have to.
    "Everyone is a patriot in some form or another.... i prefer the intelligent ones."

    "She fell funny"

    "Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Darwin
  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    macgyver06 wrote:
    so you are suggesting people have aids and sars because of population control?
    I'm saying disease is a sort of population control. It's just a theory...
  • western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    western pearl wrote:
    Eventually the population will plateau. It will have to.

    Already started actually:

    http://www.overpopulation.com/faq/basic_information/future_projections.html
    "Everyone is a patriot in some form or another.... i prefer the intelligent ones."

    "She fell funny"

    "Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    lol..just be careful who you say that to :) some people are born with hiv and are born with respiratory problems... i dont know any so im not offended :)
  • western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    danny72688 wrote:
    I'm saying disease is a sort of population control. It's just a theory...

    Disease and culture shift...although medical breathroughs (stem cell) could possibly combat disease.
    "Everyone is a patriot in some form or another.... i prefer the intelligent ones."

    "She fell funny"

    "Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    macgyver06 wrote:
    lol..just be careful who you say that to :) some people are born with hiv and are born with respiratory problems... i dont know any so im not offended :)
    Yeah that was rather harsh of me to say that, but I can't explain it any other way. So sorry to whomever I offend(ed).
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    danny72688 wrote:
    Yeah that was rather harsh of me to say that, but I can't explain it any other way. So sorry to whomever I offend(ed).

    i know what ya mean though..i live in florida and have been trying to convince people the hurricanes are good because the only trees and wildlife left standing afterwards are the strrong trees and dense forest...its sorta the 8.00 premium car wash kinda thing..
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    macgyver06 wrote:
    so humans are aliens of the earth...we aren't a part of nature?


    Nature takes care of nature.

    Some of us may be aliens. How else would you describe the need for money over the planet.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    even flow? wrote:
    Nature takes care of nature.

    Some of us may be aliens. How else would you describe the need for money over the planet.

    are you saying we didnt originate here on earth..

    and that mother nature isnt one living thing?
  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    macgyver06 wrote:
    i know what ya mean though..i live in florida and have been trying to convince people the hurricanes are good because the only trees and wildlife left standing afterwards are the strrong trees and dense forest...its sorta the 8.00 premium car wash kinda thing..
    Yes that is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Nature (hurricanes, tornadoes, volcanic erputions, natural forest fires, disease, etc.) balances itself out when necessary, and whatever can overcome it will survive.
  • western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    danny72688 wrote:
    Yes that is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Nature (hurricanes, tornadoes, volcanic erputions, natural forest fires, disease, etc.) balances itself out when necessary, and whatever can overcome it will survive.

    Although acid rain is really fuckin things up. Other than that, everything that you said is indeed very healthy for the ecosystem.
    "Everyone is a patriot in some form or another.... i prefer the intelligent ones."

    "She fell funny"

    "Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    danny72688 wrote:
    Yes that is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Nature (hurricanes, tornadoes, volcanic erputions, natural forest fires, disease, etc.) balances itself out when necessary, and whatever can overcome it will survive.

    i think McDonalds should be included in that list than :)

    STOP EATING THAT SHIT PEOPLE!!!

    they de-flavor their food so everyone will think its ok..

    yuk..obese bastards!
  • prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    western pearl wrote:
    Although acid rain is really fuckin things up. Other than that, everything that you said is indeed very healthy for the ecosystem.
    Well I think acid rain is because of pollution right? So that would make it an unnatural occurrance and not part of nature's balance.
  • western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    danny72688 wrote:
    Well I think acid rain is because of pollution right? So that would make it an unnatural occurrance and not part of nature's balance.

    Yeah, that's what i was trying to say. I guess it did sound a bit vague
    "Everyone is a patriot in some form or another.... i prefer the intelligent ones."

    "She fell funny"

    "Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    macgyver06 wrote:
    are you saying we didnt originate here on earth..

    and that mother nature isnt one living thing?


    Yes, that is exactly what I am saying.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • bee_boybee_boy Posts: 384
    macgyver06 wrote:
    i think McDonalds should be included in that list than :)

    STOP EATING THAT SHIT PEOPLE!!!

    they de-flavor their food so everyone will think its ok..

    yuk..obese bastards!

    I have to agree with this... I would've been more subtle with the overweight remark though.
  • western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    bee_boy wrote:
    I have to agree with this... I would've been more subtle with the overweight remark though.

    Hard to be subtle w/ such a big epidemic.
    "Everyone is a patriot in some form or another.... i prefer the intelligent ones."

    "She fell funny"

    "Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    icarus wrote:
    i'd rank this third behind peak oil and climate change

    But population increase is also a driving force behind both of those. Increasing population needs increasing amounts of oil, bringing about peak oil in the first place. And the increased population also drives increased industry and increased emissions total. Population out of control and growing outside it's bounds is the biggest problem. Most other social and environmental problems build on that. Over-fishing, over-cutting of wood, general over-usage of most finite resources, pollution, alienation, many social ills as the outside group increases in real numbers if not percentage and so on and on.

    And if we're gonna live through the huge mass of population, we're gonna have to change a lot of things. Just what and how drastic remains to be seen.
    (edit) Just to toss it up, abortion may be the necessary lesser evil, as we basically need just about anything that lowers the birthrates.

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    One thing that is being worked to help w/ water loss is de-salination of ocean water for consumption. This is so expensive though. The only countries that can afford it are the middle eastern countries like the UAE. Good idea but it'll never fly until they make it cheaper.
    "Everyone is a patriot in some form or another.... i prefer the intelligent ones."

    "She fell funny"

    "Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
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