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sonicreducersonicreducer Posts: 713
edited January 2008 in A Moving Train
what would you do if you knew a dude had previously beaten a girl, but you didn't have solid proof? (say you saw a black eye, but didn't take a picture)

im almost positive, unless this girl is canniving as fuck and crazy and a damn good liar, that this dude has hit her more than once.

i contacted the dude and gave him my cell phone number. (i want to kick the mother fucker's ass, but,...) i told him that threatening to kick his ass wouldn't do me any good or any justice. i told him that i wanted to call his family and tell them what he had done. he is in college. he is supposedly a good kid and i just don't know what to do. you don't hit girls. any advice to this pothetic drama???
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    if abuse is happening do what you can to help her get out of that relationship.
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    She needs to stop burning the damn chicken.
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    She needs counselling and support to get her to reject that kind of behaviour, build self esteem, learn to value herself and keep herself safe and away from him if he is going to continue with violence or anyone else that may use violence against her.

    He needs counselling and support to learn how to deal with his anger issues and learn other ways of being in a relationship and dealing with his life besides his fists.

    And you most likely need to talk to a professional about what the best course of action is to support and help her and somehow help him.

    Do you have a counsellor at college you can talk to? That would be a good start I suspect. Sorry if I'm assuming that you are in college, if you aren't then there are domestic violence groups that could be of assistance. I think you did really good not to kick his arse. It's usually the first response from male friends of abused women and it doesn't help. Often what ever you dish out on him, he just saves up and dishes out on her ten fold later when they're alone again. If you can keep your cool, support her and make her feel safe and find some help from professionals in your area I reckon that's the best way to go. Having said all that, it's a huge situation and not an easy one to negotiate, so just do your best, try to stay calm and supportive and hopefully you'll manage a good outcome for all of you. I don't know if that helps. I hope it does. It's much easier being on the outside of the situation looking in.
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  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    You need to convince the girl to get away from this guy first. Anything you do to him will go right back to her from this sick fuck. After she leaves him then do what you need to do. I like the telling his family idea -- embarrassment would be a great payback, especially to someone who likely has hidden this habit for years.
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    what would you do if you knew a dude had previously beaten a girl, but you didn't have solid proof? (say you saw a black eye, but didn't take a picture)

    im almost positive, unless this girl is canniving as fuck and crazy and a damn good liar, that this dude has hit her more than once.

    i contacted the dude and gave him my cell phone number. (i want to kick the mother fucker's ass, but,...) i told him that threatening to kick his ass wouldn't do me any good or any justice. i told him that i wanted to call his family and tell them what he had done. he is in college. he is supposedly a good kid and i just don't know what to do. you don't hit girls. any advice to this pothetic drama???

    Too bad you already threatened him, next time dont say shit. Find out where he parks his car at night, go there with some gas and matches... ;)

    j/k BTW. This actually happened to my friends car because someone confused his car with the the guy who raped his sister.
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    It's hard to say what you should do without having more information, e.g. what your relationship is to these people and what their relationship is to each other. Regardless, domestic violence is always a tricky situation with no right answer. And it's never as simple as saying she should leave. The most dangerous time for a woman in an abusive relationship is when she leaves. At the crisis center where I used to work, they taught us to never tell the woman she should leave - since this could possibly get her killed - but just to provide her with any information and support she might need if she decided to make that choice herself.

    I would probably make sure she had contact information for crisis centers, domestic violence shelters, counselors, etc. (on a very small paper or something he would be unlikely to find), sufficient money & transportation to leave quickly, and a cell phone. [SIDENOTE: There are places, including some cell phone companies, that let you donate old cell phones to women who are victims of domestic violence.] Of course, she could probably use your emotional support as well. Also, there's a pretty good website - domesticviolence.org - that might be helpful to her and to you. And if she's a college student, most universities have some kind of support service for victims of domestic violence. And I totally agree with Jeanie that building up self-esteem is really important.

    If this guys's your best friend or something and you feel like you have some sway with him, maybe talking to him or his family would be helpful - but you just have to make that judgement very carefully because you wouldn't want to piss him off.

    It's so hard to say. I mean, you never know what people are capable of. I think there are some guys out there who hit women who would rather kill them than loose control. But I think there are some guys who have maybe lost their temper and hit a woman once or twice who hopefully could be helped by a recognition of the gravity of their actions and some anger management. Too bad you never really know which is which. Of course, it's completely unacceptable either way.

    Just my two cents...
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    As I was posting, my boyfriend/girlfriend neighbors started having a big fight. Sounds like she's screaming at him to get out and he's screaming at her to not break up with him. Doesn't sound like there's any physical violence, but I guess you can never be sure. Anyone on this thread right now who has any opinions about whether I should I go over there? I don't really know these people.
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    scb wrote:
    As I was posting, my boyfriend/girlfriend neighbors started having a big fight. Sounds like she's screaming at him to get out and he's screaming at her to not break up with him. Doesn't sound like there's any physical violence, but I guess you can never be sure. Anyone on this thread right now who has any opinions about whether I should I go over there? I don't really know these people.

    Can you call the police?
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    Jeanie wrote:
    Can you call the police?

    I think he left. I appreciate your suggestion though.

    That kind of thing's always hard, because so many people (especially, from my experience, college kids like my neighbors) scream at each other when they're angry, but they would never hit one another. If they feel the need to argue that way, I don't want to interrupt. Of course, if anything bad ever happened, I'd feel horrible.

    Thanks again for your suggestion. Sorry if I momentarily hijacked this important thread.
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    scb wrote:
    I think he left. I appreciate your suggestion though.

    That kind of thing's always hard, because so many people (especially, from my experience, college kids like my neighbors) scream at each other when they're angry, but they would never hit one another. If they feel the need to argue that way, I don't want to interrupt. Of course, if anything bad ever happened, I'd feel horrible.

    Thanks again for your suggestion. Sorry if I momentarily hijacked this important thread.


    No worries. :)

    It is always difficult to decide what to do. I think it's better to ring the police and risk a little embarrassment for a potential overeaction than to do too little and regret it because someone was seriously hurt. And it's not like going over yourself would have necessarily been a good thing. Anyway, seems to have ended well enough. :)
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  • thanks all for your responses. im pretty sure she is set up with a counselor now and things are moving forward. i will continue to be there for her and i think the situation has moved in a more preventative way (as in she is being smarter about it and staying away). this dude will get what he deserves, eventually,...
    you're a real hooker. im gonna slap you in public.
    ~Ron Burgundy
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    thanks all for your responses. im pretty sure she is set up with a counselor now and things are moving forward. i will continue to be there for her and i think the situation has moved in a more preventative way (as in she is being smarter about it and staying away). this dude will get what he deserves, eventually,...


    Good to know. Hope she is ok. :)
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