Ron Paul for President... Of the 'Wackos'?

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'NYT': Ron Paul for President -- Of the 'Wackos'?

By E&P Staff

Published: July 20, 2007 3:15 PM ET

NEW YORK A feature piece in this coming Sunday's New York Times Magazine on Republican candidate for president, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, portrays his followers as including a wild mix of "wackos" on both ends of the political spectrum. Paul, a libertarian, has been gaining media and public attention of late.

The cover line reads: "A Genuine Radical for President." The headline inside: "The Antiwar, Anti-Abortion, Anti-Drug-Enforcement-Administration, Anti-medicare Candidacy of Dr. Ron Paul."

The article closes with the author, Christopher Caldwell, attending a Ron Paul Meetup in Pasadena. The co-host, Connie Ruffley of United Republicans of California, admits she once was a member of the radical right John Birch Society and when she asks for a show of hands "quite a few" attendees reveal that they were or are members, too. She refers to Sen. Dianne Feinstein as "Fine-Swine" and attacks Israel, pleasing some while others "walked out."

Caldwell notes that the head of the Pasadena Meetup Group, Bill Dumas, sent a desperate letter to Paul headquarters: "We're in a difficult position of working on a campaign that draws supporters from laterally opposing points of view, and we have the added bonus of attracting every wacko fringe group in the country....We absolutely must focus on Ron's message only and put aside all other agendas, which anyone can save for the next 'Star Trek' convention or whatever."

Asked about the John Birch Society Society by the author, Paul responds, "Is that BAD? I have a lot of friends in the John Birch Society. They're generally well-educated and they understand the Constitution. I don't know how many positions they would have that I don't agree with."

The writer concludes that the "antigovernment activists of the right and the antiwar activists of the left" may have "irreconciable" differences. But "their numbers -- and anger -- are of considerable magnitude. Ron Paul will not be the next president of the United States. But his candidacy gives us a good hint about the country the next president is going to have to knit back together."

Among many other things, we learn from the article that Paul had never heard of "The Daily Show" until he was a guest and referred to the magazine GQ as "GTU." It also notes that he was the only congress member to vote against the Financial Antiterrorism Act and a medal to honor Rosa Parks, among many others tallies, based on principle, not politics. He also is praised by liberal Rep. Barney Frank as "one of the easiest" members to work with because "he bases his positions on the merits of issues."

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  • How bout an I love Bush thread?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • godpt3 wrote:
    'NYT': Ron Paul for President -- Of the 'Wackos'?

    By E&P Staff

    Published: July 20, 2007 3:15 PM ET

    Ron Paul will not be the next president of the United States.

    Well its nice of the NYT to make it perfectly clear what the NWO has in store for us. Let's not beat around the bush; Ron Paul will NOT be president.

    Go back to sleep, America.

    :(
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Well its nice of the NYT to make it perfectly clear what the NWO has in store for us. Let's not beat around the bush; Ron Paul will NOT be president.

    Go back to sleep, America.

    :(

    The fact that the media has lined up so hard to attack little old Ron Paul means he is a force to be reckoned with. Otherwise, just ignore him!

    They won't do it - and it belies their motives.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • The fact that the media has lined up so hard to attack little old Ron Paul means he is a force to be reckoned with. Otherwise, just ignore him!

    They won't do it - and it belies their motives.

    Accurate observation. Obama sure got his beats in early. Everything from the race card to calling him a grass roots terrorist.

    They're not quite sure what to do with this Republican though being white and republican afterall.

    I think he's probably the most realistic expectation.

    Time will tell.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • I think he's probably the most realistic expectation.


    no shit, huh.
    :D
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • no shit, huh.
    :D

    Ron's biggest catch 22 is that he's a republican, and like any other candidate, they promise the sun, stars, and moon and give you a handful of dirt.

    Maybe Ron Paul is the republicans ticket to cover all the bases and keep it red.

    It would be interesting seeing someone tell all his repub buddies and the IRS devils they're fired.

    He'll probably get shot JFK style also, but it would take a year or so. Kucinich will probably get killed in the first week....maybe cover it up like a car crash or private airplane accident.

    I don't trust any of them to do what they say. Once their buddies start throwing endless massive cash offers at them they forget anything and everything.

    I guess just go with the guy who is the most anti government and cross your fingers.

    What else can we do?...oh yeah...but that involves burning the white house down again.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Government does not have to be a bad thing...it's the corporations that have bought out the government that is the problem!! Hold your politicians accountable people and stop voting them in if they aren't serving your best interests.

    The government can work especially for the less fortunate who have no voice except for their vote and their representatives. You take that away from them and they have nothing. Only the people who have wealth will have the power...think about it.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Hold your politicians accountable people and stop voting them in if they aren't serving your best interests.
    Two problems with that.

    a. SOMEONE has to get voted in. More and more it is no longer even "the lesser of the two evils" ... it is usually "two big fat ugly motherfucking evils"
    What are we to do when EVERYONE is on the take, and NO ONE in office is accountable? Its just plain FUCKED the way i see it.

    b. Go watch HACKING DEMOCRACY ... it was an HBO documentary, its on Google video now ... http://video.google.com/url?docid=-365586126885215066&esrc=sr1&ev=v&q=hacking%2Bdemocracy&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-365586126885215066&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-365586126885215066%26q%3Dhacking%2Bdemocracy%26total%3D62%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H22fDyBApeZEbAzRahgFdWOAOLOBqw ... we have no vote. It has been stolen ... by Deibold and a bunch of evil fuckers.

    :(
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • Two problems with that.

    a. SOMEONE has to get voted in. More and more it is no longer even "the lesser of the two evils" ... it is usually "two big fat ugly motherfucking evils"
    What are we to do when EVERYONE is on the take, and NO ONE in office is accountable? Its just plain FUCKED the way i see it.

    b. Go watch HACKING DEMOCRACY ... it was an HBO documentary, its on Google video now ... http://video.google.com/url?docid=-365586126885215066&esrc=sr1&ev=v&q=hacking%2Bdemocracy&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-365586126885215066&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-365586126885215066%26q%3Dhacking%2Bdemocracy%26total%3D62%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H22fDyBApeZEbAzRahgFdWOAOLOBqw ... we have no vote. It has been stolen ... by Deibold and a bunch of evil fuckers.

    :(

    A. I agree that most fit your description. That's why I said the bit about actually holding them acocuntable. Now, I trust Kucinich much more than I trust any libertarian who wants to take more power away from the poor and give it to those with the wealth.

    B. I know all about Diebold and I'm with you on that.

    http://kucinich.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=1572
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • B. I know all about Diebold and I'm with you on that.

    http://kucinich.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=1572


    Grr.
    We don't need to "UPGRADE" any goddamn systems.

    We need to be counting the fucking votes in the open ... BY HAND ... on PAPER ... where everyone and their damn mother can see what the hell hapened.

    Secret machines with secret tabulation methods, with secret software that can't be reviewed, counted in secret, by people who try to keep secrets ...

    SECRET SECRET SECRET SECRET SECRET SECRET
    FUCK THAT!

    Frownie face for you.
    :(

    (but i'm glad you agree it's a problem)
    :)
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • Grr.
    We don't need to "UPGRADE" any goddamn systems.

    We need to be counting the fucking votes in the open ... BY HAND ... on PAPER ... where everyone and their damn mother can see what the hell hapened.

    Secret machines with secret tabulation methods, with secret software that can't be reviewed, counted in secret, by people who try to keep secrets ...

    SECRET SECRET SECRET SECRET SECRET SECRET
    FUCK THAT!

    Frownie face for you.
    :(

    (but i'm glad you agree it's a problem)
    :)

    What Paul's plan?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • What Paul's plan?

    Hmm.

    Elections are an unneccessary government function, that should be fully privatized ... maybe even bid out, competitively?

    lol.

    I don't know.

    I have to get some rest now.
    I'm waking up at 5am to travel back from Columbus, GA (where i'm visiting my 95 year old grandparents) to Spartanburg, SC ... TO SEE RON PAUL SPEAK ... then i have to jump back on the road to Charleston, SC to meet back up with my roommate and scoot off to see THE MEAT PUPPETS play at a bar on the beach by 9!

    Woo Hoo!

    :D

    Goodnight, Book.
    You're still a-ok in my book.
    :)
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • Hmm.

    Elections are an unneccessary government function, that should be fully privatized ... maybe even bid out, competitively?

    lol.

    I don't know.

    Sounds about right. Or maybe we should have to buy our votes, those with more money can buy extra ones. :D
    I have to get some rest now.
    I'm waking up at 5am to travel back from Columbus, GA (where i'm visiting my 95 year old grandparents) to Spartanburg, SC ... TO SEE RON PAUL SPEAK ... then i have to jump back on the road to Charleston, SC to meet back up with my roommate and scoot off to see THE MEAT PUPPETS play at a bar on the beach by 9!

    Woo Hoo!

    :D

    Goodnight, Book.
    You're still a-ok in my book.
    :)

    I live 25 minutes from Spartanburg. :) You've got a busy day ahead, have fun!...don't forget to ask Paul about the Diebold issue. ;)

    Nite Drifting....you're a-ok by me too.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde

  • This documentary was extremely illuminating. Holy shit. It should be a thread all of it's own.

    What a corrupt system! Putting the code on the cards themselves. Insanity.

    They could have stacked all the cards years in advance even.

    Exactly like stacking a deck....with zero trace.

    Should be called how to build the most insecure, affectable , and illegal voting system known to man.

    U of Berkley confirms everything and finds another 16 additional security flaws on top what is already shown.

    unbelievable...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    This documentary was extremely illuminating. Holy shit. It should be a thread all of it's own.

    What a corrupt system! Putting the code on the cards themselves. Insanity.

    They could have stacked all the cards years in advance even.

    Exactly like stacking a deck....with zero trace.

    Should be called how to build the most insecure, affectable , and illegal voting system known to man.

    U of Berkley confirms everything and finds another 16 additional security flaws on top what is already shown.

    unbelievable...


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEgBCkiV4DM

    35 seconds
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • I found it extremely ironic the the GEMS software icon was a picture of a hand clutching the planet.

    what a disgrace of a situation
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
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