Sharon Stone WTF?

evenkat

http://www.hollyscoop.com/sharon-stone/sharon-stone-calls-china-earthquake-karma_16155.aspx

Sharon Stone Calls China Earthquake Karma

Sharon Stone made a not so smart statement while on the red carpet in Cannes. She was asked if she had heard about the disaster that hit China recently, and her answer was:

"Of course I have. Well you know at first I thought I'm not happy with the way the Chinese are treating the Tibetans….and I've been concerned with should we have the Olympics because they're not being nice to the Dalai Lama who's a good friend of mine. And then all this earthquake and stuff happened and I thought, 'Is that Karma, when you're not nice and the bad things happen to you?'"

Well that's one way of looking at things, Sharon. Although, we don't think most people agree with that way of thinking. She tried redeeming her comment afterwards but you can't take what you said back.

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WTF? What an asinine thing to say! Has she not been watching the news? The death toll is over 69000+ with 18000+ still missing. There are people suffering and the country is struggling to save those who are still trapped. They need help not stupid comments like this. It's like blaming Hurricane Katrina on the Iraq war.

I think I read she has 3 movies coming out and China has now banned her films. Christian Dior also dropped her from their ads. Now that's Karma!

NMyTree

China's government has earned themselves that kind of criticism. They have been brutal.

The people most effected and damaged by the earthquake, are most likely just civilians. Not government officials and military.

So while Sharon Stone's karma comments may be a bit of transference; her anger and frustration are certainly understood.

I think we can all agree that a natural disaster is a completely different tragedy to a Terrorist attack, such as on 9/11.

But at the core, there's not much a difference between Stone's comments and the people who suggested/stated the Untied States government should take a long look and think hard about their Foreign Policy and the reasons for why the atttacks on 9/11 occured.

Not much of a differenc at all.

I suspect Stone's comments weren't made in a manner of gloating or celebrating the tragic earthequake and loss of life. No doubt she was stating it within the context of soul-searching or retrospective questioning ..."When you do bad and horrific things to other people, nature has a way of returning your deeds to you. So hopefully a lesson is learned. "

I think she was speaking within the context that she was hoping China had learned a lesson.

When you read her quote, it's clear she was actually thinking about the question posed to her, thinking about the situation and searching herself a little...

"Of course I have. Well you know at first I thought I'm not happy with the way the Chinese are treating the Tibetans….and I've been concerned with should we have the Olympics because they're not being nice to the Dalai Lama who's a good friend of mine. And then all this earthquake and stuff happened and I thought, 'Is that Karma, when you're not nice and the bad things happen to you?'"

Clearly posing an interesting quesiton.

Considering the sensationistic website and it's ridiculous content; I'd like to see a complete quote of everything she said. It almost seems like they were very selective in what parts of the interview to use.

China banning her movies is as absurd and childish as when Americans wanted to ban french fries and started calling them "Freedom Fries " :rolleyes:

God forbid anyone criticize China or suggest China be accountable and responsihble. God forbid China should be held to any standards expected from other countries.

slightofjeff

She must have been hanging out with John Hagee ...

angelica

NMyTree wrote:

China's government has earned themselves that kind of criticism. They have been brutal.

The people most effected and damaged by the earthquake, are most likely just civilians. Not government officials and military.

So while Sharon Stone's karma comments may be a bit of transference; her anger and frustration are certainly understood.

I think we can all agree that a natural disaster is a completely different tragedy to a Terrorist attack, such as on 9/11.

But at the core, there's not much a difference between Stone's comments and the people who suggested/stated the Untied States government should take a long look and think hard about their Foreign Policy and the reasons for why the atttacks on 9/11 occured.

Not much of a differenc at all.

I suspect Stone's comments weren't made in a manner of gloating or celebrating the tragic earthequake and loss of life. No doubt she was stating it within the context of soul-searching or retrospective questioning ..."When you do bad and horrific things to other people, nature has a way of returning your deeds to you. So hopefully a lesson is learned. "

I think she was speaking within the context that she was hoping China had learned a lesson.

I agree with you. While karma exists and is valid on one level, the root problem here is Sharon's judging. Like when a Christian judges another's actions. When we judge someone else we don't define them, we merely represent our mindset. This transference from Sharon, is really about her own anger and frustration, which on some level is understandable.

What I see somewhat differently is that unlike nature and certain natural disasters, human interactions that involve hatred definitely baits people to where they choose to respond in hate. Therefore it seems to me that in understanding why one attacks the US in hate, analysing where that hate stems from, including past perceived slights regarding US foreign policy is a valid question in interpersonal dynamics analysis. Which is not in any way to absolve hateful individuals for their own causes, and resulting effects! It's about understanding the dynamics

evenkat

NMyTree wrote:

China's government has earned themselves that kind of criticism. They have been brutal.

The people most effected and damaged by the earthquake, are most likely just civilians. Not government officials and military.

So while Sharon Stone's karma comments may be a bit of transference; her anger and frustration are certainly understood.

I think we can all agree that a natural disaster is a completely different tragedy to a Terrorist attack, such as on 9/11.

But at the core, there's not much a difference between Stone's comments and the people who suggested/stated the Untied States government should take a long look and think hard about their Foreign Policy and the reasons for why the atttacks on 9/11 occured.

Not much of a differenc at all.

I suspect Stone's comments weren't made in a manner of gloating or celebrating the tragic earthequake and loss of life. No doubt she was stating it within the context of soul-searching or retrospective questioning ..."When you do bad and horrific things to other people, nature has a way of returning your deeds to you. So hopefully a lesson is learned. "

I think she was speaking within the context that she was hoping China had learned a lesson.

When you read her quote, it's clear she was actually thinking about the question posed to her, thinking about the situation and searching herself a little...

"Of course I have. Well you know at first I thought I'm not happy with the way the Chinese are treating the Tibetans….and I've been concerned with should we have the Olympics because they're not being nice to the Dalai Lama who's a good friend of mine. And then all this earthquake and stuff happened and I thought, 'Is that Karma, when you're not nice and the bad things happen to you?'"

Clearly posing an interesting quesiton.

Considering the sensationistic website and it's ridiculous content; I'd like to see a complete quote of everything she said. It almost seems like they were very selective in what parts of the interview to use.

China banning her movies is as absurd and childish as when Americans wanted to ban french fries and started calling them "Freedom Fries " :rolleyes:

God forbid anyone criticize China or suggest China be accountable and responsihble. God forbid China should be held to any standards expected from other countries.

She knows her statement was wrong because otherwise she wouldn't have had to apologize.

There are many interpretations of karma but basically karma is a cause and effect cycle.

People do believe US foreign policy specifically in the Middle East was the "cause" of 9/11 or 9/11 was the "effect" of US foreign policy. There is actually a direct link here because it has been reported that Al Qaeda, the culprits of 9/11, basically said themselves that 9/11 happened because of US foreign policy in the Middle East. However you cannot prove that the natural disaster in China was caused by China's Tibet policy. As I said above it would be like saying Hurricane Katrina was caused the Iraq war.

But anyhow her comments do not help the situation and all it did was anger people and cause...more bad karma.

NMyTree

angelica wrote:

I agree with you. While karma exists and is valid on one level, the root problem here is Sharon's judging. Like when a Christian judges another's actions. When we judge someone else we don't define them, we merely represent our mindset. This transference from Sharon, is really about her own anger and frustration, which on some level is understandable.

What I see somewhat differently is that unlike nature and certain natural disasters, human interactions that involve hatred definitely baits people to where they choose to respond in hate. Therefore it seems to me that in understanding why one attacks the US in hate, analysing where that hate stems from, including past perceived slights regarding US foreign policy is a valid question in interpersonal dynamics analysis. Which is not in any way to absolve hateful individuals for their own causes, and resulting effects! It's about understanding the dynamics

Angelica, do you believe emotion, while being one of our amazing attributes also doubles as our Achilles' heel; in terms of our ability to evolve and acheive a higer state of conscientiousness or enlightment?

I often wonder.

You (angelica) know me better than anyone else here at the MT. And I am one of those highly passionate, and sometimes overly-emotional type of people. Maybe it's the Portuguese in me.:D Or maybe it's that little bit of Irish clashing with the little bit of Italian:D Man I'm a mutt;)

So I sometimes find myself in situations where I must battle that passion and emotional side; to favor rational and productive.

I think we as human beings often behave this way.

Do you feel the human species would be better off without all that emotion and passion?

NMyTree

evenkat wrote:

She knows her statement was wrong because otherwise she wouldn't have had to apologize.

I think she knows her comments were ill-timed and in bad form, at this juncture. I think that's why she apologized.

Also don't discount the pressure to apologize because of the backlash and probable threats to her ability to have and maintain a career.

Regardless, her comments as it pertains to the concept of karma; were valid.

angelica

NMyTree wrote:

Angelica, do you believe emotion, while being one of our amazing attributes also doubles as our Achilles' heel; in terms of our ability to evolve and acheive a higer state of conscientiousness or enlightment?

I often wonder.

You (angelica) know me better than anyone else here at the MT. And I am one of those highly passionate, and sometimes overly-emotional type of people. Maybe it's the Portuguese in me.:D Or maybe it's that little bit of Irish clashing with the little bit of Italian:D Man I'm a mutt;)

So I sometimes find myself in situations where I must battle that passion and emotional side; to favor rational and productive.

I think we as human beings often behave this way.

Do you feel the human species would be better off without all that emotion and passion?

Also, Pisces and Taurus are compatible horoscope signs!

I definitely can relate to being passionate and emotional, and having that causing big problems for myself! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Achilles heel...I can relate!!! (!!!!!!!)

Ultimately, the key is in temperence. And learning to integrate the opposites. For those like yourself and myself, yes, the balance can come from developing our logical nature. For others - Ahnimus, for example, his challenge is the opposite - developing his emotional nature!

As I've learned to balance and value BOTH (or all) intelligences, and round them all out, my emotional and intuitive intelligences (which in my view are also your strongest intelligences) turn into being pure gifts! According to personality theory, even though we benefit with balance, it's always in our best interests to go with our natural preferences! Which for those like yourself/myself...this emotional/intuitive preference has great strengths to go with: http://www.keirsey.com/handler.aspx?s=keirsey&f=fourtemps&tab=3&c=overview

It definitely seems we'd be better off without all that passion. It's a paradox...as we learn to temper and manage our passion, we become responsible enough to utilize it in awesome ways, taking us to glorious heights!!

El_Kabong

evenkat wrote:

http://www.hollyscoop.com/sharon-stone/sharon-stone-calls-china-earthquake-karma_16155.aspx

Sharon Stone Calls China Earthquake Karma

Sharon Stone made a not so smart statement while on the red carpet in Cannes. She was asked if she had heard about the disaster that hit China recently, and her answer was:

"Of course I have. Well you know at first I thought I'm not happy with the way the Chinese are treating the Tibetans….and I've been concerned with should we have the Olympics because they're not being nice to the Dalai Lama who's a good friend of mine. And then all this earthquake and stuff happened and I thought, 'Is that Karma, when you're not nice and the bad things happen to you?'"

Well that's one way of looking at things, Sharon. Although, we don't think most people agree with that way of thinking. She tried redeeming her comment afterwards but you can't take what you said back.

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WTF? What an asinine thing to say! Has she not been watching the news? The death toll is over 69000+ with 18000+ still missing. There are people suffering and the country is struggling to save those who are still trapped. They need help not stupid comments like this. It's like blaming Hurricane Katrina on the Iraq war.

I think I read she has 3 movies coming out and China has now banned her films. Christian Dior also dropped her from their ads. Now that's Karma!

well, technically she asked a question, not made a statement...but yeah, a bit insensitive

Jeremy1012

Sharon Stone needs to understand that the people of China should not have to pay the price for their governments actions and certainly not with death. What a crass and foolish statement.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

she's an idiot.

jeffbr

NMyTree wrote:

Also don't discount the pressure to apologize because of the backlash and probable threats to her ability to have and maintain a career.

Bingo. I think that was the primary driver. She already lost a lucrative contact with Dior. I'm sure more will follow, especially with companies like Dior who are trying to break into the Chinese market.

LONGRD

Jeremy1012 wrote:

Sharon Stone needs to understand that the people of China should not have to pay the price for their governments actions and certainly not with death. What a crass and foolish statement.

Agreed. It's a freckin' natural disaster, no one's fault but Mother Nature herself.

Now if the govern officials fucks thing up on the recoveries like Katrina then you're OK to shit on them.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I don't think she blamed the Chinese people personally just the actions of the Chinese govt.

Or is she in fact blaming the Chinese people?

Out of curiosity, how many Tibetans have been torched over the years?

69charger

El_Kabong wrote:

well, technically she asked a question, not made a statement...but yeah, a bit insensitive

Coming from the master of the technique.

El_Kabong

69charger wrote:

Coming from the master of the technique.

i know, it's such a mystery where i stand on issues

:rolleyes:

fuck

I agree, that's pretty stupid.

If someone were to say that 9/11 is a direct result of US foreign policy, that's one thing. But to blame a natural disaster on karma is ridiculous... like the OP said, it's like saying Katrina was karma for the Iraq War... pretty stupid in my opinion.

sweet adeline

she's on a roll lately: http://youtube.com/watch?v=99XYUgpG2yQ

Medicated-Genius

Jeremy1012 wrote:

Sharon Stone needs to understand that the people of China should not have to pay the price for their governments actions and certainly not with death. What a crass and foolish statement.

Since China is predominantly Buddhist, these people understand the concept of Karma better than most I expect. Buddhism also believes in the collective karma. It would be interesting to have a chat with a Buddhist monk about this, and get their thoughts on it all.

norm

MrSmith wrote:

she's an idiot.

that's an insult to idiots

Strangest Tribe

she needs to show us her pussy again so we can get the "karma" back in balance

norm

Strangest Tribe wrote:

she needs to show us her pussy again so we can get the "karma" back in balance

ugh! who wants to see that piece of tartare

rebornFixer

Yes ... An utterly insensitive remark from yet another celebrity who thinks it hip to be liberal but way overshoots the mark and just comes off like a nutter. Sean Penn style.

even flow?

evenkat wrote:

http://www.hollyscoop.com/sharon-stone/sharon-stone-calls-china-earthquake-karma_16155.aspx

Sharon Stone Calls China Earthquake Karma

Sharon Stone made a not so smart statement while on the red carpet in Cannes. She was asked if she had heard about the disaster that hit China recently, and her answer was:

"Of course I have. Well you know at first I thought I'm not happy with the way the Chinese are treating the Tibetans….and I've been concerned with should we have the Olympics because they're not being nice to the Dalai Lama who's a good friend of mine. And then all this earthquake and stuff happened and I thought, 'Is that Karma, when you're not nice and the bad things happen to you?'"

Well that's one way of looking at things, Sharon. Although, we don't think most people agree with that way of thinking. She tried redeeming her comment afterwards but you can't take what you said back.

...

WTF? What an asinine thing to say! Has she not been watching the news? The death toll is over 69000+ with 18000+ still missing. There are people suffering and the country is struggling to save those who are still trapped. They need help not stupid comments like this. It's like blaming Hurricane Katrina on the Iraq war.

I think I read she has 3 movies coming out and China has now banned her films. Christian Dior also dropped her from their ads. Now that's Karma!

And this is any worse then you have ever read on this board? Everybody is different and this it what she may believe in. No different then the Chinese believing these events are happening because of the year of the rat or whatever year they are in this year. Just as dumb in my mind.

LoveRock333

If Sharon Stones reputation gets tarnished because she said the 'quake in China was Kharma, is that irony?

down_ski

Sharon Stone is insane.

This was a horrible thing to say, I understand that the Chinese govt. is totally fucked, but you cant say that thousand of innocent people were killed because of "Karma" because karma doesn't exist!

RolandTD20Kdrummer

She changed religions and her brain melted...

or maybe her brain just melted...