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Are there really people that believe

AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
edited June 2008 in A Moving Train
all of these things?

There are hundreds of Mislims that hate Americans, want to die to kill innocent American civilians.

But just can't think of a way to do it.... because of Homeland Security
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Are there really people that believe that Islamic fundamentalism is completely made up?

    As usual, the truth probably lies somewhere between the extremes.
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,300
    This thread could go on, and on, and on, just on crazy parts of the bible.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Are there really people that believe that Islamic fundamentalism is completely made up?

    As usual, the truth probably lies somewhere between the extremes.

    you've said a mouthful??

    what is an Islamic fundamentalist? are they evil? do they want to kill innocent civilians? Are they much different than Christian fundamentalists? Does their existance excuse the world for allowing their governments reduce an entire country to what Iraq has become?
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    there are over 1.5 billion followers of islam in the world; it makes logical sense that there are a few hundred...maybe thousands who hate America and would kill themselves for it. There are 2 billion christians in the world and it makes sense that there are nutjobs from those denominations. It's really just a bell curve. There are 1 billion non-religious...they've got their nutjobs too.
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    Abuskedti wrote:
    you've said a mouthful??

    what is an Islamic fundamentalist? are they evil? do they want to kill innocent civilians? Are they much different than Christian fundamentalists? Does their existance excuse the world for allowing their governments reduce an entire country to what Iraq has become?

    a islamic fundamentalist is a person who follows what they percieve teh Koran tells them literally. i would say that they are not evil but might do evil things. maybe, if the innocent civilians are not Muslim (as a strict reading of the Koran might suggest to them). No. maybe.
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  • JamilyManJamilyMan Posts: 240
    Think of it this way.... there are thousands of Americans who think that all Muslims are evil because of their own ignorance and their perception of the news and what the media tells us. Many, given the chance, would harm groups of Muslims as a preventative measure - largely because the media portrays things one way, and they interpret it another. They think they are doing this country a service.

    Similarly, there are many Muslim extremists who believe that all Americans are evil and greedy and deserve to die. Their belief system is that if they can rid the world of some of the American evil, they are doing such a good deed that they will be eternally rewarded. It is what they are taught, and for them it is as real as our belief that the earth is round.

    Does it make them evil?!? Perhaps - or maybe it is just ignorance and the fact that they blindly follow the "wrong type" of leader.

    Many kids who join the white supremacists groups in America are lost souls who are looking for some type of acceptance. Charismatic leaders prey on them and recruit them and fill their heads with messages that make sense to them. For those that are oppressed, it is typical to look for a scapegoat or someone to blame/persecute.

    It is all very similar and very sad.
    For those who scoff at "Jamily" in my name... 9 years ago, when my first daughter was born there were jokes about whether my priority would be my family or PJ. I smiled and quipped "I am a JamilyMan." What was a family joke became a hated term among jammers. Didn't see that one coming!
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    chopitdown wrote:
    there are over 1.5 billion followers of islam in the world; it makes logical sense that there are a few hundred...maybe thousands who hate America and would kill themselves for it. There are 2 billion christians in the world and it makes sense that there are nutjobs from those denominations. It's really just a bell curve. There are 1 billion non-religious...they've got their nutjobs too.

    Exactly.
  • canadajammercanadajammer Posts: 263
    Yup

    1.5 billion Muslims. Vast majority no different than anyone else in the world.

    However, that extremely tiny percentage, who misinterpret Islam and are radicals/extremists, happen to have a large impact on the world and can cause a lot of damage to their own people and to others...
  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    chopitdown wrote:
    there are over 1.5 billion followers of islam in the world; it makes logical sense that there are a few hundred...maybe thousands who hate America and would kill themselves for it. There are 2 billion christians in the world and it makes sense that there are nutjobs from those denominations. It's really just a bell curve. There are 1 billion non-religious...they've got their nutjobs too.

    It'd be like saying no army vets could be president cos of Timothy McVeigh.
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  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    It'd be like saying no army vets could be president cos of Timothy McVeigh.

    Exactly.
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