Right vs. Wrong

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  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    You're wrong. ;)
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Sometimes yes. I agree.
  • This election is not about left or right, republican or democrat, Obama or Romney, socialism or capitalism....

    its about the "SOUL" of our nation! Its about our children and their opportunities for the same freedoms, hope and rights that we got to enjoy. Its about the next generations and America's standing in the world. Its about our moral relativity to the world. Its about preserving life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for the next generation!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    It's really just about different people having different priorities and different ideas about how to accomplish those priorities. No one is good or bad...no one is right or wrong...they're just different.

    Well Todd Akin might be a little bad :think: :lol:
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  • It's really just about different people having different priorities and different ideas about how to accomplish those priorities. No one is good or bad...no one is right or wrong...they're just different.

    Well Todd Akin might be a little bad :think: :lol:

    noone is good or bad....noone is right or wrong? You mean the two presidential candidates, or everyone? Im trying to have empathy for that point of view.....and it seems like a very GRAY world with a bunch of happy mediums and vanilla colors! I would like to say that applying policies to American society does have importance, meaning and value. There are consequences, benefits and trials in doing so. The true results are that some policies are good and some are bad. Some are right and some are wrong. Some people see things differently, therefore leading them to downplay the real level of importance of them. Many people say "ah, nothing makes a difference anyways" or "we cant make a difference anyways". That attitude is just what the devil ordered! Its a life of bringing good down, and bringing evil up.....to make the distance between them, much less that what it is. There are absolute truths and there is good and evil!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    It's really just about different people having different priorities and different ideas about how to accomplish those priorities. No one is good or bad...no one is right or wrong...they're just different.

    Well Todd Akin might be a little bad :think: :lol:

    noone is good or bad....noone is right or wrong? You mean the two presidential candidates, or everyone? Im trying to have empathy for that point of view.....and it seems like a very GRAY world with a bunch of happy mediums and vanilla colors! I would like to say that applying policies to American society does have importance, meaning and value. There are consequences, benefits and trials in doing so. The true results are that some policies are good and some are bad. Some are right and some are wrong. Some people see things differently, therefore leading them to downplay the real level of importance of them. Many people say "ah, nothing makes a difference anyways" or "we cant make a difference anyways". That attitude is just what the devil ordered! Its a life of bringing good down, and bringing evil up.....to make the distance between them, much less that what it is. There are absolute truths and there is good and evil!
    What's good to you, might be bad to me...so who gets to decide that? I think I should :)
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  • It's really just about different people having different priorities and different ideas about how to accomplish those priorities. No one is good or bad...no one is right or wrong...they're just different.

    Well Todd Akin might be a little bad :think: :lol:

    noone is good or bad....noone is right or wrong? You mean the two presidential candidates, or everyone? Im trying to have empathy for that point of view.....and it seems like a very GRAY world with a bunch of happy mediums and vanilla colors! I would like to say that applying policies to American society does have importance, meaning and value. There are consequences, benefits and trials in doing so. The true results are that some policies are good and some are bad. Some are right and some are wrong. Some people see things differently, therefore leading them to downplay the real level of importance of them. Many people say "ah, nothing makes a difference anyways" or "we cant make a difference anyways". That attitude is just what the devil ordered! Its a life of bringing good down, and bringing evil up.....to make the distance between them, much less that what it is. There are absolute truths and there is good and evil!
    What's good to you, might be bad to me...so who gets to decide that? I think I should :)

    I dont think so, we both seem reasonable so here are some things i think are good and bad...you tell me!

    GOOD: Low taxes for everyone
    getting good grades
    not killing, stealing, coveting
    compassionate policies that have common sense
    business friendly policies that promote growth
    more freedom and less tyranny
    quality healthcare that is affordable
    raising good children that are appreciative
    being community oriented and volunteering
    spreading love, peace, joy and hope
    a smaller federal govt. that is fiscally sane
    drug addiction counseling
    JESUS
    Shining the fruit of the spirit

    BAD: Big govt. that overreaches
    Getting bad grades
    killing, stealing, coveting
    forceful policies that take away freedoms
    regulations that stifle growth and take away incentives
    more tryanny and less freedom
    socialized healthcare that is a waste of money
    being isolated and a hermit
    raising monsterous children
    spreading fear, anger and deception
    drug addiction
    The Devil

    Im sure you stand with me on most of these!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885

    noone is good or bad....noone is right or wrong? You mean the two presidential candidates, or everyone? Im trying to have empathy for that point of view.....and it seems like a very GRAY world with a bunch of happy mediums and vanilla colors! I would like to say that applying policies to American society does have importance, meaning and value. There are consequences, benefits and trials in doing so. The true results are that some policies are good and some are bad. Some are right and some are wrong. Some people see things differently, therefore leading them to downplay the real level of importance of them. Many people say "ah, nothing makes a difference anyways" or "we cant make a difference anyways". That attitude is just what the devil ordered! Its a life of bringing good down, and bringing evil up.....to make the distance between them, much less that what it is. There are absolute truths and there is good and evil!
    What's good to you, might be bad to me...so who gets to decide that? I think I should :)

    I dont think so, we both seem reasonable so here are some things i think are good and bad...you tell me!

    GOOD: Low taxes for everyone
    getting good grades
    not killing, stealing, coveting
    compassionate policies that have common sense
    business friendly policies that promote growth
    more freedom and less tyranny
    quality healthcare that is affordable
    raising good children that are appreciative
    being community oriented and volunteering
    spreading love, peace, joy and hope
    a smaller federal govt. that is fiscally sane
    drug addiction counseling
    JESUS
    Shining the fruit of the spirit

    BAD: Big govt. that overreaches
    Getting bad grades
    killing, stealing, coveting
    forceful policies that take away freedoms
    regulations that stifle growth and take away incentives
    more tryanny and less freedom
    socialized healthcare that is a waste of money
    being isolated and a hermit
    raising monsterous children
    spreading fear, anger and deception
    drug addiction
    The Devil

    Im sure you stand with me on most of these!
    Are some of these things on the ballot this election? Do we have the option of voting for the devil and mandating the raising of monstrous children? You're losing me here. :think: :?
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305


    I dont think so, we both :lol::lol::lol::lol: seem reasonable so here are some things i think are good and bad...you tell me!

    GOOD: Low taxes for everyone
    getting good grades
    not killing, stealing, coveting
    compassionate policies that have common sense
    business friendly policies that promote growth
    more freedom and less tyranny
    quality healthcare that is affordable
    raising good children that are appreciative
    being community oriented and volunteering
    spreading love, peace, joy and hope
    a smaller federal govt. that is fiscally sane
    drug addiction counseling
    JESUS
    Shining the fruit of the spirit

    BAD: Big govt. that overreaches
    Getting bad grades
    killing, stealing, coveting
    forceful policies that take away freedoms
    regulations that stifle growth and take away incentives
    more tryanny and less freedom
    socialized healthcare that is a waste of money
    being isolated and a hermit
    raising monsterous children
    spreading fear, anger and deception
    drug addiction
    The Devil

    Im sure you stand with me on most of these!

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  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    whygohome wrote:


    I dont think so, we both :lol::lol::lol::lol: seem reasonable so here are some things i think are good and bad...you tell me!

    GOOD: Low taxes for everyone
    getting good grades
    not killing, stealing, coveting
    compassionate policies that have common sense
    business friendly policies that promote growth
    more freedom and less tyranny
    quality healthcare that is affordable
    raising good children that are appreciative
    being community oriented and volunteering
    spreading love, peace, joy and hope
    a smaller federal govt. that is fiscally sane
    drug addiction counseling
    JESUS
    Shining the fruit of the spirit

    BAD: Big govt. that overreaches
    Getting bad grades
    killing, stealing, coveting
    forceful policies that take away freedoms
    regulations that stifle growth and take away incentives
    more tryanny and less freedom
    socialized healthcare that is a waste of money
    being isolated and a hermit
    raising monsterous children
    spreading fear, anger and deception
    drug addiction
    The Devil

    Im sure you stand with me on most of these!

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    :lol: the post you quoted made me feel like I needed to speak in a very calm, soft voice and lead F4F to a nice comfortable chair in a white room while offering a nice glass of water :? :lol:
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Personally... I think it is Left vs. Right because it is easy... it requires no thought... reasoning... does not need to be founded in fact or truth. It is a belief or opinion... therefore, what I think is right... which means whatever you think is wrong.
    ...
    Take this for example:
    By saying I believe in this:
    GOOD: Low taxes for everyone
    getting good grades
    not killing, stealing, coveting
    compassionate policies that have common sense
    business friendly policies that promote growth
    more freedom and less tyranny
    quality healthcare that is affordable
    raising good children that are appreciative
    being community oriented and volunteering
    spreading love, peace, joy and hope
    a smaller federal govt. that is fiscally sane
    drug addiction counseling
    JESUS
    Shining the fruit of the spirit


    Automatically assumes that you MUST believe in that:
    BAD: Big govt. that overreaches
    Getting bad grades
    killing, stealing, coveting
    forceful policies that take away freedoms
    regulations that stifle growth and take away incentives
    more tryanny and less freedom
    socialized healthcare that is a waste of money
    being isolated and a hermit
    raising monsterous children
    spreading fear, anger and deception
    drug addiction
    The Devil


    Now... seriously... what moron really believes that people are intentionally 'raising monsterous children'? Or that believe stealing, killing and coveting are good characteristics? It is simple demonization of those that think differently than you as monsters, thus, making it real easy to hate them.
    ...
    Trying to figure out what is universally Right... that is a tough problem to solve and dim-witted people are ill-equipped to take on the task. It is much easier to simply point at you and dump the blame on you.
    That is why we are Left vs. Right.
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  • GOOD: Low taxes for everyone
    getting good grades
    not killing, stealing, coveting
    compassionate policies that have common sense
    business friendly policies that promote growth
    more freedom and less tyranny
    quality healthcare that is affordable
    raising good children that are appreciative
    being community oriented and volunteering
    spreading love, peace, joy and hope
    a smaller federal govt. that is fiscally sane
    drug addiction counseling
    JESUS
    Shining the fruit of the spirit

    BAD: Big govt. that overreaches
    Getting bad grades
    killing, stealing, coveting
    forceful policies that take away freedoms
    regulations that stifle growth and take away incentives
    more tryanny and less freedom
    socialized healthcare that is a waste of money
    being isolated and a hermit
    raising monsterous children
    spreading fear, anger and deception
    drug addiction
    The Devil

    Im sure you stand with me on most of these!

    I don't. Not at all.

    Here's my list..

    GOOD
    Taxes that make a country work. When taxes are so low that we can't pay for basic things like fixing roads, bridges and paying teachers or firemen, our taxes are too low.
    Good Education. "Good Grades" are just numbers. Kids get given "good grades" for memorizing the answers without learning anything.
    quality healthcare that is affordable. (To everyone.)
    drug addiction counseling (that is affordable to everyone, along with removing silly drug laws that help nobody)
    Shining the fruit of the spirit (this IS a euphemism for masturbation, right? If not... add to the "WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS EVEN MEAN" Column.)

    BAD
    JESUS. Religion kills. And Jesus wasn't a real person. He sure wasn't a white guy with a medium brown beard and blue eyes who spoke English and wore a white gown.
    Big govt. that overreaches (Like when the government passes laws like Proposition 8 and DOMA? Yeah, that's bad)
    Getting bad grades (see above)
    killing, stealing, coveting (see above)
    forceful policies that take away freedoms (like Proposition 8, DOMA and Question 1? Yeah, those are bad)
    more tryanny and less freedom (like Proposition 8, DOMA and Question 1? Yeah, those are bad)
    socialized healthcare that is a waste of money (
    being isolated and a hermit (why is this bad? Some people LIKE to be alone.)
    raising monsterous children (ok, I'll give you that)
    spreading fear, anger and deception (like Proposition 8, DOMA and Question 1? Yeah, those are bad)
    drug addiction (ok, yes.. those are bad)
    Allowing mention of religion or superstitions in public policy or government.



    WHAT THE FUCK DO THESE EVEN MEAN?

    regulations that stifle growth and take away incentives (what do you mean "incentives?" what do you mean "stifle growth?" Making the poor poorer just means that there's less money to support businesses.)
    not killing, stealing, coveting (Killing Osama Bin Ladin: Good. Bombing civilians: Bad.)
    compassionate policies that have common sense (the problem with "common sense" is that phrase is used by anyone with a two-bit opinion. Someone who doesn't understand what causes gravity says "it's just the devil pulling us away from heaven.. that's just common sense.")
    more freedom and less tyranny (as someone whose family has been the target of over 100 laws meant only to take away our rights and protections... and for no reason other than "you're not as good as us and we want to legally punish you for that), I'm always suspicious of people who talk about "freedom and tyranny" while voting for things like Proposition 8 and Question 1.)
    raising good children that are appreciative.
    spreading love, peace, joy and hope (what do you mean by this? forcing your personal religious views on the whole country?)
    a smaller federal govt. that is fiscally sane (what is "fiscally sane?" that's another one of those vague "I support laws that are firm but fair" boilerplate that every candidate says when they have nothing to say).
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I think Right vs Wrong have been replaced with excuses, rationalizations and grey areas.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    This is one of those threads that if it were reversed would have caught so much shit and been locked/deleted.

    But alas, it is not as it cheers on the Blue team. Go team go!!!
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    This is one of those threads that if it were reversed would have caught so much shit and been locked/deleted.

    But alas, it is not as it cheers on the Blue team. Go team go!!!

    what!?? ... DS is as red as it gets and he agreed with the thread ...
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    polaris_x wrote:
    This is one of those threads that if it were reversed would have caught so much shit and been locked/deleted.

    But alas, it is not as it cheers on the Blue team. Go team go!!!

    what!?? ... DS is as red as it gets and he agreed with the thread ...

    Have you not taken any standardized tests?

    Look at the way it was written:

    Right vs. Wrong is Left vs Right. Equating Right = Left & Wrong = Right.

    I thought that was the whole point? I guess maybe the OP actually has to post a complete thought if it's different.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    Cosmo wrote:
    Now... seriously... what moron really believes that people are intentionally 'raising monsterous children'? Or that believe stealing, killing and coveting are good characteristics? It is simple demonization of those that think differently than you as monsters, thus, making it real easy to hate them.
    ...


    Well, complete apathy leading to monstrous children happens more frequently than any of us would like. The parents are intentionally disengaged, it doesn't just happen to them.

    And those parents are really easy to hate. When I see a kid acting terribly, if the parent is attempting to do something then I feel great empathy for the parent as I know it happens to all from time to time. If they do nothing, ignore, or put the parenting on others by saying stuff like "The store manager will get angry if you keep throwing stuff all over the floor"...I really dislike that parent and know that that kid doesn't stand a chance without another outside influence taking over as a role model.
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305


    Well, complete apathy leading to monstrous children happens more frequently than any of us would like. The parents are intentionally disengaged, it doesn't just happen to them.

    And those parents are really easy to hate.
    .... If they do nothing, ignore, or put the parenting on others by saying stuff like "The store manager will get angry if you keep throwing stuff all over the floor"...I really dislike that parent and know that that kid doesn't stand a chance without another outside influence taking over as a role model.

    I go to a different grocery store now because of parents that can't control their (sometimes multiple) children. These are the same parents who have cases of Mountain Dew and Pepsi, bags of Doritos, TV dinners, juice that contains 5% fruit juice, and not one vegetable or fruit or salad ingredient in their cart.
    And, a lot of them pay with their EBT cards.

    This is what I see.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Well, complete apathy leading to monstrous children happens more frequently than any of us would like. The parents are intentionally disengaged, it doesn't just happen to them.

    And those parents are really easy to hate. When I see a kid acting terribly, if the parent is attempting to do something then I feel great empathy for the parent as I know it happens to all from time to time. If they do nothing, ignore, or put the parenting on others by saying stuff like "The store manager will get angry if you keep throwing stuff all over the floor"...I really dislike that parent and know that that kid doesn't stand a chance without another outside influence taking over as a role model.
    ...
    I should have been clearer with the example...
    The point I was trying to make that if you believe in 'raising good children' does NOT mean the person who is on the other side of the political fence automatically believes that 'raising monsterous children' is the way to go. Just as the idea that if you believe in Jesus... you are good and your opponent **MUST**, therefore, believe in Satan. Example: Jews do not believe in Jesus as their saviour... it does NOT mean they believe in Satan, right?
    Basically, if all one sees the world in black or white (Red or Blue), they are missing the entire picture.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Have you not taken any standardized tests?

    Look at the way it was written:

    Right vs. Wrong is Left vs Right. Equating Right = Left & Wrong = Right.

    I thought that was the whole point? I guess maybe the OP actually has to post a complete thought if it's different.

    i just thought the OP was saying that right and wrong no longer matter ... and that everything is decided by partisanship ... i don't really see a go blue theme at all ...
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    polaris_x wrote:
    Have you not taken any standardized tests?

    Look at the way it was written:

    Right vs. Wrong is Left vs Right. Equating Right = Left & Wrong = Right.

    I thought that was the whole point? I guess maybe the OP actually has to post a complete thought if it's different.

    i just thought the OP was saying that right and wrong no longer matter ... and that everything is decided by partisanship ... i don't really see a go blue theme at all ...


    Maybe I'm conditioned by this forum to read it a certain way. ;)

    Really, I thought he was making a left is always right sort of comment. I could be mistaken.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Maybe I'm conditioned by this forum to read it a certain way. ;)

    Really, I thought he was making a left is always right sort of comment. I could be mistaken.

    well ... you could be right too ... :lol:
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,409
    polaris_x wrote:
    This is one of those threads that if it were reversed would have caught so much shit and been locked/deleted.

    But alas, it is not as it cheers on the Blue team. Go team go!!!

    what!?? ... DS is as red as it gets and he agreed with the thread ...

    Have you not taken any standardized tests?

    Look at the way it was written:

    Right vs. Wrong is Left vs Right. Equating Right = Left & Wrong = Right.

    I thought that was the whole point? I guess maybe the OP actually has to post a complete thought if it's different.

    It could be seen as "Wrong" was replaced with "Left" indicating that left=wrong. Or it could just be a new take on the "Who's on First" comedy routine. Am I right or am I wrong? I mean left or right... no wait I mean wrong or left... no wait... ah fuck... :lol:
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  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    brianlux wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    what!?? ... DS is as red as it gets and he agreed with the thread ...

    Have you not taken any standardized tests?

    Look at the way it was written:

    Right vs. Wrong is Left vs Right. Equating Right = Left & Wrong = Right.

    I thought that was the whole point? I guess maybe the OP actually has to post a complete thought if it's different.

    It could be seen as "Wrong" was replaced with "Left" indicating that left=wrong. Or it could just be a new take on the "Who's on First" comedy routine. Am I right or am I wrong? I mean left or right... no wait I mean wrong or left... no wait... ah fuck... :lol:
    You know what? Forget what I said earlier...everyone is wrong...myself included...which means this is wrong...which means we're right back where we started :crazy:
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,409
    You know what? Forget what I said earlier...everyone is wrong...myself included...which means this is wrong...which means we're right back where we started :crazy:

    Bingo! :thumbup: :lol:
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  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    the extremists on the right make it about right vs wrong.. if the GOP were more moderate in 2012 the notion of right vs wrong wouldn't be around.
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    Zoso wrote:
    the extremists on the right make it about right vs wrong.. if the GOP were more moderate in 2012 the notion of right vs wrong wouldn't be around.

    it is quite amazing that the extremists rail about big government and claim that they have freedom and liberty on their side.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    The Left writes of rights for those left out of the Right's rites left on the left side of the table on the right side of the room where the last rites of Orville Wright were left.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,409
    Cosmo wrote:
    The Left writes of rights for those left out of the Right's rites left on the left side of the table on the right side of the room where the last rites of Orville Wright were left.

    :crazy: :lol:



    Left, right,
    left, right,
    right left,
    right right,
    left, left,
    companyyyy,
    HALT!
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  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    Cosmo wrote:
    The Left writes of rights for those left out of the Right's rites left on the left side of the table on the right side of the room where the last rites of Orville Wright were left.
    Well stated 8-)
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