More than 12,000 Iraqi police casualties in last two years
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Such suspicions led to the removal of the 8th Brigade from the streets of Baghdad the other day. The move was in response to the kidnapping Sunday of more than 20 people in the brigade's area of operations. Seven of the people were later found dead."
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Meet the New Boss... same as the Old Boss.
Whether it was Saddam Hussein in his palace or the U.S. Military Command in the Green Zone... the ones that were doing the actual killings are the same ones that are doing the actual killings (the only thing different is the religious sect they adhere to).
Hail, Hail!!!
Staying the course has proven to only amplify this religious violence and civil war.
Hussein knew what he was doing...it was in fact the only way to maintain order.
The US will do it too...only we'll call it battling insurgents. 40,000 dead Iraqi civilians...that number will probably double before we're done...which will be in about 10 years.
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by maintaining power you mean killing them and dumping them in a mass grave if they refused to hang a picture of himself on their wall at all times?
http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/legacyofterror.html
Not according to Iraqi people that say Saddam isn't doing that stuff anymore. How do you know those people weren't disappeared by some other means anyway? And according to that article the massacre in Rwanda surpasses this, so why would the U.S. stand idly by when that is happening but adimantly oppose Saddam. It's pure hipocrisy, what about Saudi Arabia or Pakistan?
As much or more people will die from U.S. occupation, so how is it any better?
400,000 people will NOT die from the US occupation. someone quoted this as an accurate count since the war began. im not saying its a good thing but it will not get anywhere near 400,000.
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/database/
now you want to blame the US for Rawanda? Rwanda didnt try to invade neighboring countries. saddam did. where was the United Nations?
how many excuses do you want to make for Saddam?
No! This is what our help is doing.. this is our "staying the course"
This is us with troop adequate to huddle up in the "Green Zone" protecting the government Iraq does not want while we leave the rest of the country to live in a mad crime zone - occationally if we have a "high value target" we blow it up and run to the green zone.
We may as well execute Iraqis ourselves.
This is what we have become.
The 12000 police are civilians trying to bring order where America has destroyed their government.. and the numbers you read never mention the wave of civilians that served to protect the country in the Iraqi army when it was wiped out during Shock and Awe - which is our cute term for executing virtually the entire Iraqi military.
I'm not making any excuses. But Saddam hasn't done anything for a long time. He's just been managing Iraq. No big deal.
If Saddam killed 400,000 people over how many decades? 3?
And the U.S. occupation has killed 40,000 civilians in 3 years. Let's do some math, assuming the occupation was there for 3 decades, 40,000 x 10 = 400,000.
guess what US wont be there for 30+ years. there is a War going on in Iraq. during wars, people die. does that make it ok? no of course not.
why did those 400,000 people die under saddam? becuase they werent the same religion as him. didnt have his picture on the wall. maybe they just felt like killing a bunch of people that day.
but its ok Saddam hasnt done that in awhile right? it was stretched out over 3 decades so its not as bad.
Why are people dying there now? Because they don't have American Freedom and American Democracy?
A war? Bull shit! they can't hurt us.. they can't even patrol their own streets. We are killing them because they are can't defend themselves and we want to change the Middle East - so we are doing so over their dead bodies
they are killing each other.
That is a fact.. because the United States took it upon themselves to kill all of their military - and their government. So the criminals are now free to kill whom they want - and as they rise up and try to gain control of things - we kill them - call them insurgents - or some other convenient name - and kill them.
have you been there? you have an idea in your head about what is going on there but you really have no idea how true your statements are. you simply hate that we went there, which is fine, but you have your own pre conceptions of what the US is actually doing while in Iraq.
doesnt anyone get tired of hearing how terrible America is around here or is it just me?
I am tired of how terrible America is... is it just me?
lol. What makes you so enlightened? Have you been there?
You don't know either. You just choose to hear what you want. The Iraqis dont' want us there...is it that hard to grasp???
Is anyone tired of hearing people make excuse for this administration no matter how wrong it is? America is just fine, it's the fucks in power are the problem.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
well, that 12,000 aren't civilians....
they are not insurgents
or terrorists
or foreign fighters
or Iraqi military
clever way to keep the numbers down - classify them all different and never talk about all of them at the same time
12,000 Iraqi police officers....
lets see - thats 4 Iraqi police officers killed for every single person kill in New York city on September 11th.
hmmm..
40,000 Iraqi Civilians
50,000 Iraqi Insurgentsurl=http://www.washtimes.com/world/20050726-121818-8711r.htm]Washington Times[/url
I can't find the number of Iraqi military killed, but I'm slacking my work duties here, so I'll have to look more later.
That 50,000 insurgents were in only the 7 monthy prior to June 2005! and it seems killed or arrested...
I am interested in the 40,000 civilians.. I bet that was since the ground invasion - or later - perhaps since we declaired victory and got Saddam - or perhaps even later than that..
God knows how many were killed during the bombing campaign
I never claimed to have been there or made any assumptions as to what the US military is doing while there like the guy I was quoted did.
is that enlightening enough for you?
My bad, I was running out of time, thanks for clearing that up
Ever watched a documentary on it? With real footage on the ground? Interviews with Iraqi "insurgents" etc.?
I think the major difference here is that the decapitated bodies are dumped on the streets and alleys in smaller numbers, instead of tossed into mass graves.
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You gotta remember... Saddam and his 2 sons didn't kill all of those people themselves.
Hail, Hail!!!
then feel free to leave anytime. i'm sure el queda would love to have people with the same mentality as you
perhaps.. though I think they have prospered very well in Iraq.
When your friends or family disapoint you - did you just leave them?
This is my country - and I will stay - and try to be a good citizen, and contribute where I can - focusing primarily on the education of my children right now.
I wouldn't consider walking out on my country when clearly there has never been a time when they need good people more.
tell osama I said fuck you