There are no good republican candidates

AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
edited December 2007 in A Moving Train
If Bush could run again, the Republicans would be falling all over themselves to support him - and he'd be their nomination

and he would probably win again

This nation is disgusting
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  • Abuskedti wrote:
    There are no good republican candidates
    wow, breaking news....
  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    if the builder burgs don't engage in "pest control", then ron paul has a great chance...

    taking bets, here and now...;)
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i don't know.....did you see alan keyes was at the debate?? ;)
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  • chikevinchikevin Posts: 421
    that entire debate today was just painful.
  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    I think if an amendment was made to the Constitution that Arnold could win convincingly over any of the current crop of candidates. That goes for both the primaries and the general election. Of course that will probably never happen (the amendment). All those tree huggin', latte sippin', juice drinkin', non smokin', fruits and nuts in California love that Republican. If he is that electable there, he could roll in the national elections. I'm having a little deja vu here; wasn't there another Hollywood character that was a Republican governor in California that was kinda a popular president? Hmmm...
  • i don't know.....did you see alan keyes was at the debate?? ;)

    What gets me,
    is that Alan was the HIGHLIGHT of the debate!
    You know Im a paultard, but half of what Keyes said was right on and his delivery (while slightly offputting, har har) is much more persuasive. Obviously he has some major flaws, but you gotta give him credit for serving some truth to the room on a few ocassion!

    :D
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  • Abuskedti wrote:
    If Bush could run again, the Republicans would be falling all over themselves to support him - and he'd be their nomination

    and he would probably win again

    This nation is disgusting

    Is Ron in this category or no?
  • t206t206 Posts: 63
    melodious wrote:
    if the builder burgs don't engage in "pest control", then ron paul has a great chance...

    taking bets, here and now...;)


    Ron Paul has more than a chance right now...just watch and see how much money he raises this Sunday, Dec. 16th. Im willing to bet he rasies between $6 and $10 mil on that day. He already has a ton of support, and the attention that this gets will just increase it more.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Is Ron in this category or no?

    No because the Republicans are not supporting him. He is essentially a third party candidate. He may win with the republican voters, but the party does not want to nominate him. - and I'd be shocked if they do.

    Mr. Murdoch, the president of the Republican Party, has already decided that.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    You mean there are no good candidates.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    know1 wrote:
    You mean there are no good candidates.

    No, I mean this country is so messed up it woulld reelect George W Bush

    that is what I mean.
  • Abuskedti wrote:
    No, I mean this country is so messed up it woulld reelect George W Bush

    that is what I mean.

    Given the amount of underground support that Dr. Paul has these days, i tend to politely disagree with you, Bu!

    Watching this mans popularity really take off in the face of a full blown media conspiracy to defame and marginalize him has given me SO much hope for our country. Seeing countless people in photos and videos holding up signs that read, "Ron Paul Cured My Apathy", tells me that I am not alone by any stretch, and that as the good doctor says, "Liberty really is a popular message."

    :D
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  • t206 wrote:
    Ron Paul has more than a chance right now...just watch and see how much money he raises this Sunday, Dec. 16th. Im willing to bet he rasies between $6 and $10 mil on that day. He already has a ton of support, and the attention that this gets will just increase it more.

    Question for you... if Ron Paul did raise $10 million, would he spend any of it? I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but I don't think that man even knows how to spend money.
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  • Question for you... if Ron Paul did raise $10 million, would he spend any of it? I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but I don't think that man even knows how to spend money.

    You do realize he has like 6 commericials made for TV running in both Iowa and New Hampshire, right?
    Along with that, he's got a slew of radio ads, and he's got a call campaign leaving automated messages on phones, and hes stuffing mailboxes with info letters!

    :D

    10 million doesn't go quite as far as you think, and between all those TV ads and more, Ron Paul is attempting to budget prudently, to keep momentum INCREASING throughout January and Feburary. He doesn't plan on "blowing his wad" in the first week of January.

    :D
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  • ihavadogihavadog Posts: 146
    ron paul 08
    i want to be enlightened

    like i want to be told the end
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Given the amount of underground support that Dr. Paul has these days, i tend to politely disagree with you, Bu!

    Watching this mans popularity really take off in the face of a full blown media conspiracy to defame and marginalize him has given me SO much hope for our country. Seeing countless people in photos and videos holding up signs that read, "Ron Paul Cured My Apathy", tells me that I am not alone by any stretch, and that as the good doctor says, "Liberty really is a popular message."

    :D

    Well, I have seen many encouraging images over the years... I wish I could say lets see what happens.. but I am virtually certain Ron Paul will be forgotten after November.
  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    maybe the repubs might have a change of heart and see that the only way to take office from dem's in 2008 is to choose this man...ron paul

    and for the person who speaks against cali....you are right...my statespeople were definitely snowed by propaganda....

    with arnie...

    but don't ya know we love him anyway????

    maybe the best thing to do is not to vote at all....it's all in the wash, so to speak...the dominoes have already been set and this country is gonna fall...

    martial law will reign but most will think they are being protected from some unseen evil...

    take back america
    for people not corporate rule.
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Abuskedti wrote:
    No, I mean this country is so messed up it woulld reelect George W Bush

    that is what I mean.

    i really don't think so, chief. wer'e taliking an approval rating in the upper 20's to low 30's and even the republican candidates you speak of are trying to distance themselves from this fuck-up. Its just one flub after another.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • People don't realize this whole freedom experiment for the past few hundred years is about to implode on itself as the greedy get greedier and those suposedly moderating are in fact participating.

    Make no mistake, the power of surveillance and societal control is not for terrorism so much as it is for internal means. Don't fall victim to the mentality.

    Mainstream voting is a grave mistake that your children and grandchildren will resent you for.

    Look for an high integrity candidate that talks seriously about empowering the people, and returning back to core values.

    That man is Ron Paul.
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  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    Look for an high integrity candidate that talks seriously about empowering the people, and returning back to core values.


    do you think he will recognize compassionate caregiving?
    do you think he will alleviate the immigration application process?
    what about gun control?


    will he bring our children home? or will he let the black water regade take over as privatized security?

    I honestly have joined this thread to open my mind..so if you can sell me as to why you think mr. paul is good, i would appreciate... your time..thank you.

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  • melodious wrote:
    Look for an high integrity candidate that talks seriously about empowering the people, and returning back to core values.


    do you think he will recognize compassionate caregiving?
    do you think he will alleviate the immigration application process?
    what about gun control?


    will he bring our children home? or will he let the black water regade take over as privatized security?

    I honestly have joined this thread to open my mind..so if you can sell me as to why you think mr. paul is good, i would appreciate... your time..thank you.

    peace begins within.

    Compassionate Caregiving - Dr. Ron Paul spent his life in medicing GIVING AWAY treatment to those that couldnt afford it. He believes the best way to moderate "welfare" with functioning free markets is through the use of charity, not federal programs which are tyrannical to the tax payer, and serve to further a class divide resentment. Put more money in the people's pockets, and maybe they would choose to spend more on charity voluntarily.

    Immigration Reform - Well, you would certainly get immigration reform. I honestly haven't heard him speak of the application process itself, but if it is a beaurecratic mess, then my guess is he would (in time) try to stream line the sucker. Ron Paul IS about following the law, and if getting LEGAL immigrants in to this country is a screwed up process, his thought would be "we have to fix the process to reward those who are following the law, not those who are violating it!"

    Gun control - unless you mean "reduce and dismantle" it, your not gonna get that. He certainly doesn't believe in federal control, and i'm pretty sure he doesn't even leave it to states rights, since it is explicitly listed #2 in the BORights.

    Troops - 100% man. They'd be home in a few months after he took office. From EVERYWHERE. Not just iraq.

    Blackwater -- hell no! Mercinaries are actualy outlawed by the constitution. I can't believe we actualy have them.
    Part of the reason they are banned by the constitution is to keep taxpayers from being oppressed by a government which, unable to raise enough troops (because the people don't view the cause as acceptable), simply goes out and buys them to start a war. That, and representing a country with hired guns can (and does) turn out ugly.
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  • I'm basically a republican, and I agree with you. I don't know who the hell to vote for.

    I disagree that this country would re-re-elect GWB. A Democrat -- any Democrat -- would beat him in a landslide this time around.

    ps -- you Ron Paul folks are kidding yourselves. No way in hell he gets the nomination. No way in hell.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    cornnifer wrote:
    i really don't think so, chief. wer'e taliking an approval rating in the upper 20's to low 30's and even the republican candidates you speak of are trying to distance themselves from this fuck-up. Its just one flub after another.

    Thats because he can't be reelected.. Thats because its now politically beneficial to turn your back on him.... The republican machine can rally behind him and America would follow...
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