Its not about Imus

Abuskedti
Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
edited April 2007 in A Moving Train
Its not even about race.

The issue should be... in my humble opinion

People rarely appreciate the influence television personalities have in this country. Something must be done. They have a significant impact on elections and every other important issue.

There is absolutely no accountability... it is a major facto for our deteriorating society.
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  • Drew263
    Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Its not even about race.

    The issue should be... in my humble opinion

    People rarely appreciate the influence television personalities have in this country. Something must be done. They have a significant impact on elections and every other important issue.

    There is absolutely no accountability... it is a major facto for our deteriorating society.

    It's society's fault though. Someone getting their feelings hurt over what someone else says, is their own damn fault. The pussification of America is happening before our eyes. We walk around looking for a reason to get offended. It's pathetic.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Its not even about race.

    The issue should be... in my humble opinion

    People rarely appreciate the influence television personalities have in this country. Something must be done. They have a significant impact on elections and every other important issue.

    There is absolutely no accountability... it is a major facto for our deteriorating society.

    the problem is women's basketball. it's about as exciting as watching paint dry, only less practical.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Its not even about race.

    The issue should be... in my humble opinion

    People rarely appreciate the influence television personalities have in this country. Something must be done. They have a significant impact on elections and every other important issue.

    There is absolutely no accountability... it is a major facto for our deteriorating society.

    In my opinion, the problem is being consistent in who you criticize for their actions and on what grounds. In other words, the behavior should be the issue, not just the person who exhibits that behavior.

    There are people who could have made the same comments in a public forum and nobody would have batted an eye. That's hypocrisy.
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  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Drew263 wrote:
    It's society's fault though. Someone getting their feelings hurt over what someone else says, is their own damn fault. The pussification of America is happening before our eyes. We walk around looking for a reason to get offended. It's pathetic.

    Its not just about getting offended. It about all the other influences. Though I don't agree at all that these women should be callied pussies by you because they were offended when someone famous calles them Nappy Headed Hos on television....

    Conversly, why would you be so concerned about what they are saying about Imus if what people say doesn't matter...
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    soulsinging wrote:
    the problem is women's basketball. it's about as exciting as watching paint dry, only less practical.

    I do somewhat agree with that.. :)
  • Drew263
    Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Its not just about getting offended. It about all the other influences. Though I don't agree at all that these women should be callied pussies by you because they were offended when someone famous calles them Nappy Headed Hos on television....

    Conversly, why would you be so concerned about what they are saying about Imus if what people say doesn't matter...

    When I talk about the pussification of America..I'm not just talking about this one specific incident. But let's use it as an example...one of the girls said she was "scarred for life". How the fuck can someone with half a brain be scarred for life b/c a radio personality said they looked like nappy headed ho's? That's pathetic. Plain and simple.

    And I'm not concerned about what people say about Imus..you're missing my point as a whole. My question is, why do we walk around looking for something or someone to offend us? It's b/c we've turned into a nation of emotional pussies..and this fact also goes along with what you're saying about the other influences from tv/media/etc. Why are we so easily brainwashed? Both sides are...so why? Pussification of America..that's why.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Drew263 wrote:
    When I talk about the pussification of America..I'm not just talking about this one specific incident. But let's use it as an example...one of the girls said she was "scarred for life". How the fuck can someone with half a brain be scarred for life b/c a radio personality said they looked like nappy headed ho's? That's pathetic. Plain and simple.

    And I'm not concerned about what people say about Imus..you're missing my point as a whole. My question is, why do we walk around looking for something or someone to offend us? It's b/c we've turned into a nation of emotional pussies..and this fact also goes along with what you're saying about the other influences from tv/media/etc. Why are we so easily brainwashed? Both sides are...so why? Pussification of America..that's why.

    I still say you are being judgemental. Why shouldn't this young lady be scarred? She reached a tremendous goal.. and from her point of view was slapped in the face and reminded that many in this country still don't like her because of her heritage. Where are you coming from to imply that this is somehow odd?

    She expected to go home and see herself on television in celebration - and not the subject of a racial conflict or attack.
  • Drew263
    Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    Abuskedti wrote:
    I still say you are being judgemental. Why shouldn't this young lady be scarred? She reached a tremendous goal.. and from her point of view was slapped in the face and reminded that many in this country still don't like her because of her heritage. Where are you coming from to imply that this is somehow odd?

    She expected to go home and see herself on television in celebration - and not the subject of a racial conflict or attack.

    See you're proving my point. Again I ask..what about the white girls on the team?

    You're ASSuming it was a racial statement...ie looking to be offended.

    And don't get me started on the hypocrisy of it in this country.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Drew263 wrote:
    See you're proving my point. Again I ask..what about the white girls on the team?

    You're ASSuming it was a racial statement...ie looking to be offended.

    And don't get me started on the hypocrisy of it in this country.

    It was racial.. Nappy headed.. is racial. Simple as that regardless of how he meant it - the term is racial

    not only that ... it is racial because it was made racial as you could see in Al Sharpton's guest Imus..

    This girl did not make it racial.. and your denial that its racial doesn't change the fact that this is a racial issue
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Its not even about race.

    The issue should be... in my humble opinion

    People rarely appreciate the influence television personalities have in this country. Something must be done. They have a significant impact on elections and every other important issue.

    There is absolutely no accountability... it is a major facto for our deteriorating society.

    I think it's more about power and control...

    what I mean is, for some reason, it's ok for a black person/comedian/personality to say was Imus said, but it's not ok for anyone else to say it...kinda like when two kids are playing, and one commands power over a toy, and takes that toy, thus preventing others from having it...

    the same thing is happening with words..."that's my word or phrase, and you can't use it..."
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    inmytree wrote:
    I think it's more about power and control...

    what I mean is, for some reason, it's ok for a black person/comedian/personality to say was Imus said, but it's not ok for anyone else to say it...kinda like when two kids are playing, and one commands power over a toy, and takes that toy, thus preventing others from having it...

    the same thing is happening with words..."that's my word or phrase, and you can't use it..."

    The "N" word is not a toy. Do you really believe its childish need for power that drives black people to cringe when they hear white people use that word?
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Who fucking cares. I think Chuck Nice said it best of the Radio Chick yesterday when he said that everyone needs to shut the hell up. Racism exists and it will always exists, unfortunetly and instead of focusing on what one old white dude said the Black community should focus on the people within their community who continue to prepetrate the stereotypes. What Imus said was stupid but let's not forget that rappers, who happen to be role models to many black youths in this country, say the same damn thing and worse. So instead of just focusing in on Imus we should address the problem as a whole.
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  • Drew263
    Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    Abuskedti wrote:
    It was racial.. Nappy headed.. is racial. Simple as that regardless of how he meant it - the term is racial

    not only that ... it is racial because it was made racial as you could see in Al Sharpton's guest Imus..

    This girl did not make it racial.. and your denial that its racial doesn't change the fact that this is a racial issue


    lol...I'm not denying anything. But to say nappy head is racial is ridiculous. Ever been to a bluegrass festival in Colorado? I'll show you white folk with nappy ass hair.

    People like you are to blame for young people not having any mental toughness whatsoever anymore. Waaaaaaa...Don Imus called me nappy headed...Waaaaaa

    What the fuck happened to "Sticks and Stones"?? Pussy liberals..that's what.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Something must be done.

    Why don't you try turning it off?
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Drew263 wrote:
    lWhat the fuck happened to "Sticks and Stones"?? Pussy liberals..that's what.


    That's it just blame everything on liberals.
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  • boxwine_in_hell
    boxwine_in_hell Posts: 1,263
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Its not even about race.

    The issue should be... in my humble opinion

    People rarely appreciate the influence television personalities have in this country. Something must be done. They have a significant impact on elections and every other important issue.

    There is absolutely no accountability... it is a major facto for our deteriorating society.

    The bottom line is a media personality can say whatever the hell they want. It's up to those that scratch his check to decide whether what he said is reason for termination.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Abuskedti wrote:
    The "N" word is not a toy. Do you really believe its childish need for power that drives black people to cringe when they hear white people use that word?

    it's their word now, they can use it freely...no one else can...that's all I'm saying...if that word is soooo hurtful, offensive and injurious...perhaps everyone should stop using it...

    also, do you really think "cringe" is the right word...? infuriate sounds better to me...

    please note: I'm not saying it's ok to use the n word, if fact you brought that one up, not me....Imus said something completely different...
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Its not even about race.

    The issue should be... in my humble opinion

    People rarely appreciate the influence television personalities have in this country. Something must be done. They have a significant impact on elections and every other important issue.

    There is absolutely no accountability... it is a major facto for our deteriorating society.

    i remember free speech. now it's only ok for minorities to make comments against whites.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    boxwine_in_hell wrote:
    The bottom line is a media personality can say whatever the hell they want. It's up to those that scratch his check to decide whether what he said is reason for termination.

    I don't think he should be terminated as punishment.. though he will likely lose sponsorship and not be worth keeping on.

    My problem is that the Media definately controls public opinion and that is a problem. A very big problem - perhaps the biggest in this country.
  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    Drew263 wrote:
    What the fuck happened to "Sticks and Stones"?? Pussy liberals..that's what.

    Hehe. You said the "P" word. This from someone with a name that you cannot tell if they are a guy or gal. What's up Ms. Barrymore?
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