Abortions: China vs the North America

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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    surferdude wrote:
    Until a pro-lifer actually breaks a law you should be happy that they feel free to exercise their democratic rights.
    I was thinking of pro-lifers in government trying to change the laws. I'm fine with people exercising their rights, right up to the point where their rights are interfering with mine.
    surferdude wrote:
    In China the high abortion rate of female babies is not government driven.
    China does not force abortions, but their one-child policy remains in effect in urban areas, with economic disincentives to those who violate it, which obviously is going to result in more abortions.
    But you are seemingly content with a North American culture that devalues people with disabilities and/or downs. This is why I will always be for Human Rights and not feminism. I recognize the notion that all people are equal, not just all people without disabilities.
    I really don't know where you get the idea that I'm ok with a culture that devalues any particular type of person, whether they be disabled, female, or whatever else. This is not a criticism we bleeding heart liberal types hear very often! ;)
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    hippiemom wrote:
    I really don't know where you get the idea that I'm ok with a culture that devalues any particular type of person, whether they be disabled, female, or whatever else. This is not a criticism we bleeding heart liberal types hear very often! ;)
    But more people on this board (possibly not you) seem to take offence at what's happening in China but not in their own backyard. Even though it's happening at a much higher rate at home.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    surferdude wrote:
    But more people on this board (possibly not you) seem to take offence at what's happening in China but not in their own backyard. Even though it's happening at a much higher rate at home.
    That's quite possibly true. I think it's human nature to tend to accept the familiar. Most of us on this board have lived in the west all our lives so we've absorbed the culture and to us it appears "normal." It's good for us to question our assumptions about everything, especially things that seem quite "natural" to us, and there are many people who rarely do that.

    Edit: Incidentally, in defense of feminism, I want to point out that there have been feminists at the forefront of every movement to secure rights for the "have-nots" in our society. Feminists have been very much involved in the movements for civil-rights, patient's rights, gay rights, rights for the disabled, and I'm sure I'm forgetting quite a few others. We're not just all about the ladies :)
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    hippiemom wrote:
    Edit: Incidentally, in defense of feminism, I want to point out that there have been feminists at the forefront of every movement to secure rights for the "have-nots" in our society. Feminists have been very much involved in the movements for civil-rights, patient's rights, gay rights, rights for the disabled, and I'm sure I'm forgetting quite a few others. We're not just all about the ladies :)
    The best definitely aren't. Sam efor the good men. I'm sure you fall into the best category.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley

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