Liberals Invite American Politician To Speak At Convention

surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
edited December 2006 in A Moving Train
I find this quite funny considering the mantra from the Liberals that the Candian Conservatives want to be like the US. Yet it's the Lieberals having an American politician as a guest speaker at their leadership convention. Can you say full of shit hypocrites?
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  • qtegirlqtegirl Posts: 321
    who is the American politician?
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    qtegirl wrote:
    who is the American politician?
    Howard Dean.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • mrwalkerbmrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    surferdude wrote:
    Howard Dean.

    is the not retarded one or am I thinking of someone else?
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    surferdude wrote:
    Howard Dean.

    YEEEAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    And yes, the Liberals are huge hypocrites ...
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Interesting, last year Bill Clinton spoke at the John Labatt centre in London, Ontario. I wonder if anyone went.
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  • Ahnimus wrote:
    Interesting, last year Bill Clinton spoke at the John Labatt centre in London, Ontario. I wonder if anyone went.

    Clinton spoke at TCU Place in Saskatoon last winter....ticket sold out in less than 2 minutes...I tried but alas I failed to get tickets...heard it was very good.....Howard Dean is better than last times speaker....Bono....but still think they could have done better....maybe should have got Eddie :)
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Clinton spoke at TCU Place in Saskatoon last winter....ticket sold out in less than 2 minutes...I tried but alas I failed to get tickets...heard it was very good.....Howard Dean is better than last times speaker....Bono....but still think they could have done better....maybe should have got Eddie :)

    That's someone I might pay to see.
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  • YES!!! more generalizations to dumb down the debate even more
    hate was just a legend
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    how is this really relevant?
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    polaris wrote:
    how is this really relevant?

    By "this" do you mean Howard Dean? He's certainly making himself less relevant in American politics. Perhaps he can find a place in Canadian politics.

    He represents the fringe left, and as chairman of the Democrat party his job is to polarize the country. In that capacity he has been successful. But he has shown an inability to unite people, and an inability to run a national campaign, so if the Liberals in Canada are looking for help with those two things, they've chosen the wrong guy. If they are looking for polarization, and dogmatic cheerleading, they've hit the jackpot.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • umm..isn't Deam the head of the DNC? And doesn't that mean he led his party to quite an impressive victory a month ago? And doesn't that mean he united people? Cause that's the impression I got with an outsider's view anyway.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    warehouse wrote:
    umm..isn't Deam the head of the DNC? And doesn't that mean he led his party to quite an impressive victory a month ago? And doesn't that mean he united people? Cause that's the impression I got with an outsider's view anyway.

    Dean didn't do much of the uniting. He certainly is the head of the DNC. There were others in charge of election strategy and candidate support. Someone else I despise, but who wins my praises for a job well done this election cycle is Charles Schumer. He put together an amazing strategy to win Senate majority. But if you'd like to credit Dean with November's victory, I'll have to ask for specific contributions of his, because I didn't see them.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    jeffbr wrote:
    Dean didn't do much of the uniting. He certainly is the head of the DNC. There were others in charge of election strategy and candidate support. Someone else I despise, but who wins my praises for a job well done this election cycle is Charles Schumer. He put together an amazing strategy to win Senate majority. But if you'd like to credit Dean with November's victory, I'll have to ask for specific contributions of his, because I didn't see them.
    There was his fifty State plan wherein he used DNC money to fund and support candidates in all fifty states - even in areas not considered competitive and for which members of his own party got pissed.

    The Democrats now hold the majority of State Legislatures and Governorships - even in areas not previously considered competitive.
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    jeffbr wrote:
    By "this" do you mean Howard Dean? He's certainly making himself less relevant in American politics. Perhaps he can find a place in Canadian politics.

    He represents the fringe left, and as chairman of the Democrat party his job is to polarize the country. In that capacity he has been successful. But he has shown an inability to unite people, and an inability to run a national campaign, so if the Liberals in Canada are looking for help with those two things, they've chosen the wrong guy. If they are looking for polarization, and dogmatic cheerleading, they've hit the jackpot.

    dean doesn't even come close to being left ... nor do any democrats ... but that's a side topic ...

    i would suspect that the awful presidency has more to do with the success of the democrats than any person involved ... you can't help but vote against this sack of fraudsters ...
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    RainDog wrote:
    There was his fifty State plan wherein he used DNC money to fund and support candidates in all fifty states - even in areas not considered competitive and for which members of his own party got pissed.

    The Democrats now hold the majority of State Legislatures and Governorships - even in areas not previously considered competitive.

    It will be interesting to see how the 50-state plan plays out. He was certainly vindicated to some extent with the November election results. There were obviously races they weren't going to win in areas in which they spent money which may have been better used elsewhere, but I applaud his effort there. If nothing else, the money should help rebuild local party apparatus in preparation for 2008. But there is still a lot of internal strife between Dean and other DNCers about the plan, and there is still big debate about continuing with the 50-State plan or making a more focused effort to apply resources to areas where gains were made to continue expansion. The 2008 national strategy is going to be the real test. We'll see.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • polaris wrote:
    dean doesn't even come close to being left ... nor do any democrats ... but that's a side topic ...

    i would suspect that the awful presidency has more to do with the success of the democrats than any person involved ... you can't help but vote against this sack of fraudsters ...

    I agree...he does not come close to what I define as "left" in Canadian politics....at the very best he would be a moderate...but that in itself is cutting it close.....
  • Dean's 50 state plan was key to the election obviously, the guy may be somewhat abrasive but there's no doubting his savvy at this point. He represents the side of the party that resides far outside the House Of Clinton, definitely gotta respect that aspect.
    hate was just a legend
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    polaris wrote:
    dean doesn't even come close to being left ... nor do any democrats ... but that's a side topic ...

    You're talking about Canada, I was referring to the US. Different places, thankfully for both of us, apparently.
    polaris wrote:
    i would suspect that the awful presidency has more to do with the success of the democrats than any person involved ... you can't help but vote against this sack of fraudsters ...

    No doubt about this. I know that in my congressional district here in Washington State, the incumbant Republican, Dave Reichert, nearly lost to a political newcomer with absolutely no previous experience. This, in a district which hasn't elected a Democrat for Congress. The election was too close to call on election day, and was never supposed to be close. But the race tightend up after Bush came to campaign for Reichert. Even Reichert, without specifically stating it, intimated that Bush's visit did not help him, and in fact hurt him. So Bush did more than Dean to help elect some Democracts this year.

    That being said, the Liberals should probably formulate a plan that involves electing Bush as PM for a couple of years, at which point voters will be ready to put Liberals back in charge.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    jeffbr wrote:
    That being said, the Liberals should probably formulate a plan that involves electing Bush as PM for a couple of years, at which point voters will be ready to put Liberals back in charge.

    this is what is happening now ... although significantly smarter than GWB - he is equally only concerned with only taking care of his political base ...
  • polaris wrote:
    this is what is happening now ... although significantly smarter than GWB - he is equally only concerned with only taking care of his political base ...

    Yeah Harper is pretty bright, hate to admit it but he is.....see he has re-opened the gay marriage debate again....man I tell you...the cliche of flogging a dead horse does not even apply to this anymore....give it up Stevo.....
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    Yeah Harper is pretty bright, hate to admit it but he is.....see he has re-opened the gay marriage debate again....man I tell you...the cliche of flogging a dead horse does not even apply to this anymore....give it up Stevo.....

    i think he got caught up in own britches tho ... he's riding some imaginary wave of success that makes him think he can do whatever he wants ...
  • polaris wrote:
    i think he got caught up in own britches tho ... he's riding some imaginary wave of success that makes him think he can do whatever he wants ...

    It is all in his head.....what I don't understand, which if I was in his shoes I would be devastated in his current situation...yeah yeah your a PM of a minority government but you failed to compltely destroy a mortally wounded party....that to me makes me wonder where this party is headed and he better keep his social conservatism ideas on his back bench b/c that is what will kill him in the next election.....
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    It is all in his head.....what I don't understand, which if I was in his shoes I would be devastated in his current situation...yeah yeah your a PM of a minority government but you failed to compltely destroy a mortally wounded party....that to me makes me wonder where this party is headed and he better keep his social conservatism ideas on his back bench b/c that is what will kill him in the next election.....

    yeah ... to poll (whatever they are worth) the same as the liberals who are reeling from integrity and scandal and who also don't have a leader is not very good strategically ... their eagerness to put us in war and the subsequent snub from nato along with their environment plan are major setbacks ... poor strategy in my mind ...
  • polaris wrote:
    yeah ... to poll (whatever they are worth) the same as the liberals who are reeling from integrity and scandal and who also don't have a leader is not very good strategically ... their eagerness to put us in war and the subsequent snub from nato along with their environment plan are major setbacks ... poor strategy in my mind ...


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