Official warning against the killing of civillians...

thankyougrandma

NCfan wrote:

As long as Hizbollah is allowed to exist within Lebanon, there will never be peace in that region.

So the goal is to kick Hizbollah out of Lebanon. We may disagree here, but I don't think that could ever be done without force. Well, I take that back - I do think it is possible to accomplish that goal without military force, but I think it would take generational turnover, and is too risky a strategy at this point.

Anyhow, if Israel finishes this off once and for all - (kick Hizbollah out) then we will have a chance at peace. So in my view, what Israel is doing - is actually preventing the deaths of innocent Israeli's AND Lebonese by attempting to take out Hizbollah once and for all.

I wish they could do it without civillians getting killed, but that's just not possible.

I agree that Hezbollah must disappear and these cowards targetting civillians zone must be arrested or at least target the millitary, it's not like they don't have any military targets in Israel. I don't know how to stop that, i like what Chirac says, but nobody's listening unless it's the USA President talking.

That being said, Israel must do the same thing, havent you seen how they bombed some plubing digger in the christian neighboorhood? Either they get their shit straight and do it accordingly to international human rights conventions (signed by the USA and Canada btw), or just don't do it and try to find another way, right now it is wrong to kill civillians and they're not just "colateral" damages, they're targetting civillians zone even if they have nothing to do with Hezbollah, they're killing LEBANESE civillians. The part where we disagree might be that you consider Israel killing as co-lateral damages and necessary, while i think it's war crimes, well not that i think, it is war crimes. The problem might be the Israeli intel who seem to be so bad and their military who seem to be so unaccurate, but that's the responsability that they have, by attacking a nation, to make sure that these attacks are accurate and civillians are not targetted. Even if Hezbollah are hiding in civillians zone, it is NOT justify to kill civillians, a life worth the same for everyone and it's never justify to kill civillians, even if it's by mistake, errors, or intentional.

Pacomc79

yeah so how many Hutu's and Tutsi's are being tried for war crimes by the UN?

Any word on war crimes in Sudan?


All politics. All of it.


Israel is being ridiculous in bombing Beirut I agree, it's just funny how the UN picks and chooses what to worry about.

thankyougrandma

Pacomc79 wrote:

yeah so how many Hutu's and Tutsi's are being tried for war crimes by the UN?

Any word on war crimes in Sudan?


All politics. All of it.


Israel is being ridiculous in bombing Beirut I agree, it's just funny how the UN picks and chooses what to worry about.

Wow, Rwanda situation is still under investigation and it's not as clear of a situation, they know what happened but have no guilty part since there's no cooperation and most of the peoples involved are dead, you clearly should try to get inform on that matter, it's all there, well documented. But in the end Rwanda was a pure fucked up and madness that could have been prevented or stopped, anyway who cares...

Sudan crimes are also under investigation and they have already (Louise Arbour involved) figure out what is happening and how it is still allowed to continue, some people might have to respond if they are ever arrested, the Sudanese govt. have responsability, just as the Israel govt. have, again it's all there and it's nothing new. If they believe they need to investigate Israel and their govt., they will and they'll come up with a report, such a report exist for Sudan and Rwanda... and Milosevic (funny how you forget to mention that part)...

I laugh at you for laughing at the U.N. civil right department. I wasn't expecting any less than discredit by americans, it's obvious, even from the moderate ones... sorry for the generalisation, but it's always this way around here...

RockinInCanada

zstillings wrote:

I was only stating that since it seems that all the blame for civilians being killed is being placed on Israel on this board. Part of the reason that the Lebanese civilians in the south are being killed is because of the Hezbollah road blocks that are trapping what the terrorists see as their "cover." I am not saying that is the only reason as I stated in response to one of your posts that this is overkill by the Israeli army.

Yeah thats part of the problem...the other part that needs to be included is that Israel has essentially cut all the main roads off to Beruit...so that adds even more difficulty...

momofglynn

MCG wrote:

That's because he's a puppet.

they are all puppets now-a-days it seems. I just feel sick to my stomach about the hell in the middle east. From what we (the USA) have done, to what is currently going on. And the sickest thing is I think Bush is loving the fact that this is happening now, it's taking the spot light off of him and his stupid war that he wanted to have on his resume.

floyd1975

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

Yeah thats part of the problem...the other part that needs to be included is that Israel has essentially cut all the main roads off to Beruit...so that adds even more difficulty...

Agreed.