North American Union

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edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
If true, this union will come way sooner than many of us would have expected. The currency would be the AMERO. Have a nice read:

Stephen Harper's "Quisling" government pursues further talks for U.S. take-over of Canada

by Don Nordin

September 16, 2006
The Canadian

Media organization elites cover-up the biggest scandal in Canadian history

What would you think if it was announced that Canada was to cease as an independent country as early as 2007? Would it matter to you? Would you want to know who was responsible? What would you do?

Well, during the last week there have been announcements from at least two sources that Canada will soon cease to exist as a sovereign country.

The first notice I received was in the form of an Aug. 18 email from Connie Fogal, leader of the Canadian Action Party. The email includes a bulletin from the Fraser Institute entitled, "The Case for the Amero: The Institutions of a North American Monetary Union." A statement near the end of the bulletin reads, "On the day the North American Monetary Union is created--perhaps on January 1, 2010--Canada, the United States, and Mexico will replace their national currencies with the Amero. On that day, all American dollar notes and coins will be exchanged at the rate of one US dollar for one Amero."

Then much worst news came. On August 30 I received, indirectly from an email correspondent, an article from 'Vivelecanada.ca' entitled, "Timeline of the Progress Towards a North American Union". At the end of the timeline it projected that the North American Union would be created in 2007, three years before the projection of the Fraser Institute!

You might ask how we got into a situation where our country would be dismantled without our consent. Well, from World Net Daily we read that "the White House has established working groups, under the North American Free Trade Agreement office in the Department of Commerce, to implement the Security and Prosperity Partnership (also called the North American Union) signed by President Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox and then Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waco, Texas, March 23, 2005". This was done without authorization of the U.S. Congress or any level of government in all three countries as far as I am able to ascertain.

Where is all this heading?

We are heading into a One World neo-fascistic government and a One World economy where sovereign countries are being systematically destroyed. It's called the New World Order and it's been in the works for decades. At the moment, George W. Bush is the figurehead leader in front of a neo-conservative (fascist) ruling elite which is the driving force behind the NOW agenda. It is an agenda by and for the ruling elites. The middle class, the only collective power that has the strength to fight back against this agenda, if they could ever unite in purpose, is being systematically destroyed. If the trend continues, the vast majority of workers will be driven down to the lowest level.

Don't look to Prime Minister Stephen Harper to "Stand up for Canada" as the they indicated during the last federal election campaign; and fight against the take-over of Canada via a U.S. imperial "North American Union and to save our sovereignty. He is solidly behind President George W. Bush. It is even said that NDP leader, Jack Layton, has formed an alliance with Stephen Harper - see Jacques Lemieux's article in The Canadian in which he makes his case and concludes, "A working alliance between Mr. Harper and Mr. Layton is the only thing that can explain why Mr. Layton has chosen not to apparently rally Canadians against the clearly reactionary agenda of Mr. Harper."

So who's fighting for Canada?

There is only one party that has a solid sovereigntist agenda - the Canadian Action Party. David Orchard is also trying to recruit followers in an attempt to turn the Liberal party into a sovereigntist party. But these political efforts, even if one succeeds, will be too late. This is because the North American Union will already be in place before the next Canadian national election. Clearly, another strategy is necessary if we are to save our country.

Where is the discussion on how to save Canada?

The discussion is definitely not in the corporatized "mainstream media". The mainstream media is an arm of the same elite that is trying to implement the North American Union. The discussion will take place on the internet amongst concerned citizens and concerned organizations, on the streets and in your community. It is the people at the grassroots that have the potential to fire up a meaningful discussion on this issue. If they don't, we are finished as a nation.

Finally, what does this mean for people in Lumby?

In a nutshell, as the nation goes, so will its people. We will not be impervious to these high level machinations. Our economy will continue to be corporatized and those corporations will continue to merge into larger entities. With the influx of cheap imported goods, small farmers, businesspeople, and entrepreneurs will be driven under by being forced to compete against larger, more powerful corporate entities.

Unless we wake up fast and begin to unite and pose an effective fightback, we can say goodbye to Canada and our prosperous way of life.

Also an extensive timeline of the North American Union...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NOR20060916&articleId=3243
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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    The fear mongerers are getting desperate now. Convenient that this comes out so soon after the NDP and Layton's recent policy debacle.

    TYG - I'll give you a 2000 poster free if Canada joins a North American Union in 2007 and stops being an independant country. What are you willing to give in return when this article proves wrong?
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  • surferdude wrote:
    The fear mongerers are getting desperate now. Convenient that this comes out so soon after the NDP and Layton's recent policy debacle.

    TYG - I'll give you a 2000 poster free if Canada joins a North American Union in 2007 and stops being an independant country. What are you willing to give in return when this article proves wrong?

    NDP debacle???? you're lost dude... it's said in the article that the NDP and Layton are not helping at all, and i'm not posting this as a fear mongering anything, just posting something i was reading and thought would be interesting to share here since there was some discussion about it in the past on this board, i'd give you nothing and want nothing from you, and i'm not saying it WILL happen.
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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    NDP debacle????
    The NDP's recent convention was a debacle. Calling the Canadian troops terrorists going into it. Calling for an abandonment of NATO commitments.

    I could see Canada entering a North American Union, much like the EU. But Canda would maintain it's independance from the US, just like Italy is still independant from France and Britain. If a North American Union happens like the EU I wonder if Quebec's nationhood would be recognized at that time?
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    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • you want to get canadians to band together?....you want Quebec to stop calling for separatism?....this would do it.... maybe people would finally wake up and see that harper is a mindless f'n robot only doing damage to our nation.

    worst case scenerio? ill move to Ireland.
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  • surferdude wrote:
    The NDP's recent convention was a debacle. Calling the Canadian troops terrorists going into it. Calling for an abandonment of NATO commitments.

    I could see Canada entering a North American Union, much like the EU. But Canda would maintain it's independance from the US, just like Italy is still independant from France and Britain. If a North American Union happens like the EU I wonder if Quebec's nationhood would be recognized at that time?

    Well, NDP debacle or not, it has nothing to do with this North American Union. I don't think much right now about the NDP, sometimes my sympathy is higher, sometimes it's lower, it change from months to months.

    About the Union, i think the article is definitly biased, but the news sources on this are kind of hard to find. I think they're going too far in the article by saying Canada would LOSE soverignty, but that's why politicians would win at explaining more about this issue, to stop the disinformation. If it's like the EU maybe could be good, if it's something else it could also be good, but both options could also be bad. I don't know enough. So far what i've heard or read is not really looking good.

    About Quebec, again i don't know, but Quebec independance could be a start to this union, since Nafta and all those accord would have to be re-worked, i don't think Canada will ever give Quebec a nationhood, it will be up to Quebecers to take it.
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • you want to get canadians to band together?....you want Quebec to stop calling for separatism?....this would do it.... maybe people would finally wake up and see that harper is a mindless f'n robot only doing damage to our nation.

    worst case scenerio? ill move to Ireland.

    This North American Union could definitly lead to Canadian finally reaching together on one topic, from coast to coast... to coast. But nobody knows about it... or maybe it's just an internet inventions :)
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • Thanks for the info. TYG...and I defiently agree with you that this is not fear mongering...for that matter this topic (different article that was US related to the issue) has been discussed on this very forum...I hate the idea of becoming a Euro. Union group...especially with the emergance of our economy (which is predicted to have the highest growth of all G7 countries...around +3.3% I believe)....I hope I never see this happen in my lifetime...I could give two flying f&*k's that in Euro. Italy is independant I want nothing to do with this proposal.....to me our policy will be then even more dictated by American interests and I without a doubt believe it would be them making the crucial decisions in regards to our union....

    I would sooner die than see this occur.....
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    About Quebec, again i don't know, but Quebec independance could be a start to this union, since Nafta and all those accord would have to be re-worked, i don't think Canada will ever give Quebec a nationhood, it will be up to Quebecers to take it.
    I don't know about that. If you could basically change my mind on it, you cited examples that seem to work well, I'm not sure why it couldn't be sold to the rest of Canada. I think the biggest hurdle is to get a Prime Minister to say it out loud. I'm surprised that the Bloq doesn't only refer to Quebec as it's own nation. If nationhood is what Quebec wants rather than seperation I'm surprised the Bloq doesn't push for it.
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  • Somehow I don't see Mexico in any kind of North American Union... And if, by some strange twist of fate, Mexico was incorporated into a North American Union, I very much doubt it would have the same treatment and "rights" as the other 2 countries would have...
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  • caifan82 wrote:
    Somehow I don't see Mexico in any kind of North American Union... And if, by some strange twist of fate, Mexico was incorporated into a North American Union, I very much doubt it would have the same treatment and "rights" as the other 2 countries would have...

    I highly doubt that our countries would have any sort of "power" in this situation....going on my gut instinct on this one....
  • DerrickDerrick Posts: 475
    all i'm hearing is that I could move to some place warm without having to get a visa workpermit or greencard.

    I have political morals, but meh....not that strong.
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    Thanks for the info. TYG...and I defiently agree with you that this is not fear mongering...
    The article moves into fear mongering when it talks about Canada no longer being a sovereign country. At no point was any backing for this made, nor is it the model employed by the EU.

    Just look at how some turned this into an anti-Harer thing. Where is the hate for Layton? It's baseless and partisan, that's why it's fear mongering.
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  • surferdude wrote:
    I don't know about that. If you could basically change my mind on it, you cited examples that seem to work well, I'm not sure why it couldn't be sold to the rest of Canada. I think the biggest hurdle is to get a Prime Minister to say it out loud. I'm surprised that the Bloq doesn't only refer to Quebec as it's own nation. If nationhood is what Quebec wants rather than seperation I'm surprised the Bloq doesn't push for it.

    Bloc and most separatist are looking for more than just the recognition of a nation, but if you remember the last elections (and the previous one also) televised debates, Duceppe was trying hard to get the Prime Minister to call Quebec a nation, then they tried to make Harper say it, but none have said it, the Bloc is trying, even if that's not their objectives.

    I think there's a puck up for grab and those politicians (Igniatieff seem to be working on that) who want to win Quebec seats should start looking at this Nation recognition thing, but i believe it would then be unpopular in the ROC, peoples from Newfoundland would start to ask the same, then peoples from the Prairie would say they're different from those in Toronto, the same old never ending circle. Very unpopular in the ROC but it's the only way to make Quebec enter the Canadian constitution, by calling Quebec a nation (well what is now called Quebec, but mosltly all the history that goes with it).

    So popular in Quebec, unpopular in the ROC, that's why i believe it won't happen soon, if it does i'll be the first one to cheer and celebrate...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • surferdude wrote:
    The article moves into fear mongering when it talks about Canada no longer being a sovereign country. At no point was any backing for this made, nor is it the model employed by the EU.

    Just look at how some turned this into an anti-Harer thing. Where is the hate for Layton? It's baseless and partisan, that's why it's fear mongering.

    I was referring to the topic of a North American Union...not about the article...I mean fear mongering in a general sense....
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    I was referring to the topic of a North American Union...not about the article...I mean fear mongering in a general sense....
    Gotcha.

    So what happened to the NDP and Layton goin ginto their convention? It's every fear people have regarding the NDP being brought out for public consumption.
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • surferdude wrote:
    Gotcha.

    So what happened to the NDP and Layton goin ginto their convention? It's every fear people have regarding the NDP being brought out for public consumption.

    I do not understand what the NDP is doing....from seeing their points of discussion it seems to me the only people they are really catering to are those that have and will continue to vote NDP......nothing wrong IMHO to be against the war in Afganistan...but to bring in Bush into Canadian politics is a bad idea in my opinion as all it does is alienate the party and make it them seem less credible in the eyes of many Canadians who never know which party they are going to vote for next...another plea to Liberal voters to jump ship to his side.....he should look at domestic issues and place his time into those and instead of the Bush hating....because really everyone knows about Bush and the aura around him no need to keep beating that horse....by now not really anything is going to change their opinion of the man.....just wish more focus from the NDP was placed on domestic issues and how they could implement the multitude of programs they would love to institute....I would love to see an actual numerical plan from the NDP.....
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    I do not understand what the NDP is doing....from seeing their points of discussion it seems to me the only people they are really catering to are those that have and will continue to vote NDP......nothing wrong IMHO to be against the war in Afganistan...but to bring in Bush into Canadian politics is a bad idea in my opinion as all it does is alienate the party and make it them seem less credible in the eyes of many Canadians who never know which party they are going to vote for next...another plea to Liberal voters to jump ship to his side.....he should look at domestic issues and place his time into those and instead of the Bush hating....because really everyone knows about Bush and the aura around him no need to keep beating that horse....by now not really anything is going to change their opinion of the man.....just wish more focus from the NDP was placed on domestic issues and how they could implement the multitude of programs they would love to institute....I would love to see an actual numerical plan from the NDP.....
    I agree with you regarding where the NDP should focus. I think the Conservatives and Liberals should be doing the same. I thought the NDP and Liberal parties are way to focused on Foreign Affairs and are forgetting about the people they want to represent.

    Saying things like Canada should only enter winnable wars doesn't make the NDP out to be big defenders of human rights. I don't think calling the Canadian military terrorists was much of a help. What confused me was Layton's laissez-faire attitude regarding it all, then backing a lot of the motions. I think the NDP lost a lot of political capital and alienated a lot of Canadians.

    The fall session should be interesting though. Gun control, softwood lumber, marriage, name calling over Afghanistan among others. Then a spring budget and most likely an election. I'm sure it will get quite inflammatory.
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    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • surferdude wrote:
    I agree with you regarding where the NDP should focus. I think the Conservatives and Liberals should be doing the same. I thought the NDP and Liberal parties are way to focused on Foreign Affairs and are forgetting about the people they want to represent.

    Saying things like Canada should only enter winnable wars doesn't make the NDP out to be big defenders of human rights. I don't think calling the Canadian military terrorists was much of a help. What confused me was Layton's laissez-faire attitude regarding it all, then backing a lot of the motions. I think the NDP lost a lot of political capital and alienated a lot of Canadians.

    The fall session should be interesting though. Gun control, softwood lumber, marriage, name calling over Afghanistan among others. Then a spring budget and most likely an election. I'm sure it will get quite inflammatory.

    I have a feeling the marriage issue will be thrown to the back burner, I believe it was a ploy by the party to suck in the relgious right....just a guess....

    Yeah I have been spending my lunch hours watching Parliament and it is getting quite interesting....lots of blame being chucked around....seems that gun control is currently at the fore front with everyside seeming to be clueless on the subject....Harper one minute talks about continueing registering firearms then he talks abotu how the system sucks....I really do not know what his plan is...all the other parties seem to be in support of the current system...and Afganistan will get more attention as causalties increase (unfortunatley)...

    To add-in for every person that sways their view from the NDP is another vote gained for the Liberals (well for the most part).....I predicted the NDP to loss their "gains" next election as I felt many of those voting for them wanted to punish the Liberals for a term then go back once things settled out....
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