Do you believe in satan?

brainofPJ
brainofPJ Posts: 2,361
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
even if your thought of him is a red creature with a pitch fork torturing people. do you?


Esther's here and she's sick?

hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
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  • wolfamongwolves
    wolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    no. the notion of satan is a mythological personification to account for "evil" in the world. every mythological religious tradition uses the same formula. doesn't make him any more of a real being than phoebus apollo as a personification of the sun
    93: Slane
    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
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  • brainofPJ
    brainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    ah, ok


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
  • wolfamongwolves
    wolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    brainofPJ wrote:
    ah, ok
    in what sense "ah, ok"?

    sarcastic or not?
    did i get the right answer? :D
    what?
    93: Slane
    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • brainofPJ
    brainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    in what sense "ah, ok"?

    sarcastic or not?
    did i get the right answer? :D
    what?


    no, im' sorry.

    didn't mean it that way. ok, like i understand where you are coming from :)


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
  • wolfamongwolves
    wolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    oh.
    that's nice. i like being agreed with. or at least understood
    93: Slane
    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    brainofPJ wrote:
    even if your thought of him is a red creature with a pitch fork torturing people. do you?


    After the devil's advocate I can't help but see Al Pacino.:D And of course god is Alanis Morisette.;)
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
    I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • wolfamongwolves
    wolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    karma defect wrote:
    After the devil's advocate I can't help but see Al Pacino.:D
    almost feasible
    karma defect wrote:
    And of course god is Alanis Morisette.;)
    thank god i'm an atheist






    sorry. i'm really, really sorry
    93: Slane
    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • dharma69
    dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    brainofPJ wrote:
    even if your thought of him is a red creature with a pitch fork torturing people. do you?
    The only Satan that I believe in is the one in South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut. He was hot. A bit gay but the hottest Satan there is.

    All other incarnations of the red one are just figments of the imagination and religion in general.

    It's a measure of comfort to have "something" to identify the evil with, I guess. Makes distinguishing the good and the bad that much easier. But I'm not aligned with that symbol, so my answer is no.
    "I'm here to see Pearl Jam."- Bono

    ...signed...the token black Pearl Jam fan.

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  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    almost feasible

    Well he is a hell of an actor.:D
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    thank god i'm an atheist

    sorry. i'm really, really sorry


    What? Sorry for not liking her or sorry for being an atheist?;)
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
    I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • wolfamongwolves
    wolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    karma defect wrote:
    What? Sorry for not liking her or sorry for being an atheist?;)

    for such a bad joke.

    i'd never be sorry for loathing moose
    93: Slane
    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • crislx
    crislx Posts: 85
    Of course I do. Everytime I pay taxes I know he's around...

    My grandfather had this religious book with an old drawing of hell. It was an abyss with flying demonic creatures, shredding sinners as they fell. The outcasts cried in agony, bellow.
    I really thought I would end up there if I missed sunday school, so I took no risks.
    But it was a fascinating picture. There was pain, agony, horror, perversion. I would snatch that book just to have a good look at it. :D
  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    for such a bad joke.

    i'd never be sorry for loathing moose


    Moose?

    I thought it was quite amusing.
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
    I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    crislx wrote:
    Of course I do. Everytime I pay taxes I know he's around...

    My grandfather had this religious book with an old drawing of hell. It was an abyss with flying demonic creatures, shredding sinners as they fell. The outcasts cried in agony, bellow.
    I really thought I would end up there if I missed sunday school, so I took no risks.
    But it was a fascinating picture. There was pain, agony, horror, perversion. I would snatch that book just to have a good look at it. :D


    So that is why people still go to church.;)
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
    I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • wolfamongwolves
    wolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    karma defect wrote:
    Moose?

    I thought it was quite amusing.

    What? "Dogma"? I thought so too. But I havent seen it in a long time.
    Moose was Alanis' nickname in a 1980s Canadian kids' sketch show called "You Can't Do That on Television". I had a crush on her then. I hate myself for that now....
    93: Slane
    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • crislx
    crislx Posts: 85
    karma defect wrote:
    So that is why people still go to church.;)

    You bet it is! :D
    As an ex-catholic I can assure you: people loooooove the dark side! They love to pry, to have that Hell preview, as voyeurs. Fear and guilt are the best means of social control. Hell gives people the sense of a final divine Supreme Court justice, when the earthly one failed. And it makes them feel good about themselves because they will NEVER (hehe...) be part of that "sinner fallen from grace" club.
    And kids love horror stories....
    ... so, it works.
  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    What? "Dogma"? I thought so too. But I havent seen it in a long time.
    Moose was Alanis' nickname in a 1980s Canadian kids' sketch show called "You Can't Do That on Television". I had a crush on her then. I hate myself for that now....


    You shouldn't beat yourself up over it. I had a crush on my ex and she turned out a bitch.:D What the fuck am I talking about that was like 9 years ago.:p Anyway I meant the joke, but Dogma was amusing to.;)
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
    I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    crislx wrote:
    You bet it is! :D
    As an ex-catholic I can assure you: people loooooove the dark side! They love to pry, to have that Hell preview, as voyeurs. Fear and guilt are the best means of social control. Hell gives people the sense of a final divine Supreme Court justice, when the earthly one failed. And it makes them feel good about themselves because they will NEVER (hehe...) be part of that "sinner fallen from grace" club.
    And kids love horror stories....
    ... so, it works.


    Join me on the dark side Luke. :D You made me think of Darth vader.

    Is there a "sinner fallen from grace" club? I must join that.:)
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
    I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • crislx
    crislx Posts: 85
    karma defect wrote:
    Is there a "sinner fallen from grace" club? I must join that.:)

    Nah!... Don't. Beer's lausy down there. :D
  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    crislx wrote:
    Nah!... Don't. Beer's lausy down there.


    Hahahaha, good thing I don't drink beer than.:D
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
    I took it upon me to be yours, Timmy,
    I’ll lead your angels and demons at play tonight......»
  • brain of c
    brain of c Posts: 5,213
    wwsd?
    d'oh!!!!!!

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