AP: Obama aunt from Kenya living in US illegally

binauralsoundsbinauralsounds Posts: 1,357
edited November 2008 in A Moving Train
Wow, just wow...
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D945TEE01&show_article=1

WASHINGTON (AP) - Barack Obama's aunt, a Kenyan woman who has been quietly living in public housing in Boston, is in the United States illegally after an immigration judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, The Associated Press has learned.

Yet contributed to campain.. oh boy
http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=name&lname=Onyango&fname=Zeituni&search=Search
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  • fugawzifugawzi Posts: 879
    Should point out the article says it's his half aunt:
    Article wrote:
    Onyango, who has lived quietly in public housing in South Boston for five years, was Obama's half aunt on his father's side.

    What's a half Aunt? How is someone your half Aunt? I can't picture the family tree in my head. Also, is it saying she didn't break any laws?
    Article wrote:
    Onyango's refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, non-criminal violation of U.S. immigration law, meaning such cases are handled outside the criminal court system.
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    fugawzi wrote:
    Should point out the article says it's his half aunt:



    What's a half Aunt? How is someone your half Aunt? I can't picture the family tree in my head.
    Half sister of obama's father maybe?

    Onyango's refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, non-criminal violation of U.S. immigration law, meaning such cases are handled outside the criminal court system. Estimates vary, but many experts believe there are more than 10 million such immigrants in the United States......

    Hardly earth shattering news :rolleyes:
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    The left is so full of excuses and explanations for Obama's behavior, yet so willing to not allow even a fraction of that same leeway to McCain and especially Palin.

    I really can not understand how Obama got this far without major scrutiny of all of the things he's done and all of the associations he has that should raise a lot of concerns.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Excuses for Obamas behaviour? So he's responsible for a half aunt he may not have even met????? Get a grip. Now if Obama was living here illegally, well that's another story...

    oh wait...

    :rolleyes:
  • Every politician is corrupt.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    how is he responsible for his half aunt's behaviour exactly?

    I was speaking in generalities. I really think Obama has gotten far less scrutiny than other candidates do. And I'm talking both Dem and Republican. I'm not sure why, but I think if he'd gotten the same media scrutiny that we're used to with other candidates, he wouldn't have gotten nearly this far in the Presidential race.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1 wrote:
    The left is so full of excuses and explanations for Obama's behavior, yet so willing to not allow even a fraction of that same leeway to McCain and especially Palin.

    I really can not understand how Obama got this far without major scrutiny of all of the things he's done and all of the associations he has that should raise a lot of concerns.

    Are you kidding me?
    Obama is then responsible for his half aunt???? How is his half aunt on his dad's side of the family who he doesnt really have a relationship with translate into Obama's behavior??? Give me a break! :rolleyes:

    Palin is a disgrace, and there isn't anything scarier that Palin being so close to becoming President if that old man dies all of a sudden.
    "Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
  • Every politician is corrupt.


    Please humor me and explain how this translates to Obama being corrupt....
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  • prytojprytoj Posts: 536
    i see it differently. i think he has gotten plenty of scrutiny, but there are those out there that believe there is more to the story...that there are these great unknowns about obama. i just don't think there are.

    oh yeah? like in print media?
    http://www.journalism.org/node/13439

    how about cable news?
    http://www.journalism.org/node/13437

    but to be fair, the networks have been "more balanced"
    http://www.journalism.org/node/13438

    even hard lefties have no real idea who Obama is and have admitted as much.

    I'm sure that there would be more scrutiny of the democratic candidates if they were more available to take tough questions, but Obama hasn't had a presser in over a month (unless you count softballers like Maddow and Stewart of the daily show) and Biden is flat out under wraps.

    While Obama's informercial war airing, McCain had an interview with Larry King on CNN. More Obama fluff.
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    prytoj wrote:
    McCain had an interview with Larry King on CNN.

    Now THERE'S a tough interview.
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    Conservatives seem to be very irritated I've noticed. They may think that Obama's getting an easy pass; maybe, maybe not. The point is that the usual stuff is just not working this year. Look at how hard the Drudges and posts like the OP made are trying to make this into a game-changing story, and they've tried to do it with a dozen different stories over the past week, and it just isn't working this time. I can imagine how that would be frustrating.
  • prytojprytoj Posts: 536
    digster wrote:
    Now THERE'S a tough interview.

    True, but at least it wasn't an overproduced puff piece.

    Digster is right in that McCain's campaign has not been run well. No disputing that. If it had, and if the media outside of Fox had any sense of fairness, this race would be over already.
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    prytoj wrote:
    If it had, and if the media outside of Fox had any sense of fairness...

    Oh, come on, man. How can I take someone seriously who equates Fox with 'fairness?'
  • prytojprytoj Posts: 536
    You were not asked to take my word for it, review the study by the center for excellence in journalism, which is posted in this thread.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,066
    Please humor me and explain how this translates to Obama being corrupt....

    How'd he get his house for $200k less than what it was worth? Your side bashes McCain for buying 7 houses legally, but won't say a word about Obama getting a house for $200k less than it was worth, with the help of a CRIMINAL SLUMLORD.

    Perfect example of the media going easy on Obama. Anyway, Obama made $4 million last year, and only gave $240,000 to charity. That would mean that he is stockpiling wealth just like McCain, except that he puts the money elsewhere than houses.

    You think if McCain got a bargain on a house from an oil exec, that Olbermann and Maddow wouldn't be talking about it for weeks?
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    I think the lengths to connect Obama with some sort of impropriety are so laughable at this point that the election is already over. Back to the drawing board for 2012 neoCONS.
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    prytoj wrote:
    You were not asked to take my word for it, review the study by the center for excellence in journalism, which is posted in this thread.

    I've read it, thank you. And it backs me up; "in many ways, the data offer hard evidence to confirm the notion that, at least when it comes to politics, MSNBC is now a counterweight, or leftward leaning alternative, to the tone of coverage seen on another cable channel, Fox."

    Anyone who thinks Fox is 'fair and balanced' is as out of their gourd as someone who thinks that MSNBC's main programs have no discernible liberal bias. So, yeah, I stand by what I said.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,066
    digster wrote:
    Conservatives seem to be very irritated I've noticed. They may think that Obama's getting an easy pass; maybe, maybe not. The point is that the usual stuff is just not working this year. Look at how hard the Drudges and posts like the OP made are trying to make this into a game-changing story, and they've tried to do it with a dozen different stories over the past week, and it just isn't working this time. I can imagine how that would be frustrating.

    Hmmn....but it is working for the other side. You don't seem to mind that this time around. Kind of hypocritical.
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    Hmmn....but it is working for the other side. You don't seem to mind that this time around. Kind of hypocritical.

    You're right; you've got me. Although I do get pissed off about the shit that gets thrown at McCain, I get less pissed off when the shitty campaign tactics are used towards the candidate I do not support as opposed to the one I do. I am a hypocrite in that regard, as is everyone else here, including you.
  • prytojprytoj Posts: 536
    digster wrote:
    I've read it, thank you. And it backs me up; "in many ways, the data offer hard evidence to confirm the notion that, at least when it comes to politics, MSNBC is now a counterweight, or leftward leaning alternative, to the tone of coverage seen on another cable channel, Fox."

    Anyone who thinks Fox is 'fair and balanced' is as out of their gourd as someone who thinks that MSNBC's main programs have no discernible liberal bias. So, yeah, I stand by what I said.

    Calling MSNBC a counterweight to right-leaning Fox is like calling a 380 pound man "pleasantly plump." (no offense to the gravity-challenged) Matthews, Maddow, and Olberman are not spin artists, they are liars. I did see one woman anchor last night on MSNBC who was pretty fair, though, which was good to see.

    I think much of the "bias" from Fox comes from Hannity, whom I equally despise. I don't really love O'reilly either, but he has been VERY FAIR to the candidates as far as I can see.
  • DixieNDixieN Posts: 351
    Who knows why the 1/2 aunt is living in this country illegally. So are 10 million other people in her situation. Unless Obama is somehow knowingly personally, directly involved in his aunt's illegal stay in the US, it's a non-issue. What is he? A patriarch that tells his elderly auntie what she ought to do by the minute? I don't think so. He might be slightly busier than that.

    My own mom was an immigrant to the US. My parents, US citizen father, and she met and married in a foreign country. He came back to the states to continue his military career. It is not clear to me exactly at what point it was that my mother actually became a US citizen, as they traveled the world extensively due to his career and spent more than a decade outside the US serving the US government. At some point, she became legal. Could she have spent some time as an "illegal"? I guess it's possible. I really don't know.

    Whatever. To me, the whole thing seems like a big nothing. Is the aunt illegal? If so, let her deal with it. I'm sure Obama's not in charge of her. He said himself that whatever the laws are should be applied to her just like anyone else. Everyone has family members who do stupid things. I have some control over my immediate family members--no daughter of mine was underage, unmarried and pregnant--but I can't control what my relatives do. Neither can Obama.

    If this aunt the best thing the Republicans have as an "October" surprise, no wonder Halloweens tend to be boring in their neighborhoods. Try again.
  • NeilJamNeilJam Posts: 1,191
    Looks like the Republicans needed another straw to grasp at since the State Department declared Obama's birth certificate is valid.
  • prytoj wrote:
    Matthews, Maddow, and Olberman are not spin artists, they are liars. I did see one woman anchor last night on MSNBC who was pretty fair, though, which was good to see.

    They don't lie, they cherry-pick, just like Hannity and O'Reilly (and the rest of Fox News...lol). They are the same. Stop kidding yourself.
  • If Obama should be held responsible for his Aunt's actions, then I guess I should be held responsible for my older brother's drug/alcohol abuse, gambling habits, status as a deadbeat dad to some 4 or 5 kids and the rest of his generally losery behavior.

    Sorry about that, guys. I'll try to be a better person.

    :D
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    I vote this as stupidest thread of the day......so far
  • I think it's time for the Repubs to admit that there may not be anything more to the Jeremiah Wright or Bill Ayers story... that they may have only been cursory acquaintances... That Obama never sat in the basement of a Chicago church with Wright and espoused the virtues of killing white babies, or sat in a hut with Bill Ayers in the woods somewhere and thought about the benefits of bombing the capitol...

    Because really, when you are implying "something deeper" that could come out with these acquaintances, that's what you're thinking must be there, or thinking might be hidden somewhere....

    For some reason, you can't just admit that this may be a decent family man who has crossed paths with some shady folks (haven't we all) in his many years of community service... that may be all there is to it.... if there was something deeper it would have come out by now...
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