North Korean General: 'War Is Inevitable'

binauralsounds

Oct. 19, 2006 — If President Bush continues to ask North Korea to "kneel," war "will be inevitable,"

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2585531

Funny how he leaves out the U.N. Wasn't it unanimous?? LOL

SoonForgotten2

Page 2 of the article wrote:

"He keeps talking about North Korea as the 'axis of evil,' as an outpost of tyranny, as an unacceptable government that makes its own people hungry," he said.

"We would ask him please to stop making these bad comments on our nation, and I'm speaking not just for myself but for all people in this country."

Well, the axis of evil comment was a pretty boneheaded thing, as everyone knows, but c'mon- children have to eat grass to survive during the North Korean winters. I think if he was really speaking for the people of his country he'd be saying "Please send us food!!"

Earthgirl

I'm a little worried about North Korea and what could happen.

Vedderlution_Baby

I heard someone say today

"Well, now Bush has finally found someone who's as fucking crazy as him. They're both gonna try to be the bully and both are going to think they're succedding. And because of that, WE'RE going to get killed"

Ebizzie

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

Well, the axis of evil comment was a pretty boneheaded thing, as everyone knows, but c'mon- children have to eat grass to survive during the North Korean winters. I think if he was really speaking for the people of his country he'd be saying "Please send us food!!"

With all the shit talk spewed forth from Pyongyang prior to any of Bush's talk about an "axis of evil", I find it very difficult to pin any of this mess on the president. I'm no fan of Bush these days, but the bottom line is that we're dealing with a nation in North Korea that suddenly appears to be ready to go down in flames. The rhetoric and actions of that country are closer to veiled cries of desperation than they are any true military threat. KJI wants to make his impression on history, he's working on his legacy right now. That's why we shouldn't be surprised when he actually does start a nuclear war. The problem is that it won't be much of a war when he lobs a single warhead to the South and moments later finds his entire nation obliterated by any number of countries who are currently warning him against his actions.

cincybearcat

I would have liked to hear him say 'Inevitable'

enharmonic

I don't think that there's a good ending to this one.

ThumbingMyWay32

cincybearcat wrote:

I would have liked to hear him say 'Inevitable'

I'm...... so... wonewyyyy.... soo.. wonewyyyy....


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lol good flick..


Come on people. Does anyone believe those little guys marching through Pyonyang mount any type of threat. They're cardboard cutouts prepared to intimidate neighboring countries and bolster the false image of a dictator.

Saddam had a million men........ 100 hours?

Anyone wanna place bets on KJI's paper battalions? I give the 34,000 GIs already there 3:1 straight up.

But please don't fret. War between the U.S. and NK, I assure you, will never happen. The Red Chinese want to dominate sub-Asia and KJI won't get in the way of that.

SundaySilence

As with many nations whose policies don't please the US, we have failed to cultivate a working diplomatic relationship with N Korea. But diplomatic harmony doesn't seem to have been a goal in the first place. Our plan has been to rattle the saber and threaten isolation sanctions. History would demonstrate that neither plan discourages nations from the development of nuclear power. But we would have to learn from history to know this and it seems we don't.

Its hard to tell whether our current foreign policy makers are ignorant of history. Saber rattlers such as Rummy have convinced the chief executive that a tough posture will influence the miscreant nations to toe the line. That this outcome isn't being achieved doesn't seem to discourage their decision making process. The prevailing attitude seems to be that since we are the biggest kid on the block, we do not have to be understanding of the problems of the "weaker" kids who don't pay us the required level of homage.

Such an attitude does not make for a safe neighborhood. We are seen by many as a bully whose needs include kicking butt to remind everyone of our might. Such bullying tactics have encouraged the weak kids to strengthen their bodies and their skills. Meanwhile the bully is tiring himself expending resources by picking meaningless fights in order to show how tough he is. Not only does a bully spend all his time protecting his turf, his obnoxious behavior spurs others into finding a way to take him down, thereby continually increasing the odds. Today it is N Korea who has decided to call the bully's bluff. If the lessons of history are not heeded, there may soon be others. And with no diplomatic skills to ease the tension, the bully has to keep on swinging. Right up to the bitter end.

kenny olav

If we actually have a war with North Korea, I'm not exactly sure what I'm going to do, but I am going to give up all attempts at using reason, because reason, at that point, will surely have been deemed antiquated. My life, therefore, will become a series of absurd non-sequitors, which is only slightly different from how it is now.

Ebizzie

SundaySilence wrote:

As with many nations whose policies don't please the US, we have failed to cultivate a working diplomatic relationship with N Korea. But diplomatic harmony doesn't seem to have been a goal in the first place. Our plan has been to rattle the saber and threaten isolation sanctions. History would demonstrate that neither plan discourages nations from the development of nuclear power. But we would have to learn from history to know this and it seems we don't.

Its hard to tell whether our current foreign policy makers are ignorant of history. Saber rattlers such as Rummy have convinced the chief executive that a tough posture will influence the miscreant nations to toe the line. That this outcome isn't being achieved doesn't seem to discourage their decision making process. The prevailing attitude seems to be that since we are the biggest kid on the block, we do not have to be understanding of the problems of the "weaker" kids who don't pay us the required level of homage.

Such an attitude does not make for a safe neighborhood. We are seen by many as a bully whose needs include kicking butt to remind everyone of our might. Such bullying tactics have encouraged the weak kids to strengthen their bodies and their skills. Meanwhile the bully is tiring himself expending resources by picking meaningless fights in order to show how tough he is. Not only does a bully spend all his time protecting his turf, his obnoxious behavior spurs others into finding a way to take him down, thereby continually increasing the odds. Today it is N Korea who has decided to call the bully's bluff. If the lessons of history are not heeded, there may soon be others. And with no diplomatic skills to ease the tension, the bully has to keep on swinging. Right up to the bitter end.

How does this have anything to do with whether we're friends with the DPRK or not? Our non-relationship with that nation started long before GW came into office, as did KJI's nuclear ambitions.

That was a very well written post, it's unfortunate its fire is misdirected and baseless.

LedZepFan

I dunno...if NK makes a move the whole fucking UN is gonna tear that place apart

SundaySilence

Ebizzie wrote:

How does this have anything to do with whether we're friends with the DPRK or not? Our non-relationship with that nation started long before GW came into office, as did KJI's nuclear ambitions.

That was a very well written post, it's unfortunate its fire is misdirected and baseless.

The tough posture with N Korea, and Iran, is encouraging them to pursue nuclear power more quickly. If Saddam had actually had nuclear weapons we would have never invaded Iraq. Pitiful to ponder that we, the typical Iraqi, and the world may have been better off if the butcher of baghdad had a nuclear arsenal. Then scores (even hundreds) of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians and the equivalent of the world trade centers full of US soldiers, instead of being dead, would be with their families.

Ebizzie

SundaySilence wrote:

The tough posture with N Korea, and Iran, is encouraging them to pursue nuclear power more quickly. If Saddam had actually had nuclear weapons we would have never invaded Iraq. Pitiful to ponder that we, the typical Iraqi, and the world may have been better off if the butcher of baghdad had a nuclear arsenal. Then scores (even hundreds) of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians and the equivalent of the world trade centers full of US soldiers, instead of being dead, would be with their families.

proliferation for peace....has a nice ring to it.


Again, Kim Jong Il began efforts to develop nuclear weapons before this administration took office. I wouldn't label Clinton's administration as being "sabre-rattlers". KJI wanted nukes with or without a diplomatic relationship with the US. He's a fucking nutball.

dg1979us

NK isnt a threat to us. If they are a threat to anybody it is the Asian countries, and China would stomp the shit out of them if it gets to the point that NK is disrupting the region through threats of war. I think we need to sit back and let the Asian countries deal with NK on both a diplomatic, and if for some reason needed, military level.

DOSW

What makes me uneasy is the sight of the thousands and thousands of North Koreans celebrating a successful nuclear test. The kind of blind leadership the citizens have toward their insane dictator is ridiculous. It really makes me appreciate that Americans have the balls to stand up to their leadership and call them on their BS.

If there is any good aspect to this conflict, it's the fact that China and the United States (not to mention almost the entire world) are on the same side. And that is a REALLY big plus.