Swiss attack on Israeli policy

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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    I was talking about Iran, and there are other methods of fighting for your freedom instead of killing innocent civilians.
    Tell that to freedom fighters throughout history, whether under Nazi Occupation, French Occupation, British Occupation, etc... tell that to the Americans who founded this country by fighting a war using guerrilla tactics. tell that to any oppressed people who have no other means of resistance at their disposal as you suggest.
    How is it that American troops kill Iraqi civilians and people are all over it, but when a Palestine or any terrorist kills civilians its ok? Innocent civilians are the same no matter where they are from or what kind of social status they have. It should not be tolerated, nor supported, no matter what side you are for.
    comparing American troops to Palestinians? this is both laughable and troubling.
    Didn't Iran call for the destruction of Israel? Do you support that?
    No. They called for the destruction of an oppressive Zionist regime. Yes, I support that.
  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    So this whole argument from one of the posters seems to be that because Switzerland signed a big energy deal with Iran its condemnation of Israel is baseless? or what exactly?
  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    Wow, didn't realize I would be so popular in this thread......


    Two wrongs don't make a right. I don't for one minute condone anything Israel has done, but you're naive to think Iran has instigated or had a part in this.


    For a bunch of "anti-war" peace loving individuals as yourselves...your pretty blood thirsty over Israel’s removal. Kind of hypocritical. Its not going to happen in our life time or any time soon, people are going to learn how to get a long and its not 100% Israel’s fault...nor is it 100% Palestine’s.

    So lets refine your stance on this conflict.....its ok as long as civilians and military from large super powers like the US or Israel die, but not the oppressed people they are fighting?

    I have to ask...do some of you secretly long for US service members to get killed in Iraq/Afghanistan or wish for a school bus of Israel children to be attacked by Hamas? I don't know about you, but I really don't want to see anyone get killed....


    Once again....its not all black and white....I know some of you can see this.
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  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    NoK wrote:
    So this whole argument from one of the posters seems to be that because Switzerland signed a big energy deal with Iran its condemnation of Israel is baseless? or what exactly?

    Yep, Switzerland doesn't want to lose their money when us or Israel conducts air strikes in the near future.
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  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    Yep, Switzerland doesn't want to lose their money when us or Israel conducts air strikes in the near future.

    You seem to have Palestinians and Iranians confused.
  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    NoK wrote:
    You seem to have Palestinians and Iranians confused.

    Nope....Israel did it to Iraq in 1982 I believe and they will do it again in Iran.....with Obama's permission of course.
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  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    Nope....Israel did it to Iraq in 1982 I believe and they will do it again in Iran.....with Obama's permission of course.

    What does bombing Iran have to do with the actions taken by Israel against Palestinians?

    Did the war in Iraq affect what Israel is doing to Palestinians? I do not see how you are linking them. Israelis are violating the Geneva conventions which the Swiss are responsible for and its about time they called them out.
  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    MrBrian wrote:
    . Earlier this year, Israel summoned Swiss Ambassador Walter Haffner to its Foreign Ministry offices in Jerusalem to protest against Switzerland's signing of a multi-billion dollar energy deal with Iran.

    I'm still talking about this part....conflict of interests..
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  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    I'm still talking about this part....

    The issue of the sanctions was an addition by MrBrian and not part of the article. The article is about Switzerland condemning Israel for its actions against Palestinians.

    Regarding the sanctions against Iran, I dont see how someone from USA can call out the Swiss for not agreeing with sanctions against Iran. Do you know how many resolutions your country has vetoed in favour of Israel? Its in the hundreds. Not to mention if the sanctions escalate are you willing to see approximately one million civilians die as what happened in Iraq?

    Keep in mind all the reports by the International Atomic Energy Agency that the Iranians have halted any suspicious activities a while ago. It seems their nuclear activities are more open than the Israelis. I don't see any sanctions against Israel or its nuclear arsenal.
  • I'm still talking about this part....conflict of interests..


    of what? How does an energy deal w/ Iran constitute a conflict of interest towards what they say in relation to the Israeli/Palestine conflict??

    For that matter isn't ALL our support and words a conflict of interest?
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

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    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
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  • NoK wrote:
    The issue of the sanctions was an addition by MrBrian and not part of the article. The article is about Switzerland condemning Israel for its actions against Palestinians.

    Regarding the sanctions against Iran, I dont see how someone from USA can call out the Swiss for not agreeing with sanctions against Iran. Do you know how many resolutions your country has vetoed in favour of Israel? Its in the hundreds. Not to mention if the sanctions escalate are you willing to see approximately one million civilians die as what happened in Iraq?

    Keep in mind all the reports by the International Atomic Energy Agency that the Iranians have halted any suspicious activities a while ago. It seems their nuclear activities are more open than the Israelis. I don't see any sanctions against Israel or its nuclear arsenal.


    The funny thing is up until 2000 or so Dick Cheney lobbyied to have sanctions removed from Iran b/c Halliburton had their own energy deal w/ them including selling them parts that could be used to make nukes.
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    The funny thing is up until 2000 or so Dick Cheney lobbyied to have sanctions removed from Iran b/c Halliburton had their own energy deal w/ them including selling them parts that could be used to make nukes.

    Hypocrisy at its finest. This whole "sactions" thing escalated when the Iranians threatened to use Euros in their oil dealings instead of the US $. Reminds me of a neighbouring country of theirs. I forget the name.