Obama effigy found hanging from tree

MrBrian

Obama effigy found hanging from tree at Christian college in Oregon


By Mary Hudetz, The Associated Press

NEWBERG, Ore. - Officials of a small Christian university say a life-size cardboard reproduction of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was hung from a tree on the campus, an act with racial undertones that outraged students and school leaders alike.


George Fox University President Robin Baker said a custodian discovered the effigy early Tuesday and removed it. University spokesman Rob Felton said Wednesday that the commercially produced reproduction had been suspended from the branch of a tree with fishing line around the neck.


Taped to the cardboard cutout of the black senator from Illinois was a message targeting participants in Act Six, a scholarship program geared toward increasing the number of minority and low-income students at several Christian colleges, mostly in the Northwest.


The message read, "Act Six reject."

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080924/world/obama_effigy

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keeponrockin

I can't believe behaviour like this still happens.

Disgusting.

JaneNY

If it was college students that did that they should be expelled. This makes me so sick.

g under p

....And some say race is NOT a factor in this race.

Peace

MrBrian

JaneNY wrote:

If it was college students that did that they should be expelled. This makes me so sick.

Would that really solve anything?...

know1

It's a shame that kind of thing happens, but nowadays you can't even trust whether it was planted by the opposition or the home team.

know1

JaneNY wrote:

If it was college students that did that they should be expelled. This makes me so sick.

So much for freedom of speech. You can't just allow speech that only you agree with.

sponger

know1 wrote:

So much for freedom of speech. You can't just allow speech that only you agree with.

You're joking, right? You really think racial symbolism should be protected under the first amendment?

Anon

know1 wrote:

So much for freedom of speech. You can't just allow speech that only you agree with.

I can't fathom anyone thinking like you do. Honestly. I got nothing.

QuestionAuthority

know1 wrote:

So much for freedom of speech. You can't just allow speech that only you agree with.

Dude.. you way crossed the line here. I will not even lower myself to comment any further on this little bit of spewing garbage.

Collin

know1 wrote:

So much for freedom of speech. You can't just allow speech that only you agree with.

Do you feel that freedom of speech should mean freedom from consequences? Do you think students can say or do whatever they want and the institution should just accept it because of the first amendment?

What if it had been a effigy of a teacher at the school? It's almost a death threat.

I don't know how "speech" is determined in the US. But if hanging an effigy from a tree with the message stop helping out minorities is "speech" than what can't be interpreted as free speech?

dunkman

Collin wrote:

Do you feel that freedom of speech should mean freedom from consequences? Do you think students can say or do whatever they want and the institution should just accept it because of the first amendment?

What if it had been a effigy of a teacher at the school? It's almost a death threat.

I don't know how "speech" is determined in the US. But if hanging an effigy from a tree with the message stop helping out minorities is "speech" than what can't be interpreted as free speech?

but wait... dont rail on him.. after all Freedom of Speech is one of the 'best things about your country' answers on that other thread on the MT.

mind you, considering it has the worlds greatest and bestest freedoms (according to many)... then how can its rank be 48th in the world by RWB on its Worldwide Press Freedom Index? surely it should be no. 1!!!

SoonForgotten2

know1 wrote:

It's a shame that kind of thing happens, but nowadays you can't even trust whether it was planted by the opposition or the home team.

I thought this was a pretty stupid response...

know1 wrote:

So much for freedom of speech. You can't just allow speech that only you agree with.

...then you go and say this, which gives stupidity a whole new meaning. Well done.

know1

I'm not condoning the effigy, but it's amazing how many people will whine and complain for free speech or other freedoms or actions that supposedly don't affect anybody else, yet when you use their same talking points back to them they get all bent out of shape.

Like I said, apparently actions or speech are only permissable if you agree with them to this bunch.

South of Seattle

This school really isn't even that Christian. Although it is located near the few "Red" parts of Oregon.

inmytree

know1 wrote:

I'm not condoning the effigy, but it's amazing how many people will whine and complain for free speech or other freedoms or actions that supposedly don't affect anybody else, yet when you use their same talking points back to them they get all bent out of shape.

Like I said, apparently actions or speech are only permissable if you agree with them to this bunch.

I guess if I come to your house and take a shit on your front porch you'd be supportive of such action...I'm just practicing freedom of action and free speech...right..?

South of Seattle

inmytree wrote:

I guess if I come to your house and take a shit on your front porch you'd be supportive of such action...I'm just practicing freedom of action and free speech...right..?

Well only if you said "Is that corn?" after you left your gift.

Open

know1 wrote:

I'm not condoning the effigy, but it's amazing how many people will whine and complain for free speech or other freedoms or actions that supposedly don't affect anybody else, yet when you use their same talking points back to them they get all bent out of shape.

Like I said, apparently actions or speech are only permissable if you agree with them to this bunch.

This effects EVERYONE, your responses suggest that it doesnt effect you, that is the problem.

digster

I don't see how free speech applies here...it's a private college. They have the right to disallow racist rhetoric on their campus.

If they were charged with a crime, it'd probably be another story.

cincybearcat

know1 wrote:

I'm not condoning the effigy, but it's amazing how many people will whine and complain for free speech or other freedoms or actions that supposedly don't affect anybody else, yet when you use their same talking points back to them they get all bent out of shape.

Like I said, apparently actions or speech are only permissable if you agree with them to this bunch.

I don't think free speech applies when you are inciting violence. Unless of course you're a rockstar on stage, then you can do what you want and it shoudl be protected.

know1

Open wrote:

This effects EVERYONE, your responses suggest that it doesnt effect you, that is the problem.

I know it does. If you read what I wrote more closely, you'll see that I used the word "supposedly" because in my opinion everything we do affects someone else, yet there are people who will claim that certain things that I oppose - like abortion for instance - don't.