Minn. lawmaker 1st Muslim in Congress

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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Great news!

    reborncareerist wrote:
    Acrtually, I personally loathe the Muslim religion. That being said, like Leo mentioned, Muslims as a whole are demonized, and the best cure for that problem is participation in North American/european political systems. Muslims can only truly become part of the community if they are able to participate fully in it.

    Another cure for that problem is education, Muslims can only truly become part of the community if the community accepts them, which also comes down to education. Tell me, please, how much do you know about Islam, what exactly is it that made you loathe that religion?
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    MrBrian wrote:
    Giving charity, fasting, taking care of human life, repsecting women, doing good, education, This is what true islam teaches, how can you loathe it?

    Now I understand that you may have dislike of some or many muslims, but take a look at Islam and I think maybe you will change your view on it.

    Correction ... You're right, its not the doctrine itself I hate, because in its basic form, it is benign and not that different from my own basic values.

    What I hate is not the people per se .... I hate what many people do with these doctrines. Respecting women may be a part of "official" Muslim doctrine, but holy shit ... Look at all these nations and how they actually treat women. And homosexuals, for that matter ... What I hate are versions of the doctrine that are warped, I guess is a better way to put it.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Collin wrote:
    Great news!




    Another cure for that problem is education, Muslims can only truly become part of the community if the community accepts them, which also comes down to education. Tell me, please, how much do you know about Islam, what exactly is it that made you loathe that religion?

    See my response to Mr.Brian. I was careful to say that I loathe the religious doctrine itself, not the people, not Arabs (just waiting for some limpdick remark about how racist I am ... I said the RELIGION) ... I have some friends who are Muslims, some of the nicest people I've ever met are Muslims. But nevertheless, I still feel that the way many people practice Islam is just not my cup of tea, and this is after getting "educated" about the subject. I deliberately left mention of it out before, but for the record, I feel the same way about some forms of Christianity. This doesn't mean I think that Islam should be banned, or that Muslims have no place on our communities. There are political doctrines that I dislike, there are attitudes that I dislike, heck, there are sports teams I dislike (the Habs). In no cases do I think these things should be illegal. I am a huge proponent of religious freedom, assuming the rights of others are respected. I am also a huge proponent of freedom of speech, and intellectual freedom. I dislike how many Muslims interpret their faith, and I should be able to say it. I am sure many of them think Buddhism (pretty close to my spirituality) is a joke, power to them. What's nice is that both sides can say this without fear of being killed or imprisoned.

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