Canada to pay Arar $10.5 million

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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    holding syrian citizenship is grounds for torture?? ... wtf?? ...

    anyways ... if someone offered me 10.8 million to get tortured for 2 years - i'm gonna hafta pass ...
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    beemster wrote:
    I don't believe in dual citizenship, especially from the middle east and other terrorist states.
    ...
    Someone needs their prescriptions refilled, huh?
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  • PintoMusic
    PintoMusic Posts: 73
    sourdough wrote:
    I don't know why Arar still has his Syrian passport, but it is none of any of our business.

    Some countries do not allow you to renounce your citizenship. I believe Syria is one of them.

    Not that it would've made much of a difference. Around that same time, the USA had also deported a woman with sole Canadian woman to India - accusing her of false identity.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Someone needs their prescriptions refilled, huh?
    Then get our prescription filled...
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PintoMusic wrote:
    Some countries do not allow you to renounce your citizenship. I believe Syria is one of them.

    Not that it would've made much of a difference. Around that same time, the USA had also deported a woman with sole Canadian woman to India - accusing her of false identity.
    Then we shouldn,t have granted hin citizenship...period...
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    He deserves every dollar, imo.

    beemster why are you so against dual citizenship?
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Collin wrote:
    He deserves every dollar, imo.

    beemster why are you so against dual citizenship?
    Because, I beleive in loyalty to one country... not to hard to understand... pretty simple actually... as far as the money goes... he doesn't deserve the money from us or the US, Syria tortured him not us and the US deported him to Syria which is there right since he claims syrian citizenship...As far as the US deporting him goes, if they have a choice between sending him back to Syria or us then I'm willing to bet they choose Syria every time. Why doesn't he sue Syria? They tortured him.
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  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    hehe, loyalty to one country...

    glad for him, mistakes was made, acknowledged and reparation is on the way, which is great even if such an horrible story shouldn't happen in the first place...

    Now time for the USA and Syria to pay for their own mistake, this innocent man was tortured for NO reason... other than his origin...
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Is beemster like the Canadian version of psychosinlove or dino?
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    beemster wrote:
    Because, I beleive in loyalty to one country... not to hard to understand... pretty simple actually... as far as the money goes... he doesn't deserve the money from us or the US, Syria tortured him not us and the US deported him to Syria which is there right since he claims syrian citizenship...As far as the US deporting him goes, if they have a choice between sending him back to Syria or us then I'm willing to bet they choose Syria every time. Why doesn't he sue Syria? They tortured him.

    holding syrian citizenship is not grounds for torture ... its like every one who lives in syria should endure what he did?? ... really - are there words here that are appropriate?
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris wrote:
    holding syrian citizenship is not grounds for torture ... its like every one who lives in syria should endure what he did?? ... really - are there words here that are appropriate?

    I never said it was grounds for torture...DUH
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    hehe, loyalty to one country...

    glad for him, mistakes was made, acknowledged and reparation is on the way, which is great even if such an horrible story shouldn't happen in the first place...

    Now time for the USA and Syria to pay for their own mistake, this innocent man was tortured for NO reason... other than his origin...

    He'll never see a dime from the US or Syria...
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  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    beemster wrote:
    He'll never see a dime from the US or Syria...

    you're right, maybe from the USA, if the govt. and attitude change down there...
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    beemster wrote:
    Because, I beleive in loyalty to one country... not to hard to understand... pretty simple actually... as far as the money goes... he doesn't deserve the money from us or the US, Syria tortured him not us and the US deported him to Syria which is there right since he claims syrian citizenship...As far as the US deporting him goes, if they have a choice between sending him back to Syria or us then I'm willing to bet they choose Syria every time. Why doesn't he sue Syria? They tortured him.

    You don't really think for a second that it was really the Syrian gov't who wanted him there and then did the torturing, do you?
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    you're right, maybe from the USA, if the govt. and attitude change down there...


    I don't think the US would pay because their actions where based on the information provided by Canada. Had the Canadian government not deemed him a terrorist and the US still deported him to Syria then they would be liable.
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  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    mammasan wrote:
    I don't think the US would pay because their actions where based on the information provided by Canada. Had the Canadian government not deemed him a terrorist and the US still deported him to Syria then they would be liable.

    Well, if the USA don't feel like they owe him something, then at least they should get him out of the terrorist list and acknowledge the mistake... for the reparation i don't think the guy need any more money from a govt....
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    Well, if the USA don't feel like they owe him something, then at least they should get him out of the terrorist list and acknowledge the mistake... for the reparation i don't think the guy need any more money from a govt....


    An apology would be nice.
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    beemster wrote:
    He only got deported because he maintained his syrian citizenship, if he'd dropped it, they would have deported him back to Canada. Like I said they come from their shit hole countries for a better way of life and when the opportunity arises they do not drop their citizenship. duh.

    this is what you wrote ... sounds to me like you are saying that because he has his syrian citizenship - that he somehow should expect to be tortured ...
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    even flow? wrote:
    You don't really think for a second that it was really the Syrian gov't who wanted him there and then did the torturing, do you?
    Gotta Love paranoid conspiritist.
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris wrote:
    this is what you wrote ... sounds to me like you are saying that because he has his syrian citizenship - that he somehow should expect to be tortured ...
    Coming from Syria he knows how they operate...more so than most...I never said he deserved to be tortured...
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