U.S. troops accused of rape and murder

MrBrian
MrBrian Posts: 2,672
edited July 2006 in A Moving Train
By RYAN LENZ, Associated Press Writer
10 minutes ago

BEIJI, Iraq - The U.S. Army will investigate charges that five American soldiers were involved in the killings of four Iraqi relatives, including a woman who had been raped, military officials said Friday. It's the sixth current inquiry into the alleged slayings of Iraqi civilians by American troops.



Some of the five soldiers also allegedly burned the body of the woman they are accused of assaulting in the March incident, a U.S. military official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060630/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_soldiers_investigated
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    This story is becoming all too familiar....
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Commy wrote:
    This story is becoming all too familiar....
    How could it be familiar? It's an "isolated case"! They're all "isolated cases" of "bad apples" ... there's no systemic problem in our military AT ALL!!!
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    hippiemom wrote:
    How could it be familiar? It's an "isolated case"! They're all "isolated cases" of "bad apples" ... there's no systemic problem in our military AT ALL!!!


    what is the definition of "isolated" again?
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  • PJfanFORlife
    PJfanFORlife Posts: 138
    hippiemom wrote:
    How could it be familiar? It's an "isolated case"! They're all "isolated cases" of "bad apples" ... there's no systemic problem in our military AT ALL!!!
    I saw a documentary on how female soldiers that serve have to go to the restroom in groups in the evenings due to the male soldiers raping and assaulting them. i know this case is different, but it makes me sick that our troops would do that to their own. sorry if this is off topic with the article
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  • ItsEvolutionBaby74
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    The Troops Shouldnt Fukking Be There To Begin With!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    PJfanFORlife wrote:
    I saw a documentary on how female soldiers that serve have to go to the restroom in groups in the evenings due to the male soldiers raping and assaulting them. i know this case is different, but it makes me sick that our troops would do that to their own. sorry if this is off topic with the article
    It would only be off-topic if it were true that there is no systemic problem. Your post is, sadly, quite relevant.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    ItsEvolutionBaby74 wrote:
    The Troops Shouldnt Fukking Be There To Begin With!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Nevertheless, they are in iraq and they are doing these things.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    MrBrian wrote:
    Nevertheless, they are in iraq and they are doing these things.

    Maybe this is a lesson. In dire circumstances people do bad things. Instead of labeling them bad - perhaps we can work to improve circumstances and cooperation. If it is really terrorism we are afraid of, and not dominance and superiority.
  • thankyoupearljam
    thankyoupearljam Posts: 12
    ItsEvolutionBaby74 wrote:
    The Troops Shouldnt Fukking Be There To Begin With!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Couldn't agree more!
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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    ItsEvolutionBaby74 wrote:
    The Troops Shouldnt Fukking Be There To Begin With!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    dam right
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  • Laz
    Laz Posts: 118
    I think we're all agreed that the people who serve in the armed forces come from the American people. If the popular thing in American society is to follow what you feel is right, and if these allegations (b/c nothing's been proven yet) are true, then couldn't one of the alleged rapists merely claim that he was just doing what he felt was right?
  • Nothingman54
    Nothingman54 Posts: 2,251
    They should die for what they have done.
    I'll be back
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    this is clearly proof that we are winning the war! This is merely payback for the infidels sawing off two of God's children's domes. If we continue with this type of activity, we will eventually wear them down...we should actually escalate this type of behavior...not only will it demoralize them, but it will make their political opponents question their motives and long-term goals!
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  • Laz
    Laz Posts: 118
    Nothingman54 wrote:
    They should die for what they have done.

    so in the unlikelihood that the alleged rapist did it because it's what he feels is right, then should he be put to death for following his feelings?
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Laz wrote:
    so in the unlikelihood that the alleged rapist did it because it's what he feels is right, then should he be put to death for following his feelings?


    can you describe a situation where someone could rationalize raping someone as being the right thing?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    this is clearly proof that we are winning the war! This is merely payback for the infidels sawing off two of God's children's domes. If we continue with this type of activity, we will eventually wear them down...we should actually escalate this type of behavior...not only will it demoralize them, but it will make their political opponents question their motives and long-term goals!


    .....yeeeeeaaaaaaaah raping a girl, killing her family, burning her body is a good tactic??

    from the original link mr brian posted

    "At least 14 American troops have been convicted in other cases"

    "He also said the four people killed included three adults and a child, and one of the adults was the woman who allegedly was raped"

    "One of the accused soldiers already has been discharged "

    "The killings appeared to have been a "crime of opportunity," the official said. The soldiers had not been attacked by insurgents but had noticed the woman on previous patrols."
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    El_Kabong wrote:
    .....yeeeeeaaaaaaaah raping a girl, killing her family, burning her body is a good tactic??

    Good, yes...the best...obviously no. We could have had the decency of sawing off her head with a machette on live tv. THAT's obviously the "in" tactic.
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    El_Kabong wrote:
    can you describe a situation where someone could rationalize raping someone as being the right thing?

    Absolutely not.

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  • Laz
    Laz Posts: 118
    El_Kabong wrote:
    can you describe a situation where someone could rationalize raping someone as being the right thing?

    I personally can't but what if someone feels that it's right? Are you going to impose your beliefs (as right as you and I might think they are) on them by putting them to death?
  • stu gee
    stu gee Posts: 1,174
    If this story is true, i hope the guilty soldiers are sent to prison for the rest of their lives or put to death. Fucking disgusting low lifes. Whatever people's view on the war this is barbaric and totally out of order behaviour. They are also making life more difficult for the other soldiers fighting in Iraq as well, as if that was needed.
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