Who's Supplying Iran's Nukes
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Halliburton sold key nuclear-reactor components to a private Iranian oil company called Oriental Oil Kish as recently as 2005, using offshore subsidiaries to circumvent U.S. sanctions, journalist Jason Leopold reported on Globalresearch.ca, the Web site of a Canadian research group. He cited sources intimate with the business dealings of Halliburtonand Kish.
The Story is particulary juicy because Vice President Dick Cheney, who now claims to want to stop Iran from getting nukes, was president of Halliburton in the mid-1990's, at which timehe may have advocated business dealings with Iran, in violation of U.S. law. Leopold contended that the Halliburton-Kish deals have helped Iran become capable of enriching weapons-grade uranium.
Source" Jason Leopold, "Halliburton Secretly Doing Business with Key Member of Iran's Nuclear Team," GlobalResearch.ca, Aug. 5,2005.
The Story is particulary juicy because Vice President Dick Cheney, who now claims to want to stop Iran from getting nukes, was president of Halliburton in the mid-1990's, at which timehe may have advocated business dealings with Iran, in violation of U.S. law. Leopold contended that the Halliburton-Kish deals have helped Iran become capable of enriching weapons-grade uranium.
Source" Jason Leopold, "Halliburton Secretly Doing Business with Key Member of Iran's Nuclear Team," GlobalResearch.ca, Aug. 5,2005.
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Ask Dick how many stocks he was optioned as an executive officer at Haliburton and are currently in his portfolio. Halibuton stock is not doing too bad.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HAL&t=my&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=
Hail, Hail!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton#Dick_Cheney_ties
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/politics/main575356.shtml
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheneys_stock_options_rose_3281_last_1011.html
Cheney continues to received a deferred salary from the company. According to financial disclosure forms, he was paid $205,298 in 2001; $162,392 in 2002; $178,437 in 2003; and $194,852 in 2004.
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yes he does. he meets with them in secret meetings that determine United States energy policy, They are awarded no bid contracts in iraq, and new orleans, and many other shady deals, not to mention he still collects paychecks from halliburton. they invested ALOT of money into this admin, and they are recieving enormous returns. not only does dick cheney work for Halliburton, so does every american soldier. that remains true if you want to admit it or not.
Not if that deferred comp. was guaranteed, regardless of Halliburton's performance.
Cheney bought an insurance policy that guaranteed a fixed amount of deferred payments from Halliburton each year for five years so that the payments would not depend on the company's fortunes.[3] He is legally bound by an agreement he signed which turns over power of attorney to a trust administrator to sell the options at some future time and to give the after-tax profits to three charities. The agreement specifies that 40% will go to the University of Wyoming (Cheney's home state), 40% will go to George Washington University's medical faculty to be used for tax-exempt charitable purposes, and 20% will go to Capital Partners for Education. The agreement states that it is "irrevocable and may not be terminated, waived or amended," preventing Cheney from taking back the options at a later date
These are his buddies, of course he is going to be loyal to them. Look at everything they have had literally handed to them by this administration and how they are screwing over the taxpayers, and nothing is being done about it
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-halliburton9sep09,0,5667570.story?coll=la-home-world
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Am I allowed to also look at everything other administrations have also handed Halliburton, such as Clinton's no-bid deals in the Balkans? Or must I only fixate on recent events?
:rolleyes:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/11/AR2006071101459_pf.html
Was there anyone in the administration DIRECTLY tied to the company getting the no bid contracts, (I know politics, and I am dreading your answer, because it's probably true)
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I hadn't heard that, however it was almost 3 1/2 years after the fact, Halliburton made their money
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Actually, it was almost 20 years after the fact. Halliburton was making money from LOGCAP since the early 90s.
Does that matter? I thought the problem was the no-bid contracts themselves?
A no bid contract is bad, yes. I think it's different though when the money is going directly into the pocket of the Vice President of the United States.
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But it's not. Did you read the posts above? Dick Cheney gets "deferred compensation" from an insurance policy, not from Halliburton.
seemed rather clear to me
Yes. I understand that. The perception and how ethical it is, is the problem. If you are getting paid by the taxpayers to be the Vice President of our nation, you should not be accepting money from anyone doing business with the government. I would think there would be some way for his deferred comp to be paid to him upon his exiting as the Vice President.
I don't blame the man for collecting from his former company, I just thing the perception of it while he is in office, is un-ethical
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either way he will still collect the money he earned while employed there. should he collect after he leaves office? ok fine. doesnt really matter
What would that accomplish? People would still be complaining because Dick Cheney would get that money?
Ok....but that's the purpose of the whole insurance/charity deal -- to eliminate the personal benefit tied to Halliburton's performance. I'm no fan of Dick Cheney, but it's not his fault that people ignore the facts here and invent kickback lies.
I agree, but back to the topic of the thread. Do you see a problem with Halliburton having contact with the nuclear programs in Iran?
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Not really, no. Should I?
How is that different than an American citizen pledging loyalty to al queda or the extremists in Iraq?
I'm curious, on why you view it as not a problem. I'm not judging, but YOU seem like an intelligent guy, I'd like to hear your reason.
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Ok. You can think that. Halliburton, however, might disagree. You're both entitled to your opinion.
It's not. However, once that American citizen actually starts killing me then it becomes different.
My reasoning is very simple: any business should have the right to sell whatever they wish to whomever wants it as long as the dealings are fair to both those parties. I have no interest in preventing the Iranians from having nuclear technologies. I have an interest in preventing the Iranians from killing me with those technologies. Preventing Halliburton from dealing with the Iranians isn't going to stop the Iranians from building a nuclear weapon.
I can go along with that. I do think the situation should be brought up when/if we end up going to war with Iran.
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Ok.
ok then...ok
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