Test nonlethal weapons on U.S. citizens, official says

El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
Sept. 13, 2006, 12:51AM
Test nonlethal weapons on U.S. citizens, official says
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/4182615.html

By LOLITA C. BALDOR
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.

Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions in the international community over any possible safety concerns, said Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne.

"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne.

"(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."

The Air Force has funded research into nonlethal weapons, but he said the service isn't likely to spend more money on development until injury issues are reviewed by medical experts and resolved.

Nonlethal weapons can weaken people if they are hit with the beam.

Some of the weapons can emit short, intense energy pulses that also disable some electronic devices.
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,871
    This is incredible that he should suggest that. You know who they'll use them on.........

    http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18725095.600

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  • You know things are bad when I stop being surprised hearing about this sort of stuff.....
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    read this earlier today... i think the Generals words tell us how our leaders feel about us

    fucking guinea pigs
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    enough of the wikipeida already. you know how to use google, I got it.


    but anyway, what the hell is this all about. I really dont get it.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    enough of the wikipeida already. you know how to use google, I got it.

    but anyway, what the hell is this all about. I really dont get it.

    Project X is top secret. National Security...."public good"....you know.

    But this might help:

    The government wants you to behave. And they're willing to force you to do so.
  • IamMineIamMine Posts: 2,743
    You know things are bad when I stop being surprised hearing about this sort of stuff.....

    Yeah, that's really sad!

    As if it isn't bad enough, consider people who carry a lot of electronic devices - in their pockets or purses (blackberry, cell phones, etc...), people in electronic wheelchairs, or people with cochlear implants.

    I've heard a story from a CI'er where she was sitting too close to a really heavy magnetic field (I forgot what it was though) and it caused her implant or processor to malfunction. One extreme case involved an austim cochlear implant child whose implant was moved to the back of his head.

    That's why I wouldn't risk walking through a metal detector even when I was told nothing would happen - with an expection of a few cases where they would wipe out programming in the processor (outer device attaching to inner device on the skull, the implant).

    I just can't imagine what would happen to me if I was to be part of that awful research...I would be terribly upset if they damaged my implant!!! :mad:

    Anyway... that was really a disturbing report, to say the least.

    sigh.
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  • you know this dude came and sat at my bar once, well not my bar,... the olive garden's bar,... but anyhow. he told me he worked for the gov't and that they were developing microwave weaponary. he said that they could pick a coordinate and fry someone from the inside out. of course, i thought he was crazy for that; and also because he was drinking knob creek straight up. but seriously, maybe he wasn't so full of shit.
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  • you know this dude came and sat at my bar once, well not my bar,... the olive garden's bar,... but anyhow. he told me he worked for the gov't and that they were developing microwave weaponary. he said that they could pick a coordinate and fry someone from the inside out. of course, i thought he was crazy for that; and also because he was drinking knob creek straight up. but seriously, maybe he wasn't so full of shit.

    Lesson learned...never go to the Olive Garden.
  • PickrPickr Posts: 161
    Lesson learned...never go to the Olive Garden.

    Seriously? Holy shit...I had no idea Olive Garden's had bars!
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  • Pickr wrote:
    Seriously? Holy shit...I had no idea Olive Garden's had bars!

    Tell me about it. I had no idea people still went to the Olive Garden!

    Good breadsticks though...........
  • yeah, the olive garden i work at has been paying my way through school since sophomore year. i also have pretty good benefits. and our olive garden has a bar, where i bartend, that seats about 25 people. come in and leave a good tip. yeah,... just don't talk about cooking people from within.
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  • Pickr wrote:
    Seriously? Holy shit...I had no idea Olive Garden's had bars!

    Yes, they do... but unfortunately they are full of crazy government employees who want to microwave other people. Scary stuff...
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  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    here's a military site on someof the weapons
    http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/cst/occppr11.htm

    “Although not primarily an anti-personnel device, those who have been exposed to HPM report that its effect is agonizing. The radiation penetrates below the skin, boiling nerve cells. It can blind. It induces uncontrollable panic (early research into HPM was as a crowd-control agent, and it can be used mounted on a humvee to scatter civilians by inflicting intense heat onto their skins.)
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,896930,00.html


    Although the Pentagon says it prefers not to use experimental weapons on the battlefield, “the world intervenes from time to time,” Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld says. “And you reach in there and take something out that is still in a developmental stage, and you might use it.”
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
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