wal-mart; better than slavery

flywallyfly

cincybearcat wrote:

Umm....I do shop at Target. I just bought some storage totes there...Am I going to hell?

The eight ball says ...... You're going to shopping hell. It's like the day after Christmas sale run continuously for eternity. Watch out for the middle aged women -- they kick.

melodious

PaperPlates wrote:

Me thinks melodious ran out of weed or something. Got the "crabbies".

me thinks you may be absolutely right on the money....extremely crabby

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i wouldn't know why....

denverfan

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

yeah, yeah....:D

perhaps if more people become aware of walmart's policies then less people would want them around...just a thought. if a person found out their significant other was cheating then they might decide to give them the boot. I guess i'm not as apathetic as you are.

People keep saying..Their policies are shitty etc. etc. etc..but again, I walk into this store that just opend (it's a "green walmart") and all the workers are just standing around doing nothing? No work taking place...Getting paid to stand around and bull shit? I suppose they may have shitty policies, but I never see it in person is all

JaneNY

flywallyfly wrote:

Target runs cool hip advertising. Plus they have that dog with the red patch around his eye. WalMart has that stupid smiley ball lowering prices as he gets wage concessions from China. I'm going with the kickass dog. Target wins. Yay !!!

I think your point is that Target isn't really better than Wal-Mart. I don't know enough to say it is or it isn't. But my thought is that there must be other business out there to compete with Wal-Mart. The less competition Wal-Mart has, the more it has free rein to do what it wants. It *isn't* always the best price. We have stopped shopping there, but my kids several years ago noticed that the Pokemon and Yugioh cards were more expensive at Wal-Mart than in the local game store in our town. (Whatever opinion you have on Pokemon and Yugioh in general is beside the point hehe) Wal-Mart tends to low-price certain items that people will remember, that will give them the impression that *everything* is a bargain when its not.

Cincy is right that most people seem to want it. (Wal-Mart I mean). There was quite a fight in our town to get one - it is really going to change the character of our town, but the majority wanted it. So we are going to get one of those ugly Supercenters built just as you approach town, and there are ALREADY lots of petitions to set up strip-malls around it. Its really going to change the look of the entry into our town. I didn't support it, and will not shop there, but more people wanted it than not. I hope they like working there when the other stores they work at go under....

know1

Wal-Mart is not perfect, but it conducts its business better than the majority. In addition, it has provided jobs for many, many people and does a lot of charity work. If I remember, Wal-Mart was one of the big heros from the Hurricane Katrina fiasco.

Byrnzie

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/job.jpg

El_Kabong

Byrnzie wrote:

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/job.jpg

hey, man...w/o those outsourced jobs those ppl...well... that's 13 cents they wouldn't have at the end of the week! (thanks kindly to the multi-billion $ corporations)

chopitdown

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

perhaps if more people become aware of walmart's policies then less people would want them around...just a thought. .

the thing is wal-mart used to be a great place for people to work...then Sam died and everything became about the bottom line and not about workers at all. If most companies could adopt an employee friendly atmosphere they'd prob do better. Here's a snippet about Costco (similar to Sams Club)...

And Sinegal (CEO) says he's also built a loyal work force. In fact, Costco has the lowest employee turnover rate in retailing. Its turnover is five times lower than its chief rival, Wal-Mart. And Costco pays higher than average wages — $17 an hour — 40 percent more than Sam's Club, the warehouse chain owned by Wal-Mart. And it offers better-than-average benefits, including health care coverage to more than 90 percent of its work force.

And Sinegal rewards that loyalty. "We promote almost 100 percent from within our company.
But the most remarkable thing about Sinegal is his salary — $350,000 a year,

Of course, as a co-founder of the company, Sinegal owns a lot of Costco's stock — more than $150 million worth. He's rich, but only on paper.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Business/story?id=1362779

melodious

have you ever felt like you were criminal when shopping at walmart? i mean they have every item magnetized so that when a person inadvertantly goes out the door without paying, buzzer goes off....that's not enough, security...they use their greeting personnell to check your bags even though security measures are already in place. and at my local walmart, where i might add, i cried when they tore out old oak growth, they makes certain to focus their security towards under-18 and minorities..

melodious

El_Kabong wrote:

hey, man...w/o those outsourced jobs those ppl...well... that's 13 cents they wouldn't have at the end of the week! (thanks kindly to the multi-billion $ corporations)

just curious, but how does one feel about little guy who is not corporation, but guides business practices in same manner as walmart--uh, i mean the guy has a factory in china but lives with his wife and child in seattle ? just curious...

melodious

know1 wrote:

Wal-Mart is not perfect, but it conducts its business better than the majority. In addition, it has provided jobs for many, many people and does a lot of charity work. If I remember, Wal-Mart was one of the big heros from the Hurricane Katrina fiasco.

not that i always agree with you know1, but it's nice to come across your path....;) .

Byrnzie

El_Kabong wrote:

hey, man...w/o those outsourced jobs those ppl...well... that's 13 cents they wouldn't have at the end of the week! (thanks kindly to the multi-billion $ corporations)

That's right. 13 cents goes a long way in the slums of Mexico. You can buy a cardboard box to live in with that. Thank god all those hardworking Americans spent all those years working to make these companies so big and profitable that they could afford the air fare to go south of the border.

tybird

melodious wrote:

have you ever felt like you were criminal when shopping at walmart? i mean they have every item magnetized so that when a person inadvertantly goes out the door without paying, buzzer goes off....that's not enough, security...they use their greeting personnell to check your bags even though security measures are already in place. and at my local walmart, where i might add, i cried when they tore out old oak growth, they makes certain to focus their security towards under-18 and minorities..

Yes, yes............I refer to their greet personel as the "door nazis." Corporate paranoia????

decides2dream

JaneNY wrote:

I think your point is that Target isn't really better than Wal-Mart. I don't know enough to say it is or it isn't. But my thought is that there must be other business out there to compete with Wal-Mart. The less competition Wal-Mart has, the more it has free rein to do what it wants. It *isn't* always the best price. We have stopped shopping there, but my kids several years ago noticed that the Pokemon and Yugioh cards were more expensive at Wal-Mart than in the local game store in our town. (Whatever opinion you have on Pokemon and Yugioh in general is beside the point hehe) Wal-Mart tends to low-price certain items that people will remember, that will give them the impression that *everything* is a bargain when its not.

Cincy is right that most people seem to want it. (Wal-Mart I mean). There was quite a fight in our town to get one - it is really going to change the character of our town, but the majority wanted it. So we are going to get one of those ugly Supercenters built just as you approach town, and there are ALREADY lots of petitions to set up strip-malls around it. Its really going to change the look of the entry into our town. I didn't support it, and will not shop there, but more people wanted it than not. I hope they like working there when the other stores they work at go under....

well said.
i have never set foot in a wal-mart. up until about 2 years ago? there wasn't even one remotely nearby...i think there was one wal-mart on all of long island...and it was way out east...so yea, never been. saw em once or twice during travels, never had a need/desire to stop in one. nowadays, all i hear are horrid things about the place...and sure, we had a target open near us first. haha. i like target.

what about kmart? are they on par? same thing as wal-mart, we never had any around. then one did open - before target - i checked it out once or twice...my husband bought a few things there time to time, but we didn't really care for it. i assume most of our area didn't either, b/c it did close.

so sure, i am curious how do these other 2 fit within? are they just as bad? the lesser of two evils? or relatively 'ok' as far as big retail corps go? i've never really read/heard much about either...only about wal-mart.

farfromglorified

I would hope not one person here shops at or works for Wal-Mart.

And I would hope no one here is supporting any laws that force anyone to shop at or work at Wal-Mart.

know1

melodious wrote:

not that i always agree with you know1, but it's nice to come across your path....;) .

Thanks! That's sweet.

El_Kabong

decides2dream wrote:

well said.
i have never set foot in a wal-mart. up until about 2 years ago? there wasn't even one remotely nearby...i think there was one wal-mart on all of long island...and it was way out east...so yea, never been. saw em once or twice during travels, never had a need/desire to stop in one. nowadays, all i hear are horrid things about the place...and sure, we had a target open near us first. haha. i like target.

what about kmart? are they on par? same thing as wal-mart, we never had any around. then one did open - before target - i checked it out once or twice...my husband bought a few things there time to time, but we didn't really care for it. i assume most of our area didn't either, b/c it did close.

so sure, i am curious how do these other 2 fit within? are they just as bad? the lesser of two evils? or relatively 'ok' as far as big retail corps go? i've never really read/heard much about either...only about wal-mart.

didn't k-mart get caught a decade or so ago overcharing ppl a few cents? i was a kid when it happened...it doesn't seem like much to be overcharged a few cents but for a big company like that it adds up to a whole lot at the end of the year. anyway, i thought they went bankrupt? i haven't seen one in ages

tybird

El_Kabong wrote:

didn't k-mart get caught a decade or so ago overcharing ppl a few cents? i was a kid when it happened...it doesn't seem like much to be overcharged a few cents but for a big company like that it adds up to a whole lot at the end of the year. anyway, i thought they went bankrupt? i haven't seen one in ages

They ended up merging with Sears. I do believe that they did file for bankruptcy.

As to the overcharging scam, I don't remember hearing about it.

decides2dream

El_Kabong wrote:

didn't k-mart get caught a decade or so ago overcharing ppl a few cents? i was a kid when it happened...it doesn't seem like much to be overcharged a few cents but for a big company like that it adds up to a whole lot at the end of the year. anyway, i thought they went bankrupt? i haven't seen one in ages

oh is that what happened? interesting. as i said, they never had any real presence in my area, or wal-mart. although as i mentioned, we do have one now. however, what about target? i like target..i hope they are not evil-corporate types.

farfromglorified

decides2dream wrote:

oh is that what happened? interesting. as i said, they never had any real presence in my area, or wal-mart. although as i mentioned, we do have one now. however, what about target? i like target..i hope they are not evil-corporate types.

If you're a big fan of workers unionizing and not a big fan of companies that actively try to prevent them from unionizing, Target is not for you.